Cooper CS4 Touring - Nissan Murano

hasaanbhutta · 07-27-2007, 11:03 AM

Called my local dealer (not nissan) and they had michelin CT and this cooper cs4. never heard of them before though.

Any idea on how good these tires are ? any users out in the wild right now ?

**njjoe** · 07-27-2007, 11:53 AM

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This is from the Cooper Tires website:

Free 45-Day Road Test (U.S. only)
80,000 mile treadwear protection limited warranty(U.S. only)

The CS4 Touring is Cooper’s premium luxury touring tire designed for drivers who want optimum ride comfort, sporty handling, all-season traction and attractive styling in a touring tire. The CS4 Touring is suitable for a diverse range of vehicles including passenger cars, minivans, small SUVs and crossovers (CUV).

-njjoe

hasaanbhutta · 07-27-2007, 12:05 PM

one more thing....

price comparison

Michelin CT = $230 per tire
Cooper CS4 T = $188 per tire

CDN$......

so i think its a nice tire based on what i read on some websites.... but i'll wait to hear from any forum user.....

**Kris** · 07-27-2007, 12:10 PM

Somehow the 80,000 miles bothers me.............I do not believe that a quality tire, with nice drive, good handling, good grip in all conditions can last so long.....

I would go with CT. We have reliable opinions on those that I trust......

But this is me....

nissanlove · 07-27-2007, 01:01 PM

my grandpas sentra has cooper tires on it... i'm not a fan. the CT's are a proven tire. this cooper tire seems like it should be a passenger car and is ment for a supple ride... i dunno. find out if you can give it the test try also

**Eric L.** · 07-27-2007, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hasaanbhutta
one more thing....

price comparison

Michelin CT = $230 per tire
Cooper CS4 T = $188 per tire

CDN$......

so i think its a nice tire based on what i read on some websites.... but i'll wait to hear from any forum user.....

Egads thats pricey for tires - at first I thought, oh, its in Canadian, but as of today, its almost equal to 1USD anyways, so man, thats expensive. I know shipping from Tirerack might not be possible due to customs charges, but what about a local tire shop?

Its just me, but I've always thought of Cooper as one of the second tier brands since they are not as well known as Michelin, Bridgestone, Goodyear, Yokohama, Dunlop, etc... - I'd go for the CT's in this case based on positive reviews from other owners here.

**njjoe** · 07-27-2007, 06:59 PM

Cooper is advertising a 45-day Road Test, so you have nothing to lose. Give them a try. If you like them then keep 'em, if not then take them up on their offer.

-njjoe

Livin · 07-27-2007, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by njjoe
Cooper is advertising a 45-day Road Test, so you have nothing to lose. Give them a try. If you like them then keep 'em, if not then take them up on their offer.

-njjoe

I agree... try them out... if they are good you saved a bunch of $, if not you get the other tires.

Please report back on your thoughts on the Cooper's... though many people might feel these are 2nd rate they really are not. Cooper, Big-O and several others are just as good as the "big guys" they just don't spend the $ on advertising so they pass the savings along to the consumer and fill a much needed market segment. This is the same as in most other competative markets... laundry soap, clothing, etc. BTW... I'm not guessing about this, I know for a fact from working with/for companies in these markets.

muranomax · 07-28-2007, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hasaanbhutta
Called my local dealer (not nissan) and they had michelin CT and this cooper cs4. never heard of them before though.

Any idea on how good these tires are ? any users out in the wild right now ?

Dont know much about Cooper Tires. The specs suggest that it could be a good touring tire. I recently purchased 4 new kumho solus KR21 tires for the MO. I could not be more happier with the choice. They cost $81 per tire including installation,disposal and all that. These tires are quieter,longer lasting and handle better than the OEM Goodyears. Of course I did not know much about Kumho tires before but at half the price of Michelins and Yokos I did not have anything to lose. My opinion regarding Michelins is that they are great tires but you pay a lot just for the name.When I got the quote from Discounttire.com for Michelins it was going to cost me about $680 for the michelins. I got the Kumhos for $364 all inclusive instead.Its been a week since I had the new tires and they are superb.

Thanks

Muranomax

muranomax · 07-28-2007, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by njjoe
Cooper is advertising a 45-day Road Test, so you have nothing to lose. Give them a try. If you like them then keep 'em, if not then take them up on their offer.

-njjoe

I agree. But you will still have to pay for the installation,balancing and all that will cost you anywhere form 10-15 bucks per tire. So it may end up costing you much more than you started out with.

Thanks

Muranomax

Livin · 07-28-2007, 09:51 AM

muranomax - I'd never heard of Kumho but tirerack has some good reviews of the KR21 and the other touring versions.

njjoe - muranomax makes a good point, though even if you pay $10 per tire and decide to change them out you are still saving money as long as you get then to wave the $10 on the 2nd set. Just do some negotiating... make then pay for the mount/ballance/etc if you decide to replace them.

pbeinetti · 02-22-2008, 11:53 PM

My Kuhmo KR21's were terrible. Could not get rid of vibration, even with Roadforce balancing. Finally dealer took them back and gave me a refund. I am considering the Mastercraft LSR Touring which is made by Cooper, and appears to be almost the same as the CS4 -- but, with an offbrand name.

charliedigital · 02-23-2008, 02:20 PM

That Cooper CS4 is a very good looking tire, I saw it in person my local tire place. The tire guy strongly recommended them too. But they were almost $50 more per tire than the Kumhos I purchased.

osimonov · 03-02-2009, 04:56 PM

in case anyone is still shopping for these, it's $512 for the set of 4 at this place

Livin · 03-02-2009, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by osimonov
in case anyone is still shopping for these, it's $512 for the set of 4 at this place

how do these compare to the Kuhmo KR21 both with ride quality & price?

07-27-2007, 11:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
hasaanbhutta Love to live w/ MO Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Saskatoon,SK Posts: 418	Cooper CS4 Touring Called my local dealer (not nissan) and they had michelin CT and this cooper cs4. never heard of them before though. Any idea on how good these tires are ? any users out in the wild right now ? __________________ 2003 Silver SE AWD, Everything but NAV 2009 Versa SL, hatchback

07-27-2007, 11:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
njjoe Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jersey Shore (not THAT Jersey Shore, the real one) Posts: 12,468	h- This is from the Cooper Tires website: Free 45-Day Road Test (U.S. only) 80,000 mile treadwear protection limited warranty(U.S. only) The CS4 Touring is Cooper’s premium luxury touring tire designed for drivers who want optimum ride comfort, sporty handling, all-season traction and attractive styling in a touring tire. The CS4 Touring is suitable for a diverse range of vehicles including passenger cars, minivans, small SUVs and crossovers (CUV). -njjoe Attached Thumbnails __________________ 2005 SL AWD, Platinum -OEM HID conversion & HID fogs -OEM iPod interface -Upgraded (non-Bose) speakers - Pioneer TS-A1702C & TS-G1643R -Muth signal mirrors -Valley Industries hitch and wiring harness -Aluminum fuel tank shields

07-27-2007, 12:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
hasaanbhutta Love to live w/ MO Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Saskatoon,SK Posts: 418	one more thing.... price comparison Michelin CT = $230 per tire Cooper CS4 T = $188 per tire CDN$...... so i think its a nice tire based on what i read on some websites.... but i'll wait to hear from any forum user..... __________________ 2003 Silver SE AWD, Everything but NAV 2009 Versa SL, hatchback

07-27-2007, 12:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
Kris Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Lake Lanier Posts: 5,265	Somehow the 80,000 miles bothers me.............I do not believe that a quality tire, with nice drive, good handling, good grip in all conditions can last so long..... I would go with CT. We have reliable opinions on those that I trust...... But this is me.... __________________ had: 03 MO SL, Gold, 2WD, Premium, leather, sunroof, Mobil 1, B-Quiet, Garmin Nuvi 250W, Fumoto oil valve, HIR's in fogs 08 CTS 304 HP Direct Injection Engine. Fully loaded with every option except AWD 04 FX35, AWD, Touring loaded, Garmin Nuvi 3590LMT, Fumoto oil valve Dream car: Ferrari Italia ------------------------------------------------ "It's not about how fast you go, it's about how you go fast" - Enzo Ferrari

07-27-2007, 01:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
nissanlove Super Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Edmonton,AB Posts: 1,373	my grandpas sentra has cooper tires on it... i'm not a fan. the CT's are a proven tire. this cooper tire seems like it should be a passenger car and is ment for a supple ride... i dunno. find out if you can give it the test try also __________________ The Finish Line... Is Only The Begining 2005 Nissan Murano SE with TECH PKG. "Z" GRILL,PolarStart Remote Car Starter(made in Alberta for Alberta) JWT Pop charger SE Black Chrome wheels with Bridgestone dueler HP SPORT rubber custom flowmaster rear exhaust

07-27-2007, 06:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
njjoe Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jersey Shore (not THAT Jersey Shore, the real one) Posts: 12,468	Cooper is advertising a 45-day Road Test, so you have nothing to lose. Give them a try. If you like them then keep 'em, if not then take them up on their offer. -njjoe __________________ 2005 SL AWD, Platinum -OEM HID conversion & HID fogs -OEM iPod interface -Upgraded (non-Bose) speakers - Pioneer TS-A1702C & TS-G1643R -Muth signal mirrors -Valley Industries hitch and wiring harness -Aluminum fuel tank shields

07-28-2007, 09:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
Livin Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 80	muranomax - I'd never heard of Kumho but tirerack has some good reviews of the KR21 and the other touring versions. njjoe - muranomax makes a good point, though even if you pay $10 per tire and decide to change them out you are still saving money as long as you get then to wave the $10 on the 2nd set. Just do some negotiating... make then pay for the mount/ballance/etc if you decide to replace them.

02-22-2008, 11:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
pbeinetti Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 74	My Kuhmo KR21's were terrible. Could not get rid of vibration, even with Roadforce balancing. Finally dealer took them back and gave me a refund. I am considering the Mastercraft LSR Touring which is made by Cooper, and appears to be almost the same as the CS4 -- but, with an offbrand name.

02-23-2008, 02:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
charliedigital Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: SC Posts: 167	That Cooper CS4 is a very good looking tire, I saw it in person my local tire place. The tire guy strongly recommended them too. But they were almost $50 more per tire than the Kumhos I purchased. __________________ 2003 Murano SE 2WD Deep Bordeaux/Cabernet Leather Magnet Bra, Peripheral PXNII IPOD interface, Kumho Solus KR21 tires

03-02-2009, 04:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
osimonov Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1	in case anyone is still shopping for these, it's $512 for the set of 4 at this place

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