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| Has anyone else experienced the driver side door locking on its own after leaving the vehicle? After returning home on two occasions, the driver door was locked when I went back out to the car. Initially, I just thought I had inadvertently just locked it and didn't realize it. This morning, I let the vehicle warm up, and with the keys still in the ignition, ran back into the house to get something. When I came back, the door was locked again. This time I know I did not lock it myself. Fortunately, I have my extra set of keys handy to unlock it. Is this supposed to be a safety feature? My own garage or driveway is the only place I leave the car running for a short period of time. Perhaps this is to prevent someone from stealing the vehicle for those who leave their car running when they go into convenient stores? |
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| i know that with my alarm on my honda, it does that only when the car is off. a safety feature just in case i forget to arm it, it arms itself (which automatically locks the doors). however, it doesn't do it while my car is running. that is weird. weird to a point that it shouldn't do that. wish i could say that i have the murano now to witness this, but, something to look into definitely. |
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| I have had my Murano for six weeks with 2500 miles on it and in that time I have never had the door lock automatically on me. |
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| must be something with taylors' alarm system. something's not set right. |
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Taylormade,
I thought it was me.
First time. I was warming up the car and went in the house for a short period of time. When I came out the door was locked. I have no idea why.
Second time. I was sitting in the car and the door locked. I have had vehicles with the auto lock at certain speeds but I was sitting in the driveway with the car running.
Very strange. |
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I purchased a Murano 3 weeks ago and it started locking the driver door immediately. Since I park in a garage, I usually leave it unlocked inside. On the MLK holiday I went to drop a book in the return box at the library. I jumped out and left the car running, but closed the door. You guessed it, I was locked out for an hour while I had to wait for my husband to rescue me. :x
I called the dealer and they told me it does have an automatic locking feature but it shouldn't activate with the engine running and it should lock all of the doors. I brought it in to the service dept. and they de-activated the auto lock feature but they said they couldn't figure out anything wrong. I took it into a different dealership and they kept it for two days and still could not figure it out.
I think we are looking at a recall sometime in the near future. Anybody else out there with this problem, please contact your dealer so that Nissan can get clued into this problem.
The car is locking itself at least 3 or 4 times a day.
Meanwhile, always keep your keys with you!
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| I suppose it would be worse if it kept unlocking itself! |
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Good, I'm glad I'm not alone. The funny thing is that after posting my first complaint about this, it has stopped locking itself. I still make sure I keep my keys with me though.
What on earth were the engineers thinking to design an autolock feature that isn't even speed triggered?
I will call my dealership on Monday though to complain about this and have them disable the autolock feature.
And yes, it would be worse if it was unlocking itself! :) |
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| Golfnmom, please make sure you call Nissan Customer Service directly regarding this issue. Perhaps we can get this fixed sooner rather than relying on the dealership to complain if they even do. |
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One thing I did notice (not the door locks) but the windows, would roll down all us a sudden when I was sitting in the drivers seat. (I know this is different from your locks.. )
After thinking about it.. I noticed that my watch (big and heavy) was pressing through my jacket and pressing the window switch, when I was resting my hands on the door..
[quote="Taylormade"]Has anyone else experienced the driver side door locking on its own after leaving the vehicle? After returning home on two occasions, the driver door was locked when I went back out to the car. Initially, I just thought I had inadvertently just locked it and didn't realize it. This morning, I let the vehicle warm up, and with the keys still in the ignition, ran back into the house to get something. When I came back, the door was locked again. This time I know I did not lock it myself. Fortunately, I have my extra set of keys handy to unlock it. Is this supposed to be a safety feature? My own garage or driveway is the only place I leave the car running for a short period of time. Perhaps this is to prevent someone from stealing the vehicle for those who leave their car running when they go into convenient stores?[/quote] |
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| I had the same experience with a rented Mini-van, I think it was a town country Caravan. We rented it going to the airport and plan to drop it off right there. With all our suite case inside the mini-van, I started the van to warm it up, after 2 minutes and ready to go to the airport, the van was locked. :x We were late! but made it. How? I used a slim jim. |
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| Have had mine for just over a month now and haven't encountered my driver door locking for any reason (other them myself) :D . Just added the rear deck protector and the Moonroof wind deflector :lol: ! |
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| Had this happen once - freaked me out because the keys were inside, but to my relief the rest of the doors were unlocked. |
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| I ordered my moonroof wind deflector over 2 months ago along with the rear bumper protector. Bumper protector came in in 3 weeks but still waiting for the wind deflector. Where did you get yours? I called my Nissan dealer earlier this week and was told "be patient". :cry: |
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We've had our Murano for a little over a month now and are experiencing the same problem. But luckily only the driver door lock...none of the others. I guess this will be something to report to the dealer during my next visit.
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| I had this happen three times and fortunately each time the other doors were unlocked. I reported it to the dealer and they and I now believe it is the way I open the door. The manual locking device is positioned such that I may unintentionally lock the door after I open it. Since I was made aware of this possibility, the door has not locked automatically. |
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AFter reading dgaser's response to the door locking, I got in and paid attention to how I was getting out. There is a high possibility that the way the door is opened is locking to door at times. I'll have to pay more attention to my methods....if my wife ever lets me drive it..
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| cenolar |
| I park my vehicle in a garage so I never lock it. But sometimes the next morning when I go to get in it, the door is locked. |
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| Enforcer |
There is a TSB (EL03-009 NTB03-033 April 15, 2003) on intermittant door locking, alarm sounds and window movement. Requires replacement door harness assembly.
For 2WD - Vehicles built before JN8AZ08T53W112422
For AWD - Vehicles built before JN8AZ08W33W223383
All vehicles built before March 4, 2003
Also, the doors will automatically lock within 1 minute of pressing the unlock button on the keyfob if you don't open a door or insert key into ignition. |
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| higbyz |
| I always carry a slim jim in my pocket when I intend to leave my keys in the car:2: |
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| generator |
| I had this happen to me on three seperate occasions. I got all ramped up and ordered the Factory Service Documentation CD from Nissan ($220.00 bucks....steep) to be prepared for some of these types of problems....Then I noticed something while exiting my car. The long slinky handle hugs the lock/unlock button and when pulling on this thin oddly shaped handle and THEN releasing it a portion of my palm, where my pinky is, dragged the lock button to the locked position. The button moves with little force. Thats why only the drivers side door locks. I caught myself doing it on more than one occasion. I hope this is really the culprit and not some intermittent short. |
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| Enforcer |
| Generator, if you do decide to get the SM, you can get all the TSBs and service manual for $20. Check this thread. ;) |
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| generator |
| Wait one minute here guys. I just ordered the CD for $220.00 from Nissan and you are telling me that I can get all the info on that CD by downloading it.....If that is the case I am going to see if I can send it back. Please clarify whether or not I can download the complete service manual using this method.... |
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| Enforcer |
Well...I don't know what to say...YES! Read the thread though, helps if you have high speed, ~50 files, requires persistance etc.
I bought the CD for my Z. Then somebody posted this on a Z forum. Then I paid my $20, downloaded all the TSBs, service manuals and some other stuff for the Z and MO. Compared the downloaded SM to the CD SM for the Z, and what I downloaded was newer. |
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| dmako |
Murano service manual for $20 bucks, yup.
Simply down loaded all of the PDFs (owners manual too) and burnt to a CD. |
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| generator |
| Whew!!! I just found out I could send back my Factory Service CD and get my $220.00 refunded as long as I dont break the seal on the cd. Good deal man. Now I will download the stuff pronto and then take the extra cash and buy that iPod for my Murano. Anybody figure out how to use the SAT inputs on the head unit as analog inputs for my MP3 player? |
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| Enforcer |
| Back to the door-lock issue. From the other forum we found out the dealer can set them to not lock using the Nissan Consult-II...among other things: |
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| jaak |
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Originally posted by generator
Whew!!! I just found out I could send back my Factory Service CD and get my $220.00 refunded as long as I dont break the seal on the cd. Good deal man. Now I will download the stuff pronto and then take the extra cash and buy that iPod for my Murano. Anybody figure out how to use the SAT inputs on the head unit as analog inputs for my MP3 player?
While you're at it, you can get other Nissan manuals and also log in with the same username and password on www.infiniti-techinfo.com and get manuals from there as well.
Still working on the SAT inputs. If you have a SAT you can redirect the audio from another device, but without it, someone has to create a device to emulate a SAT so the head unit will allow audio in. |
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| Yes it just happened to me in my one week old Murano. I started the car , then got out of the car for about 30 seconds, then when I tried to get back in , all the doors were locked -- key in ignition with the engine running. I have been unable to duplicate this again?? The moral of this is don't leave the key in the ignition of your Murano, unless you're in there with it!! From previous posts I suspect there is a random problem with the door locking system. By the way, I think this is a great car. |
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| pkhona |
Hi All,
The famous door locking problem happened to me today. Luckily was still in garage and hence had easy access to my spare - else I would have had to call AAA. When I got off , I made sure that door was not closed.
This definately is a random problem as I have never seen this before.
Looking at this and other random problem I had of car braking itself hard, I am really suspecting Nissan Murano's computer's firmware code. Most of the problems go away by turning the engine off - as if resetting the computer makes the problem go-away.
I am begining to suspect their QA and testing for the electronics/electrical systems is not upto standard . Or since murano was announced long back , they might have sacrificed on their testing to hit the market soon. In any case , it doesn't reflect good on their testing methodology. I hate to see products introduced to market with "bugs".
Though I love the car for its engine , power and comfort , I am really disappointed with their electronics system. I definately will consider thrice before looking at any new Nissan product because of this.
pkhona
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| generator |
| The easiest way to see if the car really has a problem is do this: Everytime you unlock your car with your remote press the unlock key twice to make sure all doors are unlocked. The next time the doors lock by themselves take note: Did ALL the doors lock or did just the drivers side door lock? If it's just the drivers side door then you have encountered the bad ergonomic design of the door lock/handle (see previous posts and Nissan TSB's about this problem and inadvertently locking the door when releasing the handle) and you must be more careful when exiting the car. I know...I am mad too but Rome was not built in a day...now that you know you WILL be more observant. If all the doors locked then you may have an electronic problem. Everytime my door locked it was only the drivers side door (luckily the other doors were unlocked) and I caught myself locking the door by mistake when pulling the handle and pushing the door open. I would also suggest making a flat copy of your key and put it behind your license plate ( I held mine in place with the license plate screw ) |
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| stevce |
This is what happend to me step by step.
1. I was in the car going to a gas station with ALL doors locked.
2. I got out of the car to pump gas. I opened the driver door to get out. All other doors were locked except the driver door.
3. While pumping gas for a minute, I heard the door lock automatically. The keys were in my loose jacket with no pressure on the "lock" button (but I can't exactly prove that).
The door electronics locked it after about 1min.
Thank god I had the keys with me.
I'm not buying the ergonomics of the door handle/lock. I actually heard the door lock by itself with no one in the car.
Next time I will try the same with all doors unlocked. It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does its eiry. |
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| generator |
| It seems you may have an electronics problem then. I think the Muarano has an auto re-lock feature built into its alarm system. If the doors are locked and unlocked later the doors will lock within a minute if the engine is not started. Does not seem to be the case with your scenario though. There is a TSB at Nisaan's website regarding an electrical harness that may be bad on a certain number of Murano's. I have attached the TSB. |
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| pkhona |
Hi Generator,
I tried the experiment that you suggested , all the doors closed all the times after some time. I stood by the car during all the experiments. I would expect doors to lock when I start the engine , not when its matter of simple unlocking. I know that there is a TSB for this.
Also I am surprised that Nissan cannot even get this simple design correct first time and only after field deployment they realised this problem. Agreed new products have problems , but such obivious ones are not expected for a $34k product and that too from a reputed company like nissan.
I am taking car to the dealer and get this fixed asap.
Regards,
pkhona |
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| darrylburke |
Wow.. and here I thought I was just imagining it..
it's happens to me about 2/month.. usualy when I'm going to get the mail..
1) all doors are unlocked..
2) I stop the car..
3) open the doos as usual (it's unlocked by default, since when I opened the doors originally)
4) get out..
5) by the time I get back 1 min later.. the driver (and only the driver door) is locked..
The first two times it happened, I had my keys still in the ignition, (not running) since then I've learned to take them with me.. |
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| darrylburke |
| anyone download the manuals and TSBs from the site yet?? |
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| stevce |
Darryl, same thing happens to me, but I actually hear the car lock. Can you hear it, or does your driver side door just happen to be locked when you return?
It's rare and happens to me usually while getting mail or gas. |
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| generator |
| Darrylburke: This is the exact scenario that drove me crazy when I first got my murano. The drivers side door was always locking. But upon close inspection I found I was locking the door inadvertently. Try it. You will see that if your hand is positioned near the lock your hand will swivel the lock closed when pulling the handle and then thrusting the door open. Bad bad Nissan. They have been making cars for how long? They should have seen this one coming. |
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| rainbowfarm |
I will have to check out that door lock position when I pick up my MO this week, but...
I work in systems design (computer telephony), and it's easy to blame the designers after the fact for failing to predict every possible effect/result on a product that has never existed before.
Sure, cars have existed, but have you ever seen anything depart so radically and so suddenly as the Murano does?
If that's the only problem I have to deal with, I'll survive it.
I love my Nissan dealer, but if Toyota had made the Murano, Nissan would have lost my business!
I have asked them to check the door locks prior to delivery, but if they don't, I will have two keys (one is always in my pocket) and two remote fobs. I think I'll make a pendant out of the second one, and hang it around my neck. I'll call it Albatross. |
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| darrylburke |
I've never heard the "click" of the locks going,, so it might be my hand inadvantanly pressing the lock. I'll have to be more carefull..
I check my "hand placement" when opening the lock and pushing the door open.. it doesn't see to close to the lock..
one idea that just came to mind.. I figure that if its' my hand that is hitting the lock. more then likley it's just brushing it enough to lock (but not press the lock in completly..)
I'm going to try and put some liquid paper (a stripe) on the side of the lock.. and scrap it off so when the lock is press completly down, you can't see the white.. and if you press it half way it will show..
this way next time it happens, I can walk over to the other side of the car and see if the white is showing or not.. |
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| pkhona |
Hi darrylburke,
When I conducted Generator's suggested experiement , I was standing besides the car and definately every time it happened , I heard a distinct click sound. I went and checked all doors , and they were shut. I would again unlock the doors - manually check them twice to make sure that I didn't advertently closed the doors and repeated the expt. same results.
I plan to do the same expt. again. I didn't have time to take the car to the dealer yet. This time I am going to maintain a written log and procedure of what I am doing so that dealer doesn't shrug it off like last problem I had , which was very severe and couldn't be duplicated at dealership.
Overall the car performs nicely in terms of mechanicals go , but nowadays electronic stability is of prime importance.
I would agree with rb that designer cannot anticipate all the problems in the world , however I would expect that they should have sound QA team which should trap this problems before it leaves for field. I work as a designer for the Storage systems and data corruption is a zero tolerance for us. In analogus manner, I would consider electronic bugs in cars as a zero tolerance too as it could compromise the safety of the vehicle and the passenger(s) it was carrying. No wonder BMW and Volvo charge hefty for their products.
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| Enforcer |
:confused:
Maybe it's just me, I have been reading your posts really hard but I don't think I understand. Let me see if I understand...
What generator is saying is when you open the door by pulling on the handle and then pushing the door open with the back of your hand or removing your hand from the handle, you hit the lock lever (picture attached). But just hitting it shouldn't do anything, you would have to push the lever closed, correct?
Depending on the possible ECU settings (shown in a previous post on this thread), the default (from factory) condition is for the doors to automatically lock after one minute of pressing the unlock button on the keyfob, unless (according to the owners manual) you open any door or turn the ignition to on. So pkhona, are you saying that during your test you hit the unlock on the keyfob, then opened a door and then it locked itself?
The doors should never lock by themselves when the engine is running. This is definitely the problem stated in the TSB.
darrylburke...YES, twice! (first time i had corrupted pages, reinstalled acrobat and downloaded again, all is fine now).
Finally, the TSB calls for the replacement of a wiring harness in the door if the existing one is corroded. This is probably not a quality issue and is not an electronics issue. It is a design issue. I suspect the replacement cable fixes the problem (connector seal or something) but I have not verified it. If anyone has this TSB applied to their vehicle, please ask to see the original and the new cable to verify. Take pictures if you can and post em.
And one final note about the TSB. The troubleshooting procedure calls for the mechanic/technician to replicate the problem by driving the car over bumps. This implies the corroded connector in combination with vibration causes the problem. I do not believe that is always the case. Corroded connectors can cause problems without vibration. But be aware, that is what the TSB tells them to do. |
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| generator |
| I am sorry enforcer if I am not being clear on my findings. I know it sounds weird. I will try to clarify. See attached photos. This may only be happening to me because I have fat hands. |
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| Enforcer |
Thats a great pic, better than the one I forgot to post. :rolleyes:
Thanks! |
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| pkhona |
Hi Enforcer,
Let me state the problem first and then expt. conducted :
Problem
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*) I had unlocked the car and opened the door.
*) Put the key in the ingnition
*) Stepped out of the car for small errand. Had made sure the door was not locked.
*) When I returned , the door was locked.
*) Had to use the spare.
Expt
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*) Unlock the car - all doors
*) Check if the doors are unlocked by opening them
*) Unlocking them again thru key fob.
*) Wait for some time .
*) Doors close lock again.
Looks like hitting the keyfob again in the expt. triggered the timer - as per factory settings.
If that's the case then I agree its a design problem. However when I encountered the problem first time , it was harness issue.
As far as doors locking when engine starts , that's FORD / GM feature - which is very much acceptable.
Regards,
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| Enforcer |
Hey pkhona!
Yep, when you get a chance, do this:
Separate key and fob.
Put key in ignition.
Get out with fob and close door.
Press unlock on fob. |
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| graydonl |
I am having the same door lock problem as reported by others.
I have learned to shut off the motor and to take the key with me. Several times I was left loutside ooking in with the door locked and the motor running. Strange sinking feeling!
Most times it is just the driver door but yesterday (and other days) all four doors locked with my wife's purse (and car key) were inside. Luckily I had mine in my pocket |
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| Enforcer |
| graydonl, take it to the dealer and quote the TSB if they act stupid. And if they still act stupid, call NNA. |
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| graydonl |
I took my MO into the Nissan dealer this morning along with a copy of TSB (EL03-009 NTB03-033 April 15, 2003) . They took off the door panel and found no corrosion and were unable to duplicate the door lock problem. My driver side door was locked when I went out to drive it over; so the intermittant problem is there. How do you convince the dealer?
I did get my oil changed - 3063 miles so it wasn't a wasted trip |
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| rival |
| I was not having the door lock problem until I was showing my friend how I could put the windows down by holding the unlock button on the key fob. Just to see if I could put the windows up with the key fob, I held the door lock button on the key fob for maybe 20-30 seconds, and then my drivers side door started locking. The drivers door locked on me twice, within about 30 seconds after leaving the Murano. When I got home I held the door lock button on the key fob again for 20-30 seconds and I have not had the problem since then. Not sure if this will help anyone out, good luck. |
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| graydonl |
| I tried it but it didn't work for me. The car locked itself about 4 times this morning!! |
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| wheeling |
| This happened to me today with a twist. I was washing my MO and I'm sure all doors were unlocked. But 5 min later, the drivers door was locked. I checked other doors again, they were all unlocked. I used my remote to unlock the door when I noticed a strange thing, the driver's seat moved to the memorized position and then moved back all the way. Based on the manual, the seat should only move when the key is in the ignition. Looks like there is a bug in the program. Does this happened to anyone else? |
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| rainbowfarm |
What should happen is:
1. You press fob to unlock door.
2. Seat goes all the way back for ease of entry.
3. Once key enters ignition, seat resumes the fob position (1 or 2, based on fob programming).
If it was already in "your" position, then it would not have had to "go" to your position, then all the way back. It would go all the way back, though, as a result of the unlock command from the remote. |
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| wheeling |
| I understand what you are saying. That is the normal operation of the memorized seat. However, in my situation, the seat moved without the key in ignition. That is not normal! |
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| jpburk |
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Originally posted by wheeling
I understand what you are saying. That is the normal operation of the memorized seat. However, in my situation, the seat moved without the key in ignition. That is not normal!
Actually, it is normal, if you (or someone) have programmed the keyfob to do so. You can program the keyfob to reset the seats, mirrors, and pedals to the first or second memory position when you unlock the doors, and the key doesn't need to be in the ignition for this to happen. Any chance that's the case here?
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| rainbowfarm |
| Moving to your position is not normal. |
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| jpburk |
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Originally posted by rainbowfarm
Moving to your position is not normal.
Yes, it is. Maybe we're talking about different things, but the following is directly from the owner's manual, in the section on using the memory function for the seats, outside mirrors, and pedals:
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Push the SET switch and, within 5 seconds, push the memory switch 1 or 2 fully for at least 1 second.
The indicator light for the pushed memory switch will come on and stay on for approximately 5 seconds after pushing the switch.
After the indicator light goes off, the selected positions are stored in the selected memory (1 or 2). Pushing the unlock button on the keyfob within this 5 seconds, will link the selected memory to the keyfob.
When the link is completed, the indicator light of the selected memory switch will blink for approximately 5 seconds.
When you unlock the door with the link completed keyfob, the driver’s seat will move back and move to the memorized position.
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| rainbowfarm |
When you push the remote, the seat goes all the way back to facilitate your entry into the vehicle.
When you put the key into the ignition, the car (it's intelligent) figures that you are sitting in the seat, and then it moves to your position. |
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| hfelknor |
I'm gonna come outa "retirement" on this one.
maybe it's a Canadian/US thing.
But........when you say.........
"When you push the remote, the seat goes all the way back to facilitate your entry into the vehicle."
It absolutely does NOT do this.:)
It went back when you stopped the car and removed the key to facilitate your exit from the vehicle..
It stayed back. It will stay back forever if you never put the key in the ignition again.
When you hit the remote to lock the car nothing happens to the seat. Nothing. It stays back.
When you hit the button to unlock the car NOTHING happens to the seat. It is STILL all the way back from the last time you removed the key.
Now when you insert the key it moves to your (Key fob) location.
At least that is GUARANTEED the way that it works on my Car.
The REMOTE does NOT move the seat in any direction under any conditions.
Probably a bad time to point out that you can disable the seat from ever moving back to the enter/exit position..........
Homer
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| jpburk |
I'm guessing that you haven't programmed your keyfob with your seat memory. If you have, and if you've been paying attention to what happens when you insert/remove the key vs. unlocking the doors with the keyfob, here's what you would find:
Assuming that you have the option enabled, inserting the key into the ignition moves the seat forward to the most recent forward position (either set by a Seat Memory assignment or manually set).
Removing the key from the ignition moves the seat back to the rearmost position.
If the seat, outside mirrors, and/or pedals have been adjusted away from Seat Memory 1 (assuming the keyfob has been programmed to Seat Memory 1), inserting/removing the key does nothing to the adjustments except to move the seat forward/backward. However, pressing the unlock button on the keyfob readjusts all settings to the Seat Memory 1 position. The seat will remain in the rearmost position just as it was when you exited the car, and inserting the key in the ignition will then move the seat forward to the position memorized in Seat Memory 1. I haven't tried it yet, but I would guess that, if you have disabled the option to have the seat move back for easy exit/entry upon removal of the key in the ignition, pressing the unlock button on the keyfob would return the seat to the memorized forward position.
Therefore, it is normal for the driver's seat to move to "your position" (where "your position" = Seat Memory 1, as in the above scenario) when you press the unlock button on the keyfob.
Now, whether this has anything to do with what the poster was experiencing, I have no idea! :)
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| mikey |
Homer is correct ( at least on Gold MOs) checked mine and it works just as he discribed. Had drivers door lock 3 time but think it's what generator discribed.
OH...nice to see you out of "retirement" Homer, stick around. |
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| jpburk |
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Originally posted by hfelknor
I'm gonna come outa "retirement" on this one.
Glad to see you "unretiring," Homer!
I don't know if it's a Canadian vs. US version thing or not, but pressing the unlock button on the keyfob did, indeed, make a bunch of changes to the position of the seat when I went out to the garage to play with it a bit just now. I've memorized my settings to Seat Memory 1 and have programmed my keyfob to Seat Memory 1. I got in the car, inserted the key and turned the key to the ON position. I readjusted the seat away from the memorized positions (moved it forward, leaned the seat back, raised the seat, and tilted it forward). I removed the key and the seat slid back to the rearmost position. I put the key back in the ignition, and the seat slid to the forward position I had just set manually. I removed the key again and exited the car. I then pressed the unlock button on the keyfob, and I watched as the seat completely repositioned itself (except for the horizontal position, as it stayed in the rearmost position as it should) to the Seat Memory 1 settings. Yes, this is what passes for fun in North Central Florida! :)
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| rainbowfarm |
If the fob was programmed (as Jeff copied from manual), then the seat would move into position on key insertion.
One question I would have then would be...
since the door locked itself, did it also move the seat back for easy exit (if it screwed up one bit of programmed action, did it also screw up another related action).
Seat goes back when I remove the key (probably). I don't pay much attention.
It is probably in the manual, but I would assume that... if the seat were not fully back, then it would do that when you open door, unlock... something or other that indicates that you're getting into the car. |
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| dklanecky1 |
I'm with Homer on this one, as that's exactly how mine works as well.
Nothing moves forward (seat wise) until the key hits the ignition switch. Ditto on the removal of the key, then the seat moves back (if so enabled in the driver information center).
It was pretty funny (well not really) when I (6') accidentlly grabbbed my wifes (5') keys and put that sucker in the ignition. I thought I was going to be crushed by the Murano! |
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| wheeling |
Let me explain one more time what happened, and I still don't think it was a normal operation.
I pregrammed my kfob to link with the seat memory and it has been working fine. On the day when I was washing my MO and the driver door locked itself, I exited the car normally and the seat was already in the far back position. When I noticed the locked drive's door, I used my kfob to unlock it, when I notice, with the kfob in my hand and outside the car, that the seat moved forward and then back again. I didn't move the seat position mannually after I exited the car. That means the grogram either reset itself or has a bug, right? |
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| rainbowfarm |
That was the one thing I wondered about... whether you actually noticed the seat go first forward, and then back.
That is not usual.
Now you have two odd things to report.
But... if they stop it from locking itself, then I suppose it would also not move the seat when it not locks itself if you catch my drift.
I have to get my door fixed, and the hood repainted, and the 2nd version of the bug smasher installed. Lotsa fun. I still love the MO. It's like my dogs overbite... the flaw makes it kinda cute... as long as they fix it!
But I am very careful about fobbing at all times, and unlocking all doors when I open the car... just in case. |
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| ekaxel |
I may be dense, but I don't understand why anyone would want the seat in a foreward position when trying to get into the car. I always thought having the seat all the way back was intended to make it easier to get in (out).
As an aside, what bothers me is that the seat goes back, but not down. Tall people would appreciate it going down as well so they don't hit their heads. |
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| ter_j |
| i have experience this door lock automatically when my car was running. but when going through the setting i noticed that there was a setting for auto door lock if you scroll down in the menu. No body know what that does at the dealer though. i was told that Nissan doesn't have a feature that automatically locks the door when you put it in drive so i have a feeling it might be related. since i changed it i have not had my doors lock. |
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| mldva101 |
| I had a problem over the weekend with the doors locking mysteriously on their own.....stopped to get gas, and shut the car off, but left keys in ignition. All the doors were locked when I went to get back in. Luckily a nice day, and nice people around to help. I had left my windown down about an inch and a half, so attendent was able to stick a "grabber" device down and unlock the door. So, two strikes on this year old car, this plus the alternator problem. HMMMM........:( |
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| rainbowfarm |
First they used the old Maxima technical bulletin, which did not fix the door locking issue.
Then they replaced the actuator in the driver's door, the only one that locks itself.
Last week, they replaced the wiring inside the door. I left, stopped (engine running is when this happens), got out... door locked itself.
I keep telling them that the problem has to be in the computer, which I maintain.
I may just give up every having it repaired. |
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| zebelkhan |
I stongly believe that the automatic locking has more to do with the hand hitting or touching the door lock button than anything else.
The reason I say that is because of the following:
On many occasions when getting back to my car, I noticed the driver side door was locked when I was sure I had not locked it myself. I pull up on the outside door handle once and the door is locked. I pull on it twice, and I "feel" that the handle "catches" something and the door opens! Now this does not happen all the time but it tells me that the door was not locked because of problems with its electronics otherwise it would have been fully locked. The fact that the door was "partially" locked tells me that somehow I must have pushed the lock button in half way (very likely as I have paid attention to how I open the door and I hit it for sure) or the button moves on its own when I slam the door shut (very unlikely as it never happens when I manully pull up on the lock button before leaving the car).
Somewhere in another thread someone suggested to pop the door panel and actually disconnect the driver side inside lock button from its lever and I think that soleved the problem for that member. I have not done that but am seriously thinking about it. |
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| rainbowfarm |
quote:
Originally posted by zebelkhan
I stongly believe that the automatic locking has more to do with the hand hitting or touching the door lock button than anything else.
You may continue to believe that if you wish, and maybe that is what YOUR car is doing, but I stand outside of mine with the door TESTED open, and I could count off the seconds until the ELECTRIC lock triggers and I can hear it lock the door.
I have spent a great deal of time and effort checking this out, and until somebody checks the computer programming (what else can tell the lock to activate?)...
I cannot buy this "I must have hit the lock" business. |
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| Snow MO |
quote:
Originally posted by rainbowfarm
You may continue to believe that if you wish, and maybe that is what YOUR car is doing, but I stand outside of mine with the door TESTED open, and I could count off the seconds until the ELECTRIC lock triggers and I can hear it lock the door.
I have spent a great deal of time and effort checking this out, and until somebody checks the computer programming (what else can tell the lock to activate?)...
I cannot buy this "I must have hit the lock" business.
That's really wild...and frustrating.
Have any of you also ever noticed that if you have your door open with the car running that you cannot lock (with the door lock button) the doors? As soon as you hit the button it automatically unlocks them. I usually lock my little brother in the car when I stop at the ATM and have him unlock it when I come back...doesn't work here unless I power lock all doors, open my door, manually lock it and close the door. But I digress... |
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| rainbowfarm |
quote:
Originally posted by Snow MO
Have any of you also ever noticed that if you have your door open with the car running that you cannot lock (with the door lock button) the doors?
Your procedure is very interesting. Try this: lock the door with the remote (with engine running). It works, and that is how I lock people into the car... just kidding... I lock it that way for similar reasons.
The unlock is to prevent you from accidentally locking yourself out of the car (which you do not need because the MO does it for you, thanks to this bug). |
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| Snow MO |
quote:
Originally posted by rainbowfarm
Your procedure is very interesting. Try this: lock the door with the remote (with engine running). It works, and that is how I lock people into the car... just kidding... I lock it that way for similar reasons.
The unlock is to prevent you from accidentally locking yourself out of the car (which you do not need because the MO does it for you, thanks to this bug).
I didn't know the remote would be able to lock the doors with the engine running...does it work with the door ajar?
I will try that today. |
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| rainbowfarm |
quote:
Originally posted by Snow MO
I didn't know the remote would be able to lock the doors with the engine running...does it work with the door ajar?
It sure does work with the door ajar. You know how it does not beep if all doors are not fully closed? Well, with engine running, it also does not beep (the horn of the car). |
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| Richie |
:jester: This is not my actual experience, I borrowed it from another web-site. Both my wife and I enjoyed it so I thought I would share it and maybe someone else will too. I have no idea what brand of dealership they are referring to.
When my wife and I arrived at the automobile dealership to pick up our car, we were told the keys had been locked in it. We went to the service department and found a mechanic working feverishly to unlock the driver's side door. As I watched from the passenger side, I decided to try the door handle and discovered that the passenger door was unlocked. "Hey," I announced to the mechanic, "This one is open!" To which he replied, "I know - I already got that side." |
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| GripperDon |
| Must have been at Pinnacle Nissan! |
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| graydonl |
| I went out to start my 2003 MO in the garage and found all four doors locked and the two front windows rolled down! I know, I know.. Nissan has a fix; but my local (and only) Nissan dealer "can't reproduce the problem". Sound familiar!! Oh well, I carry the valet key in my wallet for emergeny unlocking! |
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| graydonl |
No, neither the battery or alternator have been replaced.
Like you, my car doors are generally locked when I go out to start the car. They were this morning. Like you I don't lock the doors of the MO in the garage.
This was the first time that the two front windows were down.
I have always had the problem of doors locking if you are foolish enough to step out leaving the motor running to, say, mail a letter or return a library book or move a slow-moving turtle out of the roadway. Sometimes it's the driver's door and other times all four doors lock! So I carry the valet key with me.
About a month ago I was working in the garage and MO gave a brief horn toot and all doors locked!
This is the ONLY complaint I have with this 2003 MO and I've learned to live with it. The local (small Georgia town) Nissan dealer says they just don't sell and service enough MO's to have the experience to diagnose and fix the problem. |
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| zebelkhan |
If you find the doors locked and the windows down check your keyfobs to see if one of them is at fault. When I use my keyfob to roll the windows down but do not open any doors, it automatically locks the doors after a preset amount of time (but does not roll the windows back up) This is pretty much in line with what is happening with yours so maybe it is not the MO, but the keyfob that is sending the commands when it is not supposed to.
Or as it happened to me once, someone is having fun with you by playing with the remotes from inside the house when you are working on the car???
Another possibility, someone close by has a remote that operates on the same frequency as yours!!! Try reprograming your fobs to see if that solves the problem.. |
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| graydonl |
| How do I reprogram my FOB's on a 2003 MO? You're dealing with a 72 year old so please be patient!! |
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| zebelkhan |
quote:
Originally posted by graydonl
How do I reprogram my FOB's on a 2003 MO? You're dealing with a 72 year old so please be patient!!
Well, I am not too far behind.....Thanks for reminding me!!
Here is a picture of the page from the Service Manual. Hopefully it will be readable. |
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| Gonzo |
graydonl,
Unless I'm missing something I don't think there is anything wrong... I would be willing to be that somehow... perhaps while the fob was in your pocket the unlock button was held (resulting in windows down) and the lock was pressed (locking the doors).
Maybe??? |
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| zebelkhan |
quote:
Originally posted by Gonzo
graydonl,
Unless I'm missing something I don't think there is anything wrong... I would be willing to be that somehow... perhaps while the fob was in your pocket the unlock button was held (resulting in windows down) and the lock was pressed (locking the doors).
Maybe???
The lock button does not even have to be pressed. Once the fob is used to roll the windows down with the door closed, the alarm is automatically reset so if you do not open any doors, they will lock and the alarm will be activated within the preset amount of time. So basically, all that needed to happen was for something to hold the unlock button on the fob down for a few seconds. |
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| Gonzo |
| You are right zebelkhan, thanks. |
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| graydonl |
| Thanks for all the inputs guys! I got a great laugh out of a couple of them - super sense of humor! I'll try a few of the ideas and see how things go. Still a great vehicle - even for an old codger! |
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| wworthy |
| Hi just wondering if there has been a proven solution to the driverside door automatically locking. I read through most of the entires but wasn't sure if there was an answer. I'm taking mine in tomorrow and it's been proven with my dealership that if I don't have an answer then the problem really doesn't exist. Thanks |
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| zebelkhan |
In my case, and many others, bad inside door handle results in the lock button being pushed in when we open the door. When I pay attention, I never get locked out. Other than that, there is no solution unless you disconnect the little rod that goes from that lock button to the lock itself, making it a non-working lock button. You can still lock the doors with the fob, or the power lock button from inside.
There is however a TSB out on this issue for those that actually have a defective door wire harness or lock control module. To keep the MO from unnecessarily being taken apart, I recommend paying attention to the way your hand hits the door when you open it from inside. If you are convinced that it is not you, then take it to the dealer for the fix. |
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| KSmurano |
wworthy - trust me, if you think the car is doing it, it probablly is.
After getting locked out twice & then having the TSB applied it has never happened again! |
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| wworthy |
| What's a TSB? I'm almost positive it's not me. If I unlock all the other doors it will just lock the drivers door but if I forget to unlock the others - I'm out another $65 for lock out service. I've only did it twice with the car running but the back doors were unlock so I just crawled over the seat but this weekend I was at the gas station and forgot to unlock so I could fill up and ended up waiting an hour and a half. I love the car but this is just frustrating. |
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| zebelkhan |
quote:
Originally posted by wworthy
What's a TSB? I'm almost positive it's not me. If I unlock all the other doors it will just lock the drivers door but if I forget to unlock the others - I'm out another $65 for lock out service. I've only did it twice with the car running but the back doors were unlock so I just crawled over the seat but this weekend I was at the gas station and forgot to unlock so I could fill up and ended up waiting an hour and a half. I love the car but this is just frustrating.
TSB is Technical Service Buletin, and tells the dealer how to fix a particular problem.
From your description, it could be you! The lock button needs a very small push to engage. It may look unlocked but it will internally lock once you slam the door shut...:D |
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| wworthy |
quote:
Originally posted by zebelkhan
TSB is Technical Service Buletin, and tells the dealer how to fix a particular problem.
From your description, it could be you! The lock button needs a very small push to engage. It may look unlocked but it will internally lock once you slam the door shut...:D
Thanks - I'll play with it tonight to see (of course with the other keys in hand). |
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| Gonzo |
| Sounds like you need the TSB... same thing happened to me... and from time to time I do see that I accidentally lock the door on my way out. Yikes! |
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