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High Mileage MO,Would I be crazy?

Hello All.
I am thinking about an 05 Murano with 190K miles.
Anyone hear of one that worn?

I will know more details on Wed. and will look at it and drive but thought I would get any first thoughts about it.

Am I crazy for even thinking about it and at what price would the crazy start to fade?


Be brutal based on experience,please.

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Tough one. I would say no. If the CVT were to ever go out, you are going to spend $6k to replace; clearly more than the car is worth. Do you know the complete history of the car, maintenance, etc.?

I wouldn't pay for more than $2-3k for the car and hope the CVT can last another 2 years. That is the only way you can get your money out of it.

Just my 2 cents.

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Tough one. I would say no. If the CVT were to ever go out, you are going to spend $6k to replace; clearly more than the car is worth. Do you know the complete history of the car, maintenance, etc.?

I wouldn't pay for more than $2-3k for the car and hope the CVT can last another 2 years. That is the only way you can get your money out of it.

Just my 2 cents.
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Thanks for the thought.
I won't really know details till the morning.
A friend who runs a Dealership took it in trade with the intention to wholesale it of course.
Meanwhile I have been browsing a little and called him to see what his impressions of a used Murano might be.
He told me he just took in this one and I could get into it cheap.
It is loaded I think and awd too.
He was surprised by how nice it seems but he also did not and would not have traded it himself with that mileage.

So I have nothing to lose looking and driving it and seeing just how low it might go for.
If there are records it will help.

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Re: High Mileage MO,Would I be crazy?

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I am thinking about an 05 Murano with 190K miles.
As a second car, for the right price, why not?

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I agree with Jeff - $2-3K (maybe $4K, stretching it) would be an OK price. I'd be more concerned why a seemingly nice car was traded in at 190K miles. That's a red flag for sure. Once you drive a car that many miles, wouldn't you keep driving it till it dies? Especially knowing how low the resale is going to be on ANY car with close to 200K miles.
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Ed; do you feel lucky?
The only reason I ask is you are really taking a risk and a gamble with the MO's CVT.
Anything else that needs to be repaired can be done so at a reasonable cost that would be representative with any vehicle with that milage.
As Jeff has pointed out; if you drive off that lot and your CVT goes the next day; you will be out of what ever you paid and walk away from the car at a loss.
Or; you may drive it for miles and never have an issue.
I personally would not touch that one unless I was a gambler.

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Only if you can get it cheap.

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Thanks for all the comments.

Does anyone have a feeling of how frequent the tranny might fail?
I mean say it has already been replaced once,would that help my odds of it lasting or is there any cycle of time they seem to last for?
If it hasn't been replaced before is it just a ticking bomb or are there really just a small number that do fail.

Also what is the highest mile MO anyone knows of?

I will drive it this morning and report after.

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Thanks for all the comments.

Does anyone have a feeling of how frequent the tranny might fail?
I mean say it has already been replaced once,would that help my odds of it lasting or is there any cycle of time they seem to last for?
If it hasn't been replaced before is it just a ticking bomb or are there really just a small number that do fail.

Also what is the highest mile MO anyone knows of?

I will drive it this morning and report after.

Thanks
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I think the overall numbers of failer compared to not is very small overall.

If it has been replaced once before; I would say that your odds are in your favour.

This one is by far the highest that I have heard of so far. I have 178,00 km (112,000 miles) on mine and is the original tranny since new.

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Cause of most CVT failures are unknown because Nissan does not let anyone repair the CVT and it is always replaced as a unit. It is of general opinion that most CVT failures start with oil leaks, either from an axle seal, the seal in between CVT and transfer case, or a transfer case seal leak that causes oil from transfer case get into the CVT. Carefully watch for those signs. See if you can find out when and at what mileage it was replaced. A friend of mine at work is driving a 2005 with 116k miles on the original CVT (he has a FWD) and has had no trouble.

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Thanks for the response.

I looked yesterday and it appears to be a complete pile of crap.
I am glad it was in exactly the condition it was traded in so I could get a feel for how it may have been maintained.

It drove and rode fine but it looked like it had never been cleaned,I mean never.

I still have not seen any history and will wait to see that but it certainly was not babied or even respected during its lifetime.

I also have not gotten a price but I do not see how they could pay me enough to take it.

I am surprised that my friend thought I would want it too.

Talk about polishing a "Turd".

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Talk about polishing a "Turd".
Sounds like it hasn't even been polished.
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...I am surprised that my friend thought I would want it too....
You will know once he gives you a price....

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Cleaning by itself is not such a big deal - you can pay a detail company to clean it completely.

However, my theory has always been that if someone won't even bother to keep their car clean, they have almost certainly neglected to keep up with oil changes and other maintenance, even the most basic. As a result, the clock could be ready to chime midnight on that vehicle.

I'd say run away.

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Cleaning by itself is not such a big deal - you can pay a detail company to clean it completely.

However, my theory has always been that if someone won't even bother to keep their car clean, they have almost certainly neglected to keep up with oil changes and other maintenance, even the most basic. As a result, the clock could be ready to chime midnight on that vehicle.

I'd say run away.
This is exactly what I thought I said already.
The way the car looks reflects on its upkeep I am sure.

I also looks like they want around 4k for it.
Not from me!

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