Clay Bar - Nissan Murano

**Gonzo** · 09-15-2004, 12:16 PM

I was a bit unsure but I purchased and tired a clay bar on the MO. Having a Black MO I'm always nervouse about anything more than necessary rubbing on the finish.

I tried the clay bar and I must say it worked great! Smmooooth finish and got loads of stuff off. After I did the bar I put on a lovely coat of wax... and boy is she all shinney now.

SIM · 09-15-2004, 07:00 PM

Yeah, I did the Zaino gig a few times already. It takes a while but my MO always look wet now and I catch most people staring at all kinds of reflections in this incredible finish.

It's almost unreal if you do it right. Dawn...claybar...lubricant...Dawn...Z-5...Z-6...Z-5...Z-6...Z-2...Z-6...Z-2...Z-6

And of course, don't forget Z-7 and Z-16 as well as a good supply of fresh beer and laughs with friends in doing so...

**Gonzo** · 09-15-2004, 11:08 PM

I've never tried Zaino but I always hear folks talking about it in this forum. Does it last or is it something that you need to perform often? I typically wax about 3-4x per year.

Mr3Putt · 09-16-2004, 09:25 AM

Gonzo,

So far it has been very long lasting. After the initial PITA claybar prep, it seems to be the easiest to maintain finish.

Frobozz · 09-16-2004, 10:37 AM

After two washings, a claybar scrub and *eight* coats of various pricey products, that car damn well better sing and dance to me. I don't think that's even remotely realistic for most folks.

I wonder how Zano works when it's applied the way most people apply wax: Wash the car, apply a coat?

**Gonzo** · 09-16-2004, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Frobozz
After two washings, a claybar scrub and *eight* coats of various pricey products, that car damn well better sing and dance to me. I don't think that's even remotely realistic for most folks.

I wonder how Zano works when it's applied the way most people apply wax: Wash the car, apply a coat?

I wonder that too.... I wonder if they car is "reshapped" after all that rubbing. I think my MO looks different after my last wax... I put a lot of elbow grease into it. What do you think?

Himself · 09-16-2004, 01:27 PM

Will a clay bar remove water spots from glass? If not what is the best way to remove them?

hfelknor · 09-16-2004, 03:01 PM

Zaino sux.

That's all you need to know.

Of course you could spend a couple of bucks buying the report from
www.gurureports.org
and find out what ALL the waxes do, but most people won't do that, because most people aren't that serious about keeping their car in top shape anyway.

"Now come on, Homer, is it really any good?"

Look, if it was good, and I told you, then everybody would use it and everybody would have a Murano that looked like a show car and then I wouldn't have anything special.
In addition they would have a car that only needed "waxing" twice a year and one that had an anti static component to cut down on dust, and also had a UV filter rated at SPF 40 to keep your paint from fading. They would have a "wax" that was made out of the same stuff their "paint" was made of (A synthetic Polymer) that would bond to their "paint" and not come off just because you used a car wash like that Carnauba stuff does.

But I will pass on one tip.
For those who just want their car to look pretty good, without much expense or without much effort, a 1/4 stick of butter liberally applied does look *****in. (And for a really top rated shine........I can't believe it's not butter is the BEST!)

Call Sal Zaino. (You can, you know. On the other hand you really can't call Barry MeGuier. And no, you really can't call Mother to ask about her wax.)
His number is on his site
www.zainobros.com

But, don't listen to the Zaino Fanatics. They all own a part of the company and are trying to personally achieve wealth at your expense. They have no sense of community that would influence their recommendations. They have never won the many Concours events they claim to have won, they have never witnessed this Corvette magazine that is rumored to have selected Zaino as #1
And they most certainly wouldn't give you the straight story on what is in The Guru Report on waxes.

So take my advice. Check out that butter trick.

Zaino sux.

Homer

hfelknor · 09-16-2004, 03:04 PM

I know that a claybar will take Water spots off of paint.
I don't know about taking them off glass.
I do know that most water spots can be taken off of drinking glasses by using White Vinegar.
But if it is heavily etched I would suspect that you would need a glass polish.

Homer

SIM · 09-16-2004, 04:04 PM

Homer,

I would never give up the well-kept Z-12 secret for the water spots on glass...

**zebelkhan** · 09-16-2004, 06:21 PM

I liked your writeup on Zaino so much I am switching!

Go Zaino!!!!!!!!!

pcs15394 · 09-17-2004, 03:43 AM

I am now perplexed - I was willing to take the leap to Zaino although I think the Klasse products I have been using have done pretty well, but to think I could have saved all that money and just grabbed some Land O Lakes out of the Fridge.

Homer as usual you had me ROFL.

GripperDon · 09-17-2004, 04:25 PM

Just got the Muellers Mother clay bar kit. WOW is that great, paint feels like clean glass and looks great.

beemer-biker · 09-23-2004, 10:39 AM

Ok, since I have never used a clay bar, what are the advantages? What is it supposed to accomplish? I keep reading about all the good things it does, but I am not sure of all it does.
It also seems like a lot of work to apply. Does it have to be wiped off after applying, like wax? Or, does it come off as you put it on?
TIA

GripperDon · 09-23-2004, 12:09 PM

The lubricant makes rubbing the clay bar just like wiping a wet rag across the paint. There is no clay to wipe off only the dried lubricant that is a light wipe. You can do the whole MO in about 40 minutes.

Follow up with cleaning wax and then past wax. I did my black SLK as well and it glistnes.

09-15-2004, 12:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gonzo Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 4,092	Clay Bar I was a bit unsure but I purchased and tired a clay bar on the MO. Having a Black MO I'm always nervouse about anything more than necessary rubbing on the finish. I tried the clay bar and I must say it worked great! Smmooooth finish and got loads of stuff off. After I did the bar I put on a lovely coat of wax... and boy is she all shinney now.

09-15-2004, 07:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
SIM Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Laval, Canada Posts: 745	Yeah, I did the Zaino gig a few times already. It takes a while but my MO always look wet now and I catch most people staring at all kinds of reflections in this incredible finish. It's almost unreal if you do it right. Dawn...claybar...lubricant...Dawn...Z-5...Z-6...Z-5...Z-6...Z-2...Z-6...Z-2...Z-6 And of course, don't forget Z-7 and Z-16 as well as a good supply of fresh beer and laughs with friends in doing so... __________________ Murano SL AWD '07 Silver chrome/charcoal w/sunroof (everything but Nav & leather) Motorola IHF1000 Bluetooth car kit with cell mute for Bose OEM Nissan iPod interface Cloud-Rider lower grill XPel everywhere Infinity Kappa (4 doors + tweeters), Infinity Basslink T sub Garmin Nuvi 350 GPS Aftermarket Code Alarm CA670 with remote start and Flashlogic PK03 (security bypass) & NISDL (door locks & OEM alarm trigger) Saris Talon 59" load bars with Thule Big Mouth bicycle racks Curt hitch with homemade harness Performance exhaust sound only; Yeah, it sounds like a Z but performs like a 4000 pounds MO!

09-16-2004, 09:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mr3Putt Super Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,569	Gonzo, So far it has been very long lasting. After the initial PITA claybar prep, it seems to be the easiest to maintain finish. __________________ Former owner of ~~~~> Black O3 SE AWD

09-16-2004, 01:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
Himself Super Secret Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 31	Will a clay bar remove water spots from glass? If not what is the best way to remove them? __________________ 2003 balck on black SE with all the fixins

09-16-2004, 03:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
hfelknor Super Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southwest Florida Posts: 3,281	Zaino sux. That's all you need to know. Of course you could spend a couple of bucks buying the report from www.gurureports.org and find out what ALL the waxes do, but most people won't do that, because most people aren't that serious about keeping their car in top shape anyway. "Now come on, Homer, is it really any good?" Look, if it was good, and I told you, then everybody would use it and everybody would have a Murano that looked like a show car and then I wouldn't have anything special. In addition they would have a car that only needed "waxing" twice a year and one that had an anti static component to cut down on dust, and also had a UV filter rated at SPF 40 to keep your paint from fading. They would have a "wax" that was made out of the same stuff their "paint" was made of (A synthetic Polymer) that would bond to their "paint" and not come off just because you used a car wash like that Carnauba stuff does. But I will pass on one tip. For those who just want their car to look pretty good, without much expense or without much effort, a 1/4 stick of butter liberally applied does look *****in. (And for a really top rated shine........I can't believe it's not butter is the BEST!) Call Sal Zaino. (You can, you know. On the other hand you really can't call Barry MeGuier. And no, you really can't call Mother to ask about her wax.) His number is on his site www.zainobros.com But, don't listen to the Zaino Fanatics. They all own a part of the company and are trying to personally achieve wealth at your expense. They have no sense of community that would influence their recommendations. They have never won the many Concours events they claim to have won, they have never witnessed this Corvette magazine that is rumored to have selected Zaino as #1 And they most certainly wouldn't give you the straight story on what is in The Guru Report on waxes. So take my advice. Check out that butter trick. Zaino sux. Homer __________________ 2001 Jaguar XJ8 Cruiser 2004 ThunderBird 2 passenger Runabout HAD The GOLD RUSH until Nov 6 2009 2003 Gold SLFWD with Premium, Sunroof, Latte Leather, Ultrashield Invisible Bra, Sunroof wind deflector, Aluminum Tank Guard, Chrome Wheels by Ion Alloy, Michelin 235/65-18 Cross Terrains, Garmin Nuvi 2008 Cadillac Gold Mist DTS LUX III - Gone! 2010 Mercedes Benz GLK 350 - Gone! "Didja ever notice that quiet people are not the only ones who don't say much?"

09-15-2004, 11:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gonzo Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 4,092	I've never tried Zaino but I always hear folks talking about it in this forum. Does it last or is it something that you need to perform often? I typically wax about 3-4x per year.

09-16-2004, 10:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
Frobozz Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 30	After two washings, a claybar scrub and eight coats of various pricey products, that car damn well better sing and dance to me. I don't think that's even remotely realistic for most folks. I wonder how Zano works when it's applied the way most people apply wax: Wash the car, apply a coat?

09-16-2004, 03:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
hfelknor Super Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southwest Florida Posts: 3,281	Himself I know that a claybar will take Water spots off of paint. I don't know about taking them off glass. I do know that most water spots can be taken off of drinking glasses by using White Vinegar. But if it is heavily etched I would suspect that you would need a glass polish. Homer __________________ 2001 Jaguar XJ8 Cruiser 2004 ThunderBird 2 passenger Runabout HAD The GOLD RUSH until Nov 6 2009 2003 Gold SLFWD with Premium, Sunroof, Latte Leather, Ultrashield Invisible Bra, Sunroof wind deflector, Aluminum Tank Guard, Chrome Wheels by Ion Alloy, Michelin 235/65-18 Cross Terrains, Garmin Nuvi 2008 Cadillac Gold Mist DTS LUX III - Gone! 2010 Mercedes Benz GLK 350 - Gone! "Didja ever notice that quiet people are not the only ones who don't say much?"

09-16-2004, 04:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
SIM Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Laval, Canada Posts: 745	Homer, I would never give up the well-kept Z-12 secret for the water spots on glass... __________________ Murano SL AWD '07 Silver chrome/charcoal w/sunroof (everything but Nav & leather) Motorola IHF1000 Bluetooth car kit with cell mute for Bose OEM Nissan iPod interface Cloud-Rider lower grill XPel everywhere Infinity Kappa (4 doors + tweeters), Infinity Basslink T sub Garmin Nuvi 350 GPS Aftermarket Code Alarm CA670 with remote start and Flashlogic PK03 (security bypass) & NISDL (door locks & OEM alarm trigger) Saris Talon 59" load bars with Thule Big Mouth bicycle racks Curt hitch with homemade harness Performance exhaust sound only; Yeah, it sounds like a Z but performs like a 4000 pounds MO!

09-16-2004, 06:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
zebelkhan Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Morgan Hill, Ca Posts: 6,041	Homer, I liked your writeup on Zaino so much I am switching! Go Zaino!!!!!!!!! __________________ 2004 SL AWD - Super Black - Leather Package (Café latte) - Tow Package - Floor Mats - Splash Guards - Cargo Area Protector - Rear Bumper Protector - Front Window Tint - Dawn Color Matched Body Side Molding – Day Time Running Lights - PAC-NIS1 Aux Audio input - Pressure Pro TPMS and Anti Theft Sensor Locks - 7" Xenarc VGA Touchscreen - Compaq EVO e-PC 2.0 GHz Pentium 4 Carputer with 120GB HD, DSATX PSU / Shutdown Controller, Road Runner Front End, iGuidance 3.0 Navigation, DVD player, Internet access, XM satellite radio, Deluo GPS receiver, Linksys WiFi Antenna, TERK XM antenna - Tweeter 22uF CAP mod - Magnetbra - Custom Backup Camera - Aries Polished Stainless Steel Sidestep (nerf) Bars - Euro-Tech Nudge Bar - Homemade Lower Grill Cover - Auxiliary Projection Fog Lamps - Aluminum Fuel Tank Shields - Wade Window Deflectors - Nissan Sunroof Deflector - Scosche UBRH Bluetooth Hands-Free Car Kit

09-17-2004, 03:43 AM	#12 (permalink)
pcs15394 Super Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Central Florida Posts: 757	Zaino or Butter I am now perplexed - I was willing to take the leap to Zaino although I think the Klasse products I have been using have done pretty well, but to think I could have saved all that money and just grabbed some Land O Lakes out of the Fridge. Homer as usual you had me ROFL. __________________ Sean I Miss my :04 Midnight Blue SL , Tinted Front Windows, Chrome SL Wheels, Rear Bumper protector, SS Aries Step Bars, and Push Bar.

09-17-2004, 04:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
GripperDon Mr. 3 K, 3/3/5. 5K,10/5/7 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PB5-926 Posts: 5,077	clay bar Just got the Muellers Mother clay bar kit. WOW is that great, paint feels like clean glass and looks great. __________________ Previous Owner of, The Mod Mo, 05, SL, FWD, Platinum, Charcoal Leather, Touring, Technology Pkgs., TPMS etc. Chrome Wheels, Roof Rack Bbars. Cargo Protector. Extended Warranty, X-Tire, AutoMate. Leatherique treated leather. Diamond Window Tint, Tires 3 step balanced. Stainless Steel Laser Cut Grill. Glass VIN etch, Debadged. Silver Painted Calipers. 1300F Ceramic painted Muffler. B-Quite Supreme, sound matting. External Sound ndercoated. White Led Parking Lights. Led Front Door Entrance Lights. Yellow Ion Fogs. Silver-Amber Front Turn Signals. Hella 100 Watt @ 5000K Driving Lights. SAT receiver–Delphi XM Roady2 Hidden Antenna install. Fan cooled Inverter AC to Xbox. MTX 200 watt auto on Amp deciated power to Bose Sub Woofer. PAC-Niss dual aux in for Sat and X Box audio. Generator Labs NoNag modded Rear Camera. “NAV Box" W/Modded X Box X2 Chip. DVD’s, MP3 & JPEG pics ,160 gig HD / Wireless Lynksis 802.11G Ethernet link. Runs Xbox Media Center. rear Bumper Protector. Selectable Horns: OEM MO/WoLo air. Tinted Tails-Bright bulbs. Tweeters tilted + 19uf mod. Lower Grill Stone Shield. Front Floor Amber Courtesy Lights. Chrome over Stainless Rocker Bars. Wireless LED Turn Signal Mirrors. Top mounted Led Stop Light modded with The backoff.

09-23-2004, 10:39 AM	#14 (permalink)
beemer-biker Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 56	Ok, since I have never used a clay bar, what are the advantages? What is it supposed to accomplish? I keep reading about all the good things it does, but I am not sure of all it does. It also seems like a lot of work to apply. Does it have to be wiped off after applying, like wax? Or, does it come off as you put it on? TIA __________________ George '03 FWD Midnight Blue SL, loaded minus NAV- SOLD!! DON'T BUY NISSAN!

09-23-2004, 12:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
GripperDon Mr. 3 K, 3/3/5. 5K,10/5/7 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PB5-926 Posts: 5,077	Clay the MO The lubricant makes rubbing the clay bar just like wiping a wet rag across the paint. There is no clay to wipe off only the dried lubricant that is a light wipe. You can do the whole MO in about 40 minutes. Follow up with cleaning wax and then past wax. I did my black SLK as well and it glistnes. __________________ Previous Owner of, The Mod Mo, 05, SL, FWD, Platinum, Charcoal Leather, Touring, Technology Pkgs., TPMS etc. Chrome Wheels, Roof Rack Bbars. Cargo Protector. Extended Warranty, X-Tire, AutoMate. Leatherique treated leather. Diamond Window Tint, Tires 3 step balanced. Stainless Steel Laser Cut Grill. Glass VIN etch, Debadged. Silver Painted Calipers. 1300F Ceramic painted Muffler. B-Quite Supreme, sound matting. External Sound ndercoated. White Led Parking Lights. Led Front Door Entrance Lights. Yellow Ion Fogs. Silver-Amber Front Turn Signals. Hella 100 Watt @ 5000K Driving Lights. SAT receiver–Delphi XM Roady2 Hidden Antenna install. Fan cooled Inverter AC to Xbox. MTX 200 watt auto on Amp deciated power to Bose Sub Woofer. PAC-Niss dual aux in for Sat and X Box audio. Generator Labs NoNag modded Rear Camera. “NAV Box" W/Modded X Box X2 Chip. DVD’s, MP3 & JPEG pics ,160 gig HD / Wireless Lynksis 802.11G Ethernet link. Runs Xbox Media Center. rear Bumper Protector. Selectable Horns: OEM MO/WoLo air. Tinted Tails-Bright bulbs. Tweeters tilted + 19uf mod. Lower Grill Stone Shield. Front Floor Amber Courtesy Lights. Chrome over Stainless Rocker Bars. Wireless LED Turn Signal Mirrors. Top mounted Led Stop Light modded with The backoff.

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