iPod control on the SL - Page 11 - Nissan Murano

grayvader · 10-01-2009, 12:05 PM

grayvader · 10-01-2009, 09:24 PM

Ok, I finally busted into the console and confirmed what jayhawk said...

The harness (M148 for those of you with the service manual) is missing as are the pins to the A/V control until. (This still seems silly to me, but I've worked in the PC MFG industry and know all the cost cutting that goes on in volume manufacturing so I shouldn't be surprised.)

However, now that I have the ipod control module and GTR harness in hand I think I know what needs to be done.

It should be an easy harness build -- I'm hoping jerseyparts will jump in here with some harness experience.
I'll work out which connectors we need and try to figure out the pinout from the GTR part up to the head unit. I suspect it'll take 2 sets of connectors at the HU similar to what the usa-spec adapter needs. However, it won't plug into the SAT input like that one does. (hence -- can't use the USA spec harness to frankenstein something for this)

More info to follow. Brian, please jump in if you think you can help with the harness.

alloveru · 10-09-2009, 07:23 AM

hey grayvader, how goes the battle? any luck?

grayvader · 10-23-2009, 02:28 PM

I got a warranty replacement on the USA spec since it was so flaky... this one is even worse.
I don't suggest anyone buy it.
Haven't had time to work on the wiring harness for the GTR version yet.

alloveru · 10-23-2009, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by grayvader
I got a warranty replacement on the USA spec since it was so flaky... this one is even worse.
I don't suggest anyone buy it.
Haven't had time to work on the wiring harness for the GTR version yet.

They are suppose to send me a warranty replacement. confirmed it last monday and almost 2 weeks later, i still don't have it! horrible service!

grayvader · 10-23-2009, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alloveru

They are suppose to send me a warranty replacement. confirmed it last monday and almost 2 weeks later, i still don't have it! horrible service!

I had to email them again with some kind of form filled out.
Then they sent it right out.

However, like I said it doesn't work any better. In fact this one is nearly completely unusable. I can't change playback mode at all. It stays in "all songs" the whole time. cant even get to direct mode.

I'll be sending it back for a refund.

Mako · 11-03-2009, 12:51 PM

I just picked up my new 2009 Murano SL. I was actually looking for the LE because I wanted to FINALLY have a good iPod experience for the car. My dealer had a very hard time finding an LE with the color and options (not that you need many on an LE). I settled for an SL. It took them 4 weeks to find my loaded SL. I thought the CF card would make up for the lack of iPod interface. I was wrong.

Not only does the CF card have a file limit, but it also does not allow shuffle or any other playback method asside from the order in which the files were copies. Ugh!

I love my Murano. The 2009 handles much nicer than my older 2006 did. The new NAV and controls are also vast improvements over 2006. It really bothers me that Nissan is being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the digital media arena. ****. All they needed to do was create a USB port that would play back a Mp3 and read imbedded tags and albumn art; allow shuffle and playlists.

Next, a simple control box option that could easily be added to ANY Murano for control and playback of iPhone or iPod would not have been so hard.

What does a loyal customer have to do to get iPod control asside from buying an LE? I almost regret buying the 2009 now. If I could have returned it within 30 days like Chevy is doing now, I would have. I would have waited for an LE to become available.

I can only hope that someday (sooner rather than later) we get a relatively easy upgrade option for native operation and playback of the iPod.

hfelknor · 11-03-2009, 01:19 PM

I feel your pain.

My sojourn with the Murano is winding down and i+I am "in the market".

It is not as common as you would think to find a good integration.
Some do a form of integration where they have the ipod in the Glove compartment and it is connected to the radio from the headphone jack. That is not satisfactory.

Really every car company should do what chevy has done on their "new" Equinox

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...ce-tested.html

Homer

Mako · 11-03-2009, 01:24 PM

Hehe I was actually considering the Equinox.

grayvader · 11-03-2009, 01:59 PM

If you like the Equinox implementation, then you'd really like the BMW implementation. I know that's another class of car, but what I have seen is a near perfect job.

Mako · 11-04-2009, 07:19 AM

I think they were one of the first, if not the first car company to offer ipod intregration. I looked at it, but simply could not justify the cost. The only problem I have ever had with either my 2006 or my newer 2009 Murano was the lack of iPod integration. If they could solve that in an elegant way, I would be extremely happy. =)

alloveru · 11-04-2009, 03:16 PM

so i got the replacement unit... not any better. still the same thing.

now, to be honest with everyone, yes there are some minor glitches with the system. but as a whole, it is not bad, i will keep it. and hope they will come out with a firmware update.

the only issues i have right now with it are:

1. when going back to XM radio, it only displays 8 characters on each line... if you start the car with the ipod unplugged its about an 80% chance that it will display correctly. subsequent starts with the ipod unplugged and the display is normal.

2. radio preset buttons do not work as described. (each button is suppose to control how u select songs, ie playlist, artist, album.. etc.)

3. steeering wheel prev/next controls only control the next/previous playlist or next artist, and not actually the next song within the list.

Again these are pretty minor issues, everything else works... really wish they would fix number 1, but i will live.

Stephie · 11-16-2009, 09:06 PM

I feel pretty darn lucky after reading all these threads. I just picked up an '09 SL in October and it has the integrated IPOD feature built right in! It's plug and play right in the center console storage compartment. Everything displays on the monitor and can be controlled through the steering wheel. FAVORITE feature on the vehicle!! Is this not a feature that could have been added for other SL owners?

grayvader · 11-16-2009, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stephie
I feel pretty darn lucky after reading all these threads. I just picked up an '09 SL in October and it has the integrated IPOD feature built right in! It's plug and play right in the center console storage compartment. Everything displays on the monitor and can be controlled through the steering wheel. FAVORITE feature on the vehicle!! Is this not a feature that could have been added for other SL owners?

you must have the 360 package that came out after the rest of us bought ours

Mako · 11-17-2009, 09:07 AM

Well that is annoying. I wanted the option and I got mine in September. I was told that I could not get the option on the SL, only the LE. I want to know what it would take to get this installed! Grrr.

I just got off the phone with my dealer. He said that talking to his engineer, the SL head unit is with Traffic NAV (I am guessing he means XM Radio with Traffic) plugs into the same place where the iPod adapter would go. I asked if that means the traffic Nav (which I could give a **** about) can be removed or unplugged so that the iPod system can be plugged in. He said that the engineer (mechanic) said that once it is put together that way, it cannot be swapped.

That seems sort of like a BS answer to me. Not like the soldered the cable in there. I am also sure the LE has both the iPod and XM Traffic and I find it hard to believe they made two distinctly different head units, one for the SL and the other for the LE.

There has to be a way to install the parts. I just don't want to rip my dash out and start buying spare parts from Nissan to explore the option.

10-01-2009, 12:05 PM	#151 (permalink)
grayvader Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 66	GTR ipod manual Try this... link to rapidshare posting

11-03-2009, 12:51 PM	#157 (permalink)
Mako Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 42	I just picked up my new 2009 Murano SL. I was actually looking for the LE because I wanted to FINALLY have a good iPod experience for the car. My dealer had a very hard time finding an LE with the color and options (not that you need many on an LE). I settled for an SL. It took them 4 weeks to find my loaded SL. I thought the CF card would make up for the lack of iPod interface. I was wrong. Not only does the CF card have a file limit, but it also does not allow shuffle or any other playback method asside from the order in which the files were copies. Ugh! I love my Murano. The 2009 handles much nicer than my older 2006 did. The new NAV and controls are also vast improvements over 2006. It really bothers me that Nissan is being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the digital media arena. ****. All they needed to do was create a USB port that would play back a Mp3 and read imbedded tags and albumn art; allow shuffle and playlists. Next, a simple control box option that could easily be added to ANY Murano for control and playback of iPhone or iPod would not have been so hard. What does a loyal customer have to do to get iPod control asside from buying an LE? I almost regret buying the 2009 now. If I could have returned it within 30 days like Chevy is doing now, I would have. I would have waited for an LE to become available. I can only hope that someday (sooner rather than later) we get a relatively easy upgrade option for native operation and playback of the iPod. __________________ 2009 Nissan Murano SL Platinum Graphite Premium Package Technology Package Navigation Package Dual Panel Moonroof Black Leather Interior

11-03-2009, 01:19 PM	#158 (permalink)
hfelknor Super Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southwest Florida Posts: 3,263	I feel your pain. My sojourn with the Murano is winding down and i+I am "in the market". It is not as common as you would think to find a good integration. Some do a form of integration where they have the ipod in the Glove compartment and it is connected to the radio from the headphone jack. That is not satisfactory. Really every car company should do what chevy has done on their "new" Equinox http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...ce-tested.html Homer __________________ HAD The GOLD RUSH until Nov 6 2009 2003 Gold SLFWD with Premium, Sunroof, Latte Leather, Ultrashield Invisible Bra, Sunroof wind deflector, Aluminum Tank Guard, Chrome Wheels by Ion Alloy, Michelin 235/65-18 Cross Terrains, Garmin Nuvi 350 2008 Cadillac Gold Mist DTS LUX III With All Options Except NAV - The Garmin works in both cars! 2010 Mercedes Benz GLK 350 with Metallic Barolo red paint and iPod integration. <img src="http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b256/hfelknor/MyMurano.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com"> "Didja ever notice that quiet people are not the only ones who don't say much?"

11-03-2009, 01:24 PM	#159 (permalink)
Mako Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 42	Hehe I was actually considering the Equinox. __________________ 2009 Nissan Murano SL Platinum Graphite Premium Package Technology Package Navigation Package Dual Panel Moonroof Black Leather Interior

11-04-2009, 07:19 AM	#161 (permalink)
Mako Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 42	I think they were one of the first, if not the first car company to offer ipod intregration. I looked at it, but simply could not justify the cost. The only problem I have ever had with either my 2006 or my newer 2009 Murano was the lack of iPod integration. If they could solve that in an elegant way, I would be extremely happy. =) __________________ 2009 Nissan Murano SL Platinum Graphite Premium Package Technology Package Navigation Package Dual Panel Moonroof Black Leather Interior

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10-01-2009, 09:24 PM	#152 (permalink)
grayvader Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 66	Ok, I finally busted into the console and confirmed what jayhawk said... The harness (M148 for those of you with the service manual) is missing as are the pins to the A/V control until. (This still seems silly to me, but I've worked in the PC MFG industry and know all the cost cutting that goes on in volume manufacturing so I shouldn't be surprised.) However, now that I have the ipod control module and GTR harness in hand I think I know what needs to be done. It should be an easy harness build -- I'm hoping jerseyparts will jump in here with some harness experience. I'll work out which connectors we need and try to figure out the pinout from the GTR part up to the head unit. I suspect it'll take 2 sets of connectors at the HU similar to what the usa-spec adapter needs. However, it won't plug into the SAT input like that one does. (hence -- can't use the USA spec harness to frankenstein something for this) More info to follow. Brian, please jump in if you think you can help with the harness.

10-09-2009, 07:23 AM	#153 (permalink)
alloveru Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 31	hey grayvader, how goes the battle? any luck?

10-23-2009, 02:28 PM	#154 (permalink)
grayvader Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 66	I got a warranty replacement on the USA spec since it was so flaky... this one is even worse. I don't suggest anyone buy it. Haven't had time to work on the wiring harness for the GTR version yet.

11-03-2009, 01:59 PM	#160 (permalink)
grayvader Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 66	If you like the Equinox implementation, then you'd really like the BMW implementation. I know that's another class of car, but what I have seen is a near perfect job.

11-04-2009, 03:16 PM	#162 (permalink)
alloveru Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 31	so i got the replacement unit... not any better. still the same thing. now, to be honest with everyone, yes there are some minor glitches with the system. but as a whole, it is not bad, i will keep it. and hope they will come out with a firmware update. the only issues i have right now with it are: 1. when going back to XM radio, it only displays 8 characters on each line... if you start the car with the ipod unplugged its about an 80% chance that it will display correctly. subsequent starts with the ipod unplugged and the display is normal. 2. radio preset buttons do not work as described. (each button is suppose to control how u select songs, ie playlist, artist, album.. etc.) 3. steeering wheel prev/next controls only control the next/previous playlist or next artist, and not actually the next song within the list. Again these are pretty minor issues, everything else works... really wish they would fix number 1, but i will live.

11-16-2009, 09:06 PM	#163 (permalink)
Stephie Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 11	I feel pretty darn lucky after reading all these threads. I just picked up an '09 SL in October and it has the integrated IPOD feature built right in! It's plug and play right in the center console storage compartment. Everything displays on the monitor and can be controlled through the steering wheel. FAVORITE feature on the vehicle!! Is this not a feature that could have been added for other SL owners?

11-17-2009, 09:07 AM	#165 (permalink)
Mako Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 42	Well that is annoying. I wanted the option and I got mine in September. I was told that I could not get the option on the SL, only the LE. I want to know what it would take to get this installed! Grrr. I just got off the phone with my dealer. He said that talking to his engineer, the SL head unit is with Traffic NAV (I am guessing he means XM Radio with Traffic) plugs into the same place where the iPod adapter would go. I asked if that means the traffic Nav (which I could give a **** about) can be removed or unplugged so that the iPod system can be plugged in. He said that the engineer (mechanic) said that once it is put together that way, it cannot be swapped. That seems sort of like a BS answer to me. Not like the soldered the cable in there. I am also sure the LE has both the iPod and XM Traffic and I find it hard to believe they made two distinctly different head units, one for the SL and the other for the LE. There has to be a way to install the parts. I just don't want to rip my dash out and start buying spare parts from Nissan to explore the option. __________________ 2009 Nissan Murano SL Platinum Graphite Premium Package Technology Package Navigation Package Dual Panel Moonroof Black Leather Interior

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