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post #31 of 140 Old 04-11-2007, 08:35 AM
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The look of the fluid does not mean much.

However, I still would drain-and-fill it every 30k miles. It is a cheap insurance......I did it with the FX as well. Money well spent.

I know Joe will not agree with us but....


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When I mentioned the color of the CVT fluid, I was in my mind (probably incorrectly) comparing it to the color differences in good 'ol red automatic transmission fluid. When its fluid color gets darker, it gives a fair indication of when it's (past?) due for a fluid change. Thanks all for the input. Bottom line is we all agree that changing it early is good insurance against having to spend thousands of dollars for a new CVT out of warranty.
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Here is another option for CVT fluid manufactured by Nippon Oil, the largest oil company in Japan. They supply the factory fill engine oil, transmission fluid to Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Mitsubishi, and Hyundai.

They recently launched ENEOS - their first aftermarket brand of fully-synthetic engine oils and ATF including CVT fluid.

It is an alternative to the $18-25 per quart from the Nissan dealership.

Here is more info:
http://www.eneos.us/web/cvt_fluid.aspx
http://www.ChrysanStore.com

Full disclosure: Yes, we are a distributor for ENEOS!

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Looks like a good alternative, since it does list it as being a replacement for the NS2-CVT fluid.

Do you know if they are the source for Nissan OEM fluid?
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I can't say for sure about a specific product (i.e. the OEM CVT fluid) due to confidentiality agreements. But, this is what ENEOS says on their home page: www.eneos.us

"We are proud to supply leading car manufacturers on a factory fill basis. NOC develops oils for Japanese automobile and motorcycle manufacturers: Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Yamaha, Hyundai. NOC is the major supplier of lubricants in Japan, USA and other countries."

So, I interpret this as they supply some or all of the OEM fluids to the Asian car manufacturers. It may be engine oil, transmission fluid, CVT fluid, or a combination of these fluids.

Hope this helps.

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Hmmm, the first alternative for Nissan's NS-2 fluid. I wonder who will be the first to give it a try.

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Hmmm, the first alternative for Nissan's NS-2 fluid. I wonder who will be the first to give it a try.
ye, it is an interesting question. It is quite likely this is the same fluid.....

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Hmmm, the first alternative for Nissan's NS-2 fluid. I wonder who will be the first to give it a try.
You guys know sure as hell it ain't gonna' be me. At least not until she hits 150,000 miles.

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Joe,

you would be last on mine mind when it comes to CVT fluid change...

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Thanks for the replies & feedback, everyone

I understand that the dealerships & quick lubes want you to come in as often as possible and they recommend a CVT flush every 30,000 miles.

But $300+ for a CVT flush at the dealership is tough to swallow.

This is another source of CVT fluid from a very reputable oil company (Nippon Oil) where previously there was no other choice but the dealership.

Quite a few Toyota/Honda dealerships are already on board on the West Coast. Check out a distributor in California: http://www.eneos.us/web/dealer_locator.aspx?state=ca

I will also check with ENEOS's technical guy for more supporting data specifically regarding Nissan CVTs.

Stay tuned.

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Has anyone here tried ENEOS CVT fluid yet??? i was just wondering because their website tells the compatibilty of their CVT fluid with most CVT Trani vehicles... It does have Nissan Murano but i just wanted to know that if some1 has practically used it yet! If yes then how was the result??? Any problem at all??? looking forward for replies!
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Has anyone here tried ENEOS CVT fluid yet???
nissanlover-

Welcome to the forum!

Last year there was a lengthy discussion on this topic and the general consensus was that it was not worth the risk to use this unapproved fluid.

Here's a link to that thread: Click Here

I had sent an email to Nippon Oil requesting confirmation of compatibility. The following email is from Satoru (Steve) MATSUMURA from Nippon Oil (USA) Limited in Torrance, CA:

Dear Joe,

Thank you for your inquiry about our product.
Here is my answers to your questions.

1) ENEOS CVT Fluid is compatible with Xtronic CVT. (is NOT compatible with Xtroid CVT.)
2) ENEOS CVT Fluid is not approved by Nissan. However, this product has been tested by Nippon Oil, been marketed in Japan for more than 3 years and been sold to many Nissan cars there.

If you have further questions, please feel free to ask me.
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fluid exchanger

Has anyone tried using a fluid exchanger/pump to change their transmission fluid? I have one and it has a skinny attachment that would allow me to suck the old oil out through the dipstick. I've used it to change oil on other cars before. It works really well.

http://tinyurl.com/j8xd2

Extremely unmessy, easy to use, and it has measurements labelled on the side of it so you know right away how much new fluid to add back in.

Larez2

I read this exchange a while back and now my tranny seems to be slipping. So, I was going to cange the fluid this weekend. However, I was wondering about the fluid exchanger since I didn't really see any newer replies other than the lack of sludge.

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I read this exchange a while back and now my tranny seems to be slipping.
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If your CVT is really "slipping", I doubt very much if a fluid change would rectify the problem.

There are only two places where the CVT could possible slip - 1) the single clutch, or 2) the belt-to-pulley contact patch. If either of those areas are slipping, then you are looking at a new unit.

How many miles are on your MO?

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I read this exchange a while back and now my tranny seems to be slipping.


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If your CVT is really "slipping", I doubt very much if a fluid change would rectify the problem.

There are only two places where the CVT could possible slip - 1) the single clutch, or 2) the belt-to-pulley contact patch. If either of those areas are slipping, then you are looking at a new unit.

How many miles are on your MO?

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126,962 I just checked my records and the dealer changed it at 101,303. I don't really know if it is the tranny but yesterday in the mountains the car hesitated before starting and sometimes I would have to feather the pedal to continue at the same speed.

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