Split From Inconsistant forum rules by Enforcer - Nissan Murano

GripperDon · 07-17-2006, 10:57 PM

I am not involved in the discussion in any way, if I was I would have PM'ed as requested. However since the number of reads is so large I had a question that a large audiance might be the best to answer.

I have noticed in the last two days that the forum board seems sluggish, slow to come up and update, the other site forums I am on are acting OK. Are there any more problems with the server or whatever it is?

Or is it just me?

Enforcer · 07-17-2006, 11:01 PM

Not from Oxnard Ca Don. Amazingly quick on this hotel link. Course I think the site is hosted near here. Try a tracert and ping or one of the automated proggies they have now. Could be a link somewhere is having problems.

GripperDon · 07-17-2006, 11:06 PM

But I am glad it's OK.

Enforcer · 07-17-2006, 11:23 PM

oh its easy just open a command prompt window in xp its start-programs-accessories-command prompt. Type in "tracert www.nissanmurano.org".

It will list all the IP nodes/routers between you and the site, and a relative ping time to each. Then you can ping each one individually like "ping 127.0.0.1". You can also put a -t on the end to ping continuously. You can also use a redirect to save the ping results to a file. Comes in handy to send to ISPs to help them track down problems. A no-reply in a ping is a dropped packet.

**njjoe** · 07-17-2006, 11:44 PM

Enforcer-

I concur with Don's assessment. The forum has been relatively slow today.

I did what you said and used the "tracert www.nissanmurano.org" command. From Southern New Jersey it showed 24 hops, with the shortest time listed as 1ms and the longest 229ms. In your opinion is this good or bad (I have no clue)?

Thanx in advance.

-njjoe

GripperDon · 07-18-2006, 12:06 AM

I got 15 hops mostly 1ms and a few at 6 and 7ms and the forum seemed just fine now, Maybe it just needed to be jogged a bit. Let it know we are checking on it.

Enforcer · 07-18-2006, 12:09 AM

Well yeah I think thats pretty decent for that many hops. From here I've got 14 hops and 113ms average. The key is to make sure no one node is contributing much more than the others. The faster the link the lower the ping. If on DSL or cable your first hop would be in the <10ms range. If on dialup your first hop may be in the 100-200ms range. There also used to be a site for monitoring the "health" of the internet. Lemme see if I can find that.

Enforcer · 07-18-2006, 12:26 AM

lol well believe it or not...I have actually had success on getting windows to relearn its arp doing pings, but in this case naaa

. Routers sometimes have many connections to them and they will load balance and learn new less crowded and faster routes to send packets. You may notice for example the tracert list will change between the morning and midnight. THis is normal, those routers are doing what they should be doing. But your httping is sending enough packets for them to do that without the icmp pings and stuff. icmp is given the lowest priority on routers but still usefull for diagnostics cause if the router doesn't have time to service the little stuff then its a good bet its working pretty hard. new routers have been harded against icmp dos attacks and there is an etiquette to pinging. A few default packet size pings are cool nobody takes notice. And sometimes you will find routes or sites that reject any icmp. Still, handy tools when used appropriately.

Here are a couple internet health monitoring sites:
http://www.internetpulse.net/
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/

07-17-2006, 10:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
GripperDon Mr. 3 K, 3/3/5. 5K,10/5/7 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PB5-926 Posts: 5,077	Not a response But a question I am not involved in the discussion in any way, if I was I would have PM'ed as requested. However since the number of reads is so large I had a question that a large audiance might be the best to answer. I have noticed in the last two days that the forum board seems sluggish, slow to come up and update, the other site forums I am on are acting OK. Are there any more problems with the server or whatever it is? Or is it just me? __________________ Previous Owner of, The Mod Mo, 05, SL, FWD, Platinum, Charcoal Leather, Touring, Technology Pkgs., TPMS etc. Chrome Wheels, Roof Rack Bbars. Cargo Protector. Extended Warranty, X-Tire, AutoMate. Leatherique treated leather. Diamond Window Tint, Tires 3 step balanced. Stainless Steel Laser Cut Grill. Glass VIN etch, Debadged. Silver Painted Calipers. 1300F Ceramic painted Muffler. B-Quite Supreme, sound matting. External Sound ndercoated. White Led Parking Lights. Led Front Door Entrance Lights. Yellow Ion Fogs. Silver-Amber Front Turn Signals. Hella 100 Watt @ 5000K Driving Lights. SAT receiver–Delphi XM Roady2 Hidden Antenna install. Fan cooled Inverter AC to Xbox. MTX 200 watt auto on Amp deciated power to Bose Sub Woofer. PAC-Niss dual aux in for Sat and X Box audio. Generator Labs NoNag modded Rear Camera. “NAV Box" W/Modded X Box X2 Chip. DVD’s, MP3 & JPEG pics ,160 gig HD / Wireless Lynksis 802.11G Ethernet link. Runs Xbox Media Center. rear Bumper Protector. Selectable Horns: OEM MO/WoLo air. Tinted Tails-Bright bulbs. Tweeters tilted + 19uf mod. Lower Grill Stone Shield. Front Floor Amber Courtesy Lights. Chrome over Stainless Rocker Bars. Wireless LED Turn Signal Mirrors. Top mounted Led Stop Light modded with The backoff.

07-17-2006, 11:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
Enforcer Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Huntspatch, Alabama Posts: 2,065	Not from Oxnard Ca Don. Amazingly quick on this hotel link. Course I think the site is hosted near here. Try a tracert and ping or one of the automated proggies they have now. Could be a link somewhere is having problems. __________________ Click Here For More Info.

07-17-2006, 11:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
GripperDon Mr. 3 K, 3/3/5. 5K,10/5/7 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PB5-926 Posts: 5,077	ok thanks I really don't know how to do that But I am glad it's OK. __________________ Previous Owner of, The Mod Mo, 05, SL, FWD, Platinum, Charcoal Leather, Touring, Technology Pkgs., TPMS etc. Chrome Wheels, Roof Rack Bbars. Cargo Protector. Extended Warranty, X-Tire, AutoMate. Leatherique treated leather. Diamond Window Tint, Tires 3 step balanced. Stainless Steel Laser Cut Grill. Glass VIN etch, Debadged. Silver Painted Calipers. 1300F Ceramic painted Muffler. B-Quite Supreme, sound matting. External Sound ndercoated. White Led Parking Lights. Led Front Door Entrance Lights. Yellow Ion Fogs. Silver-Amber Front Turn Signals. Hella 100 Watt @ 5000K Driving Lights. SAT receiver–Delphi XM Roady2 Hidden Antenna install. Fan cooled Inverter AC to Xbox. MTX 200 watt auto on Amp deciated power to Bose Sub Woofer. PAC-Niss dual aux in for Sat and X Box audio. Generator Labs NoNag modded Rear Camera. “NAV Box" W/Modded X Box X2 Chip. DVD’s, MP3 & JPEG pics ,160 gig HD / Wireless Lynksis 802.11G Ethernet link. Runs Xbox Media Center. rear Bumper Protector. Selectable Horns: OEM MO/WoLo air. Tinted Tails-Bright bulbs. Tweeters tilted + 19uf mod. Lower Grill Stone Shield. Front Floor Amber Courtesy Lights. Chrome over Stainless Rocker Bars. Wireless LED Turn Signal Mirrors. Top mounted Led Stop Light modded with The backoff.

07-17-2006, 11:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
Enforcer Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Huntspatch, Alabama Posts: 2,065	oh its easy just open a command prompt window in xp its start-programs-accessories-command prompt. Type in "tracert www.nissanmurano.org". It will list all the IP nodes/routers between you and the site, and a relative ping time to each. Then you can ping each one individually like "ping 127.0.0.1". You can also put a -t on the end to ping continuously. You can also use a redirect to save the ping results to a file. Comes in handy to send to ISPs to help them track down problems. A no-reply in a ping is a dropped packet. __________________ Click Here For More Info.

07-17-2006, 11:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
njjoe Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jersey Shore (not THAT Jersey Shore, the real one) Posts: 11,719	Enforcer- I concur with Don's assessment. The forum has been relatively slow today. I did what you said and used the "tracert www.nissanmurano.org" command. From Southern New Jersey it showed 24 hops, with the shortest time listed as 1ms and the longest 229ms. In your opinion is this good or bad (I have no clue)? Thanx in advance. -njjoe __________________ 2005 SL AWD, Platinum -OEM HID conversion & HID fogs -OEM iPod interface -Upgraded (non-Bose) speakers - Pioneer TS-A1702C & TS-G1643R -Muth signal mirrors -Valley Industries hitch and wiring harness -Aluminum fuel tank shields

07-18-2006, 12:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
GripperDon Mr. 3 K, 3/3/5. 5K,10/5/7 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PB5-926 Posts: 5,077	Thanks I did it. I got 15 hops mostly 1ms and a few at 6 and 7ms and the forum seemed just fine now, Maybe it just needed to be jogged a bit. Let it know we are checking on it. __________________ Previous Owner of, The Mod Mo, 05, SL, FWD, Platinum, Charcoal Leather, Touring, Technology Pkgs., TPMS etc. Chrome Wheels, Roof Rack Bbars. Cargo Protector. Extended Warranty, X-Tire, AutoMate. Leatherique treated leather. Diamond Window Tint, Tires 3 step balanced. Stainless Steel Laser Cut Grill. Glass VIN etch, Debadged. Silver Painted Calipers. 1300F Ceramic painted Muffler. B-Quite Supreme, sound matting. External Sound ndercoated. White Led Parking Lights. Led Front Door Entrance Lights. Yellow Ion Fogs. Silver-Amber Front Turn Signals. Hella 100 Watt @ 5000K Driving Lights. SAT receiver–Delphi XM Roady2 Hidden Antenna install. Fan cooled Inverter AC to Xbox. MTX 200 watt auto on Amp deciated power to Bose Sub Woofer. PAC-Niss dual aux in for Sat and X Box audio. Generator Labs NoNag modded Rear Camera. “NAV Box" W/Modded X Box X2 Chip. DVD’s, MP3 & JPEG pics ,160 gig HD / Wireless Lynksis 802.11G Ethernet link. Runs Xbox Media Center. rear Bumper Protector. Selectable Horns: OEM MO/WoLo air. Tinted Tails-Bright bulbs. Tweeters tilted + 19uf mod. Lower Grill Stone Shield. Front Floor Amber Courtesy Lights. Chrome over Stainless Rocker Bars. Wireless LED Turn Signal Mirrors. Top mounted Led Stop Light modded with The backoff.

07-18-2006, 12:09 AM	#7 (permalink)
Enforcer Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Huntspatch, Alabama Posts: 2,065	Well yeah I think thats pretty decent for that many hops. From here I've got 14 hops and 113ms average. The key is to make sure no one node is contributing much more than the others. The faster the link the lower the ping. If on DSL or cable your first hop would be in the <10ms range. If on dialup your first hop may be in the 100-200ms range. There also used to be a site for monitoring the "health" of the internet. Lemme see if I can find that. __________________ Click Here For More Info.

07-18-2006, 12:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
Enforcer Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Huntspatch, Alabama Posts: 2,065	lol well believe it or not...I have actually had success on getting windows to relearn its arp doing pings, but in this case naaa . Routers sometimes have many connections to them and they will load balance and learn new less crowded and faster routes to send packets. You may notice for example the tracert list will change between the morning and midnight. THis is normal, those routers are doing what they should be doing. But your httping is sending enough packets for them to do that without the icmp pings and stuff. icmp is given the lowest priority on routers but still usefull for diagnostics cause if the router doesn't have time to service the little stuff then its a good bet its working pretty hard. new routers have been harded against icmp dos attacks and there is an etiquette to pinging. A few default packet size pings are cool nobody takes notice. And sometimes you will find routes or sites that reject any icmp. Still, handy tools when used appropriately. Here are a couple internet health monitoring sites: http://www.internetpulse.net/ http://www.internettrafficreport.com/ __________________ Click Here For More Info.

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