I can't tell if my 2016 SL is pretending to shift. It seemed like it at one point, but it's hard to tell. I'm not through the break in period so I'm not gunning it just yet.
Does anyone know if Nissan put the faux shifts into the Murano? God I hope not.
I thought I read in another thread in this forum about Nissan programing "fake" shifting with the CVT transmissons. I think the poster provided a link to an article about it.
Sorry man....just to lazy to do a search right now but it's in another transmission thread somewhere around here.
Most people don't know how a CVT is supposed to work, and a few of them think their tranny isn't working if it doesn't shift. More than one manufacturer has added artificial "shifts" to provide a more familiar feel to drivers.
It is kind of cool that a CVT can be programmed with pre-set drive ratio steps pretty much any way that the manufacturer decides.
You know what would be even cooler? If there was a button that said "If your dumb and don't understand your CVT transmission, push here"". That way the rest of us could take maximum advantage of the technology.
Yes, you can. The TCM will learn your driving habits over time. Drive more aggressively and it will remember that, drive very slowly and it remembers that.
I drive my Murano in manual mode at least a couple times a week to keep the throttle response sharp.
Anyway, hope this helps:
You can force the simulated shifting by manipulating the gear shifter in "sport mode" or whatever Nissan calls it. No paddles, but it's something. Don't really see the point of trying to avoid the shifts. Buy a used Nissan Rogue (buy my wife's POS 2009) if you want that miserable, 1 gear droning experience.
Wow. I never would have guessed. I don't consider it to be sound logic to overlay manual mode driving learning in the mapping that is developed for non-manual mode. That really makes no sense at all and sounds like lazy programming.
Not sure I agree with the "faux shifting" terminology , its physically changing ratios (though using an entirely different method to achieve said ratios) so technically it is shifting. When it does shift it also feels crisper than that 6 speed Santa Fe Sport 2.0 turbo I drove last year.
I dunno....I never thought I'd say this a year or two ago but I like this CVT and the way it behaves.
I agree 100%! I was very leery about the CVT in the Murano as I love the "shifting" of my Infiniti, but it shifts/feels great! I drove the Acura RDX before we bought the Murano and it shifted very abruptly.
Anyway, everyone should play with the "manual" mode and it does help with increasing throttle response which is lacking in today's vehicles due to MPG priorities.
Just a reminder - it's not a truck, so don't try to use it like one, especially going off-road. It's essentially a Nissan Altima with a crossover body on top. The drivetrain is a passenger car drivetrain.
It was poor proof reading more than anything. That's (as in, that is) what I get for typing posts on my phone.
Having said that, if it bothers you when others make grammar mistakes, you may want to avoid the internet. It's kinda (slang for kind of) like be bothered by women that wear bikini's while sitting on a beach.
Mine appears to “shift” at 4,000 rpm - wish I could disable this...I liked the gen 2 that just went up and down smoothly with out the pseudo-shift to spill my beverage :laugh:
Nothing is perfect. Some like it some don't. I like the simulated shifts a lot but I don't like the CVT trying to maintain 1,000 RPM at moderate speeds. Also when coming to a stop, a whining noise appears as if braking using engine compression; I can hear it and I can feel it! The noise is even worse in reverse as I reported in another thread. None of this on my previous 2014. I've learned to live with it.
In a perfect world, a blend of gen 2 and gen 3 CVT would be ideal. Add a selector switch for normal CVT, d-step logic and 7 speed simulated shifts at all pedal positions like a regular automatic. Also, add another switch for Sport, Normal and Econ and everybody would be happy! I'll keep on dreamin' as I'm sure it ain't gonna happen any time soon...
In a perfect world, a blend of gen 2 and gen 3 CVT would be ideal. Add a selector switch for normal CVT, d-step logic and 7 speed simulated shifts at all pedal positions like a regular automatic. Also, add another switch for Sport, Normal and Econ and everybody would be happy! I'll keep on dreamin' as I'm sure it ain't gonna happen any time soon...
That's a good idea, but probably the Murano is the wrong audience for it. I really like the way my wife's BMW 3-series automatic's sport mode shifting works. It hangs onto gears longer before up-shifting, stays a gear lower than it would in normal Drive mode, and even shifts down while coming up to a stop. That plus the steering wheel paddle shifters give me much better control of the driving experience. There's no reason all of that couldn't be done with a CVT...but a vanishingly small number of Murano drivers would ever use it.
Absolutely! That's why I sold the Murano. It was great for about 3 years, then I wanted gears again, and the transfer case grenaded on me, giving me the perfect excuse to fix it and sell it.
But I do like the fact that a CVT can be programmed to mimic gears in various ways, including giving the driver ability to "shift down" (select a different drive ratio). If I ever own another CVT, I'd love for it to have at least six steps programmed into it, plus shifting paddles and a sport mode.