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NEw prob - Battery light and brake light went on??!?!?!? - Click HERE for Original Thread
elansp
While driving along today at a lesuirely pace, both lights went on. Brake was definitely not depressed. I stoped the car, pressed the brake all the way in then disengaged, no joy. Turned the car off then back on and both lights are still on.

I checked the TSB and nothing is mentioned. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance,
hfelknor
You have a bad alternator.
Get it to the dealer before your battery goes all the way down and strands you.


Homer
elansp
Could the alternator really go after 2700 miles? I guess it can be defective...but that's really embarrasing for Nissan....any guestimate as to how long I can fly with a battery that is not getting recharged?

My Toyota Camry has 175k and original alternator. I did replace the belt around 25,000 miles ago.
Doombringer
There's been a batch of bad alternators...

I guess it's not enough for a recall. I have 11k on my MO and no alternator problem, whereas others are having them at around 2k miles. :/
hfelknor
There is more chance IMO, of an alternator going in the first 2700 miles than at an other time.

I take it you Camry engine did not go bad as many Toyota engines did.
Even Camrys fail.

No one can estimate with any accuracy how long your battery will last without being recharged.


I would characterize it with two words.
"Not long."

Homer
elansp
Thanks - reason I ask re distance is the closest Nissan dealership is approx. 4 - 5 miles away. I'm a bit worried if I don't make it....
Eric L.
Most batteries have a "reserve capacity" approx 1-2hrs on a full charge if your alternator fails. Now, if you start your car on that battery, obviously the reserve capacity will be depleted somewhat. But you should be able to do 5 miles if you turn off all your accessories. Why don't you call your dealership and tell them the symptom and ask if they will send a tow truck for you?
FlyerNo9
I'm 4 hours from home and my break light and battery light cam on when i went to start the car to drive home today... SUNDAY.

What can I do on a SUNDAY to get it replaced???
CopperKat
Talk about bad timing! That really sucks! You could try calling all the Nissan dealers within a 15-mile radius on the off-chance that they have a mechanic working today. I purchased my vehicle on a Sunday, and I remember there was a mechanic who had come in to work on a car that had to be ready the following morning.
FlyerNo9
is there anything i could check to confirm that my Alternator is dead?
CopperKat
Here are a couple of links that describe how to check your alternator:

#1

#2
FlyerNo9
I'm going to drop her off at a local dealer Sunday night. Hopefully they will be able to resolve the issue in the a.m. so we can drive back to St. Louis tomorrow night.

Wish us luck.
FlyerNo9
Is it common for the dealer to replace my fried alternator with a remanufactored alternator?

Because that is what thay are doing to to mine today at Bales Nissan ?!?
SugarRushMurano
especially if your car is still within warranty.

What you can have them do is probably to put the reman. alternator while waiting for the new-alternator order to come in so that you can drive the murano. There is a national backorder on the alternator and the dealer might not want you to wait for 2 weeks without the car. Nevertheles, you should negotiate with the dealer to put the new one after it arrived. Free of charges
Gonzo
Oh I think they CAN put a reman in your MO. I believe the warranty is the same as a new alternator. The main thing is to keep all paper work in case another issue comes up down the road.
Stoker
I just had my alternator replaced with OEM one. After the first alternator the dealership replaced took 21 days to arrive, they now keep one in stock and replace it with a new OEM one has required ASAP.

I hope everyone that has to get a new alternator goes to the alternator poll and adds to it. It now looks like 22% failure rate right now for everyone that belongs to this organization. I hope that Nissan is reveiwing the numbers as they should be telling Nissan there is a problem.
jaak
Also, if you've not had a failure, report that as well, so the numbers don't get skewed. Mine's fine at 17 months.
Gonzo
I think I reported mine... 9K almost 12 months and its OK.

I was at the dealership last week.... I noticed there was a refurbished Nissan Alt at the parts desk so I asked the tech standing there with it if he has installed many of these. "OH yea he stated". I asked in the Murano? He said "in all of them".

Strange that Nissan isn't resolving this.
FlyerNo9
Well we picked up the Murano at 5:15 pm on Monday and made the 4 hour trip back to St. Louis.

Everything seems to be ok now.

It sucks when these things happen away from home.

Hopefully that is the 1st and LAST problem with my Murano.

Bales Nissan did a great job getting the problem resolved. I would have just liked to know ahead of time that it was going to take all day to fix.

I would have used my 'personal day' to play golf.
mattsmurano
I posted on the poll that my alternator was okay, but it went out last week. How do I change my vote?
Eric L.
I am not sure you can change your vote, but then one vote will not skew the results too much. It seems like a 20% failure rate right now for people responding to the post.
SugarRushMurano
My alternator has not broken yet.
But, to have an alternator that goes south during roadtrips several hunder miles from closest nissan dealer is no fun.

So by purposely causing damages to the original alternator in our MO will guarantee that it will get replaced at an anticipated time when we are not far far away to be left stranded in the middle of nowhere.

The motivation to perform this "alternator sabotage" will be strong, since nissan usa has not shown any care on the 20% or so failure rate we are seeing here. When we are stranded, it is us who are at disadvantage and not NNA.

What do you all think? I know this sound stupid.

Anyone know how to "load" an alternator so that it will go kaputt in a week or two?
Use my GF's hairdryer maybe to draw lots of constant current?
Use an inverter to power lots of air tools?
Use it to crank up 5.1 digital surround system and home theatre in the garage?
Inputs are appreciated.:D
Eric L.
By purposely sabotaging your own alternator, you will be raising the cost for all people purchasing new Muranos because of unnecessary warranty service. I do not think it is a good idea. You will more likely blow a fuse or burn out a relay before you overload the alternator.
jaak
How about...

You have a good one. It hasn't failed. So you make it fail and they replace it with a bad one that fails out of warranty.

Mine's still working. You know the saying? It's not broken, don't fix it!
Mike Brown
You can check the alternator output by putting a voltmeter across the battery termanals, before you star the engine check the voltmeter reading. Should be about 12 volts, start the engine and check the voltage again. At this time the meter should read 13.8 volts or more, if not have someone rev the engine while watching the meter. If the voltage does not increase the alternator in not working properly.

Mike Brown
04 Copper/Charcoal SL
Two weeks old tomorrow
dmako
I was wondering if one of those ODB chips that pugs into the port and records infomation.

If one to record data on a daily basis could they examine the data and start to see a downward charging trend.
ekaxel
"Alternator failure
You can check the alternator output by putting a voltmeter across the battery termanals, before you star the engine check the voltmeter reading. Should be about 12 volts, start the engine and check the voltage again. At this time the meter should read 13.8 volts or more, if not have someone rev the engine while watching the meter. If the voltage does not increase the alternator in not working properly."


You really have to do this under load. Turn your lights, AC and stereo on, and test as above

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