LED Signal bulbs

[Blinky19]

After changing all my interior bulbs, plus license plate bulbs and reverse(back up) bulb to LED, I was thinking of changing the amber turn signal bulbs. From researching, I see that load resistors are needed to prevent hyperflashing. Plus the resistors give off heat. Has anyone done this or have thoughts on it. Thanks and Happy Holidays!

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[Phatty McPatty]

What's the point? Turn signals are safety devices, not toys. Installing LED retrofits where incandescent bulbs belong is neither safe nor legal (at least when dealing with external markers). Swap the interior lights all you want but leave the exterior lights alone.

[Blinky19]

Phatty, I was looking through some old posts and you were very supportive to Red Kiosk when he changed all the bulbs in front. PIAA Super Terra for example. Why the change in opinion?

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[red kiosk]

Actually, I left the turn signals as incandescents, but switched them to Stealth Bulbs...

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Nice clean look when they are off, but amber when they need to be. My Stealth Bulbs are going on 4+ years with no problem. Hope this helps and take care!

Jim

[Phatty McPatty]

Originally Posted by Blinky19

Phatty, I was looking through some old posts and you were very supportive to Red Kiosk when he changed all the bulbs in front. PIAA Super Terra for example. Why the change in opinion?

Yeah, back then my enthusiasm was based in ignorance. I was excited by LED technology and wanted to apply it to my MO. Based off of "reviews" I found around the internet, I experimented with several different types/manufacturers of parking light LED retrofits. They were extremely expensive, but deep down I hoped the adage of "you get what you pay for" would apply. But they kept failing... and quickly. It was evident, even in my naivety, that LED retrofits were majorly flawed. I didn't understand the reasons, so I dug deeper. I found that most* automotive forums were unreliable; spewing uninformed, unattributed, subjective views on the matter (*honestly, this forum is uniquely educated). Obviously, anyone can write baseless assertive posts in any random forum without being tested against reality. Since those adamant, but misguided views already contradicted what I saw with my own two eyes (this commercial comes to mind), I knew they could not be trusted solely on "their word".

I began properly researching the subject, seeking attributable evidence from industry experts. Mucking through a lot of internet garbage, I stumbled across Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and an all encompassing lighting forum kept credible by industry experts that provide reliable attribution (links that end in .gov, .edu, etc.). I learned a lot about lighting science, the way it applies to the automotive industry and the regulations (and their basis) adhered to worldwide.

So yes, I've changed my opinion on the subject. Unlike the hard-line political views we see so much of nowadays (see Three Wise Monkeys), people's views should change and adapt when presented with credible evidence that differs from their personal beliefs and understanding. Hopefully yours does too!

So specific to the topic of LED retrofits, they are illegal (and should be) for many reasons. If you care to know why, refer to this thread, specifically post #7 from an automotive lighting regulatory expert.

[Blinky19]

Understand now Phatty. Red Kiosk, I think I'm gonna try those stealth bulbs. Visited the web site and liked the demo. Front will look cleaner. Didn't you also replace the bulb in the corner of headlight and what happened to the super Terra's. Thanks

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[red kiosk]

Originally Posted by Blinky19

Didn't you also replace the bulb in the corner of headlight and what happened to the super Terra's.

They're still in doing what they are supposed to do. No problem with any of the lighting so far. I think there is a couple of photos in my member gallery showing close-ups of the installed Stealth Bulb both on and off. Take care!

Jim

[Blinky19]

Enjoyed looking at your pictures but none of stealth bulbs I'm gonna order them because I like the look and idea Exactly what bulbs are you using in your side marker spot Is that a bulb you think is worth replacing Thanks for your help

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[red kiosk]

Originally Posted by Blinky19

Enjoyed looking at your pictures but none of stealth bulbs

They're there…

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I used the Super Terra in the corner side marker lights. I still may have the packaging for a part # and will check to see. Take care!

Jim

[Qat]

I also installed the stealth bulbs and, alas, one of them burned out after about 6 months. But the replacement, and the other first installed bulb, have been going fine ever since. I really wish they could have engineered a way to replace those bulbs without removing the grille ... or engineered a grille that was easier to remove and replace.

[Blinky19]

Did you get a free replacement? There's no way to change bulb without grill removal?

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[red kiosk]

Originally Posted by Qat

I really wish they could have engineered a way to replace those bulbs without removing the grille ... or engineered a grille that was easier to remove and replace.

Don't know about your MO, but on my 2009 LE, the turn signal bulbs are accessible from the engine compartment. I really doubt that they changed it on the 2010. A simple twist of the bulb holder at the back of the headlight assembly and then pulling it out reveals the easily replaceable turn signal bulbs. Maybe 10 minutes time total for both sides. I agree, taking that grille out is a major PITA! Take care!

Jim

[Blinky19]

That's good to hear. Was having 2nd thoughts when Qat said grill had to be removed. Hey Red, is the side marker easy to replace and is it worth it in your opinion as far as looks go. Thanks again

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[red kiosk]

They're as easy to replace as the turn signal bulbs. I personally like the look of the white side lights vs. the amber, but there is a reason why they are amber… for safety. But then again, I don't have a front license plate either when I should. It's all a personal choice and what you feel comfortable with. Take care!

Jim

[Blinky19]

Red Kiosk, do you remember if the stealth bulb is the size 1157 or 7440. Thanks

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