| Nyper |
My wife just sent me a message saying she locked the keys in the car.
The car ('09 SL) has the upgraded keyless entry with the buttons on the door handles. She manually pushed the lock button on the door itself when she got out, thinking the keys were in her purse.
She's in class now, and can't get back to the vehicle for a couple hours. She didn't realize she did this until she had already taken the bus to class.
Can you just walk up and push the button on the door handle to unlock the car if the keys are in the vehicle? Like.. in the console?
If so, somebody could easily just steal the car I suppose! If not, we have to go to the dealership and get another key! (this was a loaner vehicle while we wait on ours haha) |
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| Nyper |
ahhh... dumb question... but here's the answer in case anyone else is curious. (work with a guy who has a new nissan with the intelligent key system as well)
If you lock the doors by pressing the lock button on the inside of the vehicle (like my wife did), you are indeed out of luck and locked out. |
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| shelland |
I can't speak for 09, but assume they work the same as previous years (but I could be wrong).
The external button is disabled if the key fob is inside the car. I assume that is a safety measure to keep yourself from locking yourself out accidentally. That doesn't help much if she locked using the door button inside. That being said, if the key fob is still sitting inside the car, the external button would be disabled - in this case with the car locked.
Ever since I've had keyless entry (let along the intelligent key), I never lock the car using anything but the keyless option (or external button in the case of the intelligent key). |
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| jkster107 |
I think my wife and I have hit the external button with my keys at home and hers in the purse. I'm pretty sure it "yelled" at us (beep beep beep beep) to let us know that we hadn't done something right. We never use the internal lock buttons either unless we see somebody creepy near the car when we're driving.
It's good to know that it is possible to lock your keys in there... we haven't done it (yet!) but I'll keep an eye out for it from now on. Good luck retrieving the keys! |
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| Eye Pod |
| JUst ran a test on my 09 LE with intellikey or whatever it is called. If you leave the key fob in the car and then lock with the internal button the car goes beep-beep-beep. However, you are hosed at that point because the car does lock and the external button is deactivated. (I guess Nissan thinks being locked out is better than having someone possibly steal your car?). My question: At this point if you approach the car with the second fob, can you unlock with the external button? |
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| LeMurano |
| OK, I'm not sure I want to try and lock myself out :) but if you approach with the second fob and the electronics dont work to unlock the car then pullout the regular key stored in the fob and do it the old fashioned way! |
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| red kiosk |
I thought the key (inside the fob) is only for the glove box. I don't think there is anywhere else to stick a key, inside or outside. No inside door lock plungers also. At least once a year I was snaking a bent coat hanger inside our Chrysler minivan. Worst case was many years ago when my daughter was 2 years old (now 16). She's in the child seat, car is running, I bring some of my wife's bags out to the car (including her purse with her keys) and closed the door. I must gave bumped the inside lock button, because my wife and I are standing outside a locked, running van, in 15 degree weather with our daughter and all the keys inside. Only did that trick once. Take care!
Jim |
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| Eye Pod |
| On the 09 LE, the mechanical key also operates the external door lock (there really is one). So I guess that you can always unlock with the second fob (using the key) regardless of the scenario. |
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| red kiosk |
Thanks for the correction. You're right, there it is on the driver's door, I totally missed it. Take care!
Jim |
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| shelland |
quote:
However, you are hosed at that point because the car does lock and the external button is deactivated. (I guess Nissan thinks being locked out is better than having someone possibly steal your car?).
This is my interpretation, so I certainly could be wrong -
I think it is deactivated with the fob inside the car so that you don't accidentally leave the fob in the car, which means someone could literally drive away with your car (in the unlikely event that they tried). The car beeps when you press the handle button to make you aware that the fob is still inside. My thought is that they assume you will actually use the handle button (or remote button) if you have the intelligent key, and not the internal button. This feature isn't to screw you by locking your fob inside, it's an attempt to keep you from locking it inside in the first place.
With the first keyless entry I got several years ago, I made myself stop using the internal lock button to make sure I didn't have any 'key accidents'. I do not lock the doors with the internal controls - period. (unless I happen to be driving and want to lock them for some reason - then I have to unlock them to get out)
And the key inside the fob not only works the door and glove box locks, but will start the car as well. (at least it does on the pre-09's) |
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| LeMurano |
| Unless there is someplace other than the FOB bay to put a key inside, I don't see how the key inside the FOB would start the car... If the FOB's battery dies, then the bay lights flash and after inserting the FOB in he bay the car will start (won't charge the FOB though as some might think). |
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| shelland |
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Originally posted by LeMurano
Unless there is someplace other than the FOB bay to put a key inside, I don't see how the key inside the FOB would start the car...
I've done it myself (on an '06 - maybe the '09 is different).
EDIT: I forgot - the '09 has the push button start, doesn't it. Maybe it is different than the older models... |
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| Nyper |
My test results.... :)
My wife's '09 Murano, and friend's '08 Altima:
- Place key fob in center console / cup holder area.
- Open the door
- Press the inside door lock button (the button by the window controls)
- Shut the door.
The car does not beep at us, and we are officially locked out. We had to go in the house and get the other fob.
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My Mom's '07 Murano:
- Place key fob in center console / cup holder area.
- Open the door.
- Press the inside door lock button (the button by the window controls)
The door immediately unlocks itself and will not allow you to lock yourself out.
grrrrrrrrrrr |
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| Mr3Putt |
I have a key hidden in my suspension. It won't start the car, but it will get me back inside.
I locked myself out twice, both times while playing golf. The first time it happened the AAA guy had to do a telephone consult as it was the first Murano he had ever opened.
Now I have an extra fob in my golf bag. They are cheap for the pre '09's. |
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| LeMurano |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mr3Putt
I have a key hidden in my suspension. It won't start the car, but it will get me back inside.
I locked myself out twice, both times while playing golf. The first time it happened the AAA guy had to do a telephone consult as it was the first Murano he had ever opened.
Now I have an extra fob in my golf bag. They are cheap for the pre '09's. [/QUOTE
:1pat: My LE's only 2 weeks old and although I haven't been there yet, I've been close! Just a matter of time I think! I saw 09 fobs at about $50 each, probably a good investment to keep one in my briefcase as well as my pocket and who know where else until I get used to this no key thing :) |
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| cwirth |
quote:
Originally posted by Nyper
My test results.... :)
My wife's '09 Murano, and friend's '08 Altima:
- Place key fob in center console / cup holder area.
- Open the door
- Press the inside door lock button (the button by the window controls)
- Shut the door.
The car does not beep at us, and we are officially locked out. We had to go in the house and get the other fob.
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My Mom's '07 Murano:
- Place key fob in center console / cup holder area.
- Open the door.
- Press the inside door lock button (the button by the window controls)
The door immediately unlocks itself and will not allow you to lock yourself out.
grrrrrrrrrrr
I have an '09 Murano. I was curious about the topic of being able to get locked out so I duplicated your test procedures.
I was not able to get locked out. I put my extra key fob in the cup holder. I then got out of the car and pressed the lock button just like you did. As soon as I closed the door I heard a series of about 10 fast beeps coming from somewhere in the engine compartment. Then immediately all the door unlocked.
I made sure my other key fob was no where near the vehicle. I then took the key fob from the cup holders and put it in the middle of the back seat and tried the test again. The same results. The beeping and all the doors unlocked.
I don't know why my Murano works but this is the way it should. I find it hard to believe that Nissan would change this feature on the '09. I tried this test several times and it worked every time.
I just checked the owner's manual and on page 3-6 there is a section titled Lockout Protection. Here is what it says about lockout protection:
"With the Intelligent Key left in the vehicle (not in the key port) and any door open, all doors will unlock automatically and a chime will sound after the door is closed. These functions help to prevent the key from being accidentally locked inside the vehicle." |
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| red kiosk |
Not that this is what I want to happen, but I have tried everything under the sun to create procedure for locking myself out of an 09" Murano LE… I just CANNOT DO IT! The car will not let me lock myself out, no matter what button I push (inside handle lever, rocker switch lock, or outside handle button) leaving the keys inside. It always beeps (rapidly and for or quite a while) letting me know something is wrong. Is it a time limit thing if you ignore the beeps? (haven't tried that yet, just thought of that now). How can anybody with an 09" Murano lock themselves out? I just want to know if it is possible, for if it is, I want to make sure I don't do the same thing and end up locked out of the car. If you can or have done it, please let me know how you did it. Thanks and take care!
Jim |
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| Old Grumpy |
| I have also tried every procedure I can think of and my LE will not let the doors lock if the fob is in the car. |
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| Eye Pod |
| I just tried to lock myself out (again) and I could not. Same results as Red. BUT, I swear when I tried this before I DID lock myself out. Could the Intellikey be intermittent depending on signal conditions? |
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