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post #31 of 178 Old 06-25-2005, 07:36 AM
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It would look like this....

I did see a pot that looks good, but I don't see that it's got a logarithmic (or Audio) taper to it.

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Why would you want a log taper?
Looks like a classic place you would want a linear taper.

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Maybe you're right Homer... I just glanced at it and saw each position more than doubled the last position's value an figured a Linear taper would suck as it would all be at one end. A Log might be too much the other way. It's been years since I've looked at the curve.

Do ya happen to remember? That's a lot easier than me looking it up again.

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Gee, I looked and saw 750 on one end and 1 ohm (I don't believe that) on the other and some steps in between.
You may be right.

It's just that when I think of Log pots I think of audio.........1 DB steps for instance........and that has nothing to do with positioning a light source.
Most step motors are linear by nature.

As to the one ohm resistor shown..........
If it takes 120 ohms to make a real difference.......then I have to believe that the 1 ohm is a straight wire, or 0 ohms.
! ohm resistors just add to cost and in this case I don't see it doing anything.
I know that I wouldn't put a 1 ohm resistor in there unless I was using it as a fuse.......and that is generally a very bad idea as resistors tend to smoke and sometimes flame when overloaded......

Bottom line, I remove my objection, you may be right, I just don't know the exact electrical characteristics of Log Pots. I just know the audio results.........

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One thing I noticed... You haven't installed the aiming switch. Is this something you've considered?
I don't think I will really need that as my loads are fairly consistent (hand tools, some inventory and test equipment). I will be having my headlights aimed at the dealer as soon as my rims arrive from LA. I may ask them to look up the factory parts. I assume if the leads exist, and the motors are already on the housings (small motors behind each white plastic screw), it may just be plug and play (plus mount the switch) at the dashboard then?

If it is this simple and not too many $$$, I may consider it..........

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MO in TO, I think you are right.
I have the OEM HIDS and after the original adjustment, I have never adjusted the lights again.
I suppose if I occasionally towed a boat...........

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I have a co-worker who has a 2003 SE. She is getting tired of little things that are happening to her MO (a few weeks ago her alternator failed and now she has the gas cap lock problem) so she is thinking about trading it in for a Ford.....

I am trying to convince her to let me swap the headlights with mine before trading it in. I know I will have no issues with installing the HIDs on mine, but will the Halogoen ones work on hers? - Does anyone know?

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I have a co-worker who has a 2003 SE. She is getting tired of little things that are happening to her MO (a few weeks ago her alternator failed and now she has the gas cap lock problem) so she is thinking about trading it in for a Ford.....

I am trying to convince her to let me swap the headlights with mine before trading it in. I know I will have no issues with installing the HIDs on mine, but will the Halogoen ones work on hers? - Does anyone know?
Only way to find out would be to try it. Since no SE comes with halogens, you know from the start the wiring will be slightly different.

Also it will affect trade in value.

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Also it will affect trade in value.
LOL...I better make sure she does not see your post...!

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LOL...I better make sure she does not see your post...!
ur a sneaky one...

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I have a co-worker who has a 2003 SE. She is getting tired of little things that are happening to her MO (a few weeks ago her alternator failed and now she has the gas cap lock problem) so she is thinking about trading it in for a Ford.....

I am trying to convince her to let me swap the headlights with mine before trading it in. I know I will have no issues with installing the HIDs on mine, but will the Halogoen ones work on hers? - Does anyone know?
In MO equiped with HID, power are provided to the hid bulb all time when the headlight is on regardless it is at lo beam or hi beam. The solenoid inside the HID headlight will then received powered (+) if the driver pull the stalk behind the steering wheel for hi beam. Notice here, there are 2 powered wires allowed to be 'hot' at the same time.

In MO equiped with halogen, the hot wires can only be either one depending whether it is lo or hi beam that you want. This is why direct retrofit of HID to murano need additional relay circuit. (see MO IN TO writeups). The relay will trick the halogen wirings to behave like HID wirings: 2 powered wire simultaneously instead of the either-or.

If you swap your halogen headlight to hers and she pull the stalk to hi beam, both the hi and lo wires will be powered since her Electrical control module still think that his wiring is HID! I dont know if 9007 halogen bulb can have both hi and lo filament inside the bulb to be hot at the same time; it may blow the bulb out instantenously because of current overload, no?

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I am sure a circuit with a couple of relays coul be developed. Both cars would have to be modofied unless the IPDMs were switched at the same time.

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Thanks for the inputs. I was hoping for no modification to her car because I am not sure if she would go for anything other than a streight swap.

Oh well, I guess I could ask...

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Thanks for the inputs. I was hoping for no modification to her car because I am not sure if she would go for anything other than a streight swap.

Oh well, I guess I could ask...
I really think you should be up front and also let her know the implications of switching to halogen (i.e. effect on trade in value). Of course you can do whatever you like, but I need to "officially" state my caution here in case something comes up later on.

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I really think you should be up front and also let her know the implications of switching to halogen (i.e. effect on trade in value). Of course you can do whatever you like, but I need to "officially" state my caution here in case something comes up later on.
Thank you Eric, and I would not have it any other way. I was just kidding above...

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