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post #1 of 33 Old 11-25-2008, 11:15 PM Thread Starter
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Idle relearn?

Lately when I shut down my MO and then restart it while it is warm, it will start but then die. I restart it and all is OK.

Only happens after sitting for 10-45 minutes after warmed up.

Do you think the idle relearn would help?

I don't have any other idle/hesitation issues.


Does anyone have a copy of TSB05-090?

All I have is:

"Idle Air Volume Learning" procedure (TSB05-090)

1. Start engine and warm to operating temp
2. Turn engine to OFF and wait at least 10 sec.
3. Turn IGN to ON and wait 3 seconds
4. Floor and release the accelerator 5 times within 5 seconds
5. Wait 7 seconds, then press the accelerator for 20 seconds until the "Service Engine Soon" light stops blinking and turns ON.
6. Wait 3 seconds after the SES light comes on, and then release the accelerator.
7. Start the engine, let it idle and wait 20 seconds.
8. If idle is not to spec, then perform diagnostics as per below:

- Check the PCV hose to make sure it is connected
- Check around the intake plenum for a vacuum leak (after the MAF) - could the gasket have been crushed when the plenum was installed? I've read about that happening on other installs.
- Last resort is to replace the ECM with a good one

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Check out http://www.nissanhelp.com/Models/200...escription.htm

They have all the service bulletins and recalls grouped by model and year.

I hope this helps.

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If you don't have the relearn procedure then check out this thread:

Bad gas mileage

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Thanks for all the responses..... I'll give it a try.

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OK I tried the relearn... went OK but I could could not get the SES light to turn off at the end of the entire procedure. Each time I tried it it would end up flashing, sometimes flashing faster or slower and when I started the car up I still had the same issue. Finally I tried again, still same issue with the SES light but the idle didn't die on the restart.....

So I'll monitor it but it seems it worked even though I never got a steady SES light at the end of the procedure.

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I tried the proceedure again as the MO is not dying but the RPM (and engine sound) drops to zero but cathes itself so it doesn't fully stall.

Everytime I try the procedure all goes well but the SES light never goes out at the end of the procedure.

Has anyone done this successfully? I can't fingure out what I"m doing wrong.

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My attempt was 100% successful. I had to try the steps in the pictoral a few times in order to get it right. I had to take my watch off and put it right in front of me while doing it though because the timing seems to be very important.

I do remember that the SES light would start to blink sometimes before the initial 10 seconds was up and that I would finish counting to 20 before releasing the pedal. After I released the pedal the SES light would stay on and then I would start the car and let it idle for a while.

Of course, this was months ago so my memory could be playing tricks on me. Bottom line...my MO hasn't died at startup ever since.

If you're still having troubles, I'll do my relearn again and record my observations.

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Thanks I think I've got it all seems right but at the SES light never turns off at the end. Did yours?

(I've got my digital watch out in front of me too.) What too many numbers to perform in these steps...

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Yea...I remember waiting for the light to turn off. Then I would wait a few seconds before turning on the engine.

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Hmmm maybe I'll try it again but I can't get that light to turn off and I think I'm following it correctly......

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Hmmm maybe I'll try it again but I can't get that light to turn off and I think I'm following it correctly......
I hate to say it, but it could be your battery trying to tell you something.......

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You know its funny I was thinking the same... on that note all my radio presets had reset one days a couple of weeks ago. The clock was OK though..... so I'm thinking I"ve got some warning signs here....

However in my sense of adventure (jumper cables in trunk) I will continue with the original battery until starting becomes difficult/impossible. (Or until its gets really cold outside)

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I hate to say it, but it could be your battery trying to tell you something.......



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Its reassuring to know that **IF** my battery dies I can call anyone on this forrum for a jump... including Kris and Njjoe.

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However in my sense of adventure (jumper cables in trunk) I will continue with the original battery until starting becomes difficult/impossible. (Or until its gets really cold outside)
I wonder if a weak battery puts extra strain on the alternator.....

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