| Snow MO |
...And then there was.
Just got my set of 10,000K HID Bulbs and PIAA diamond spark (7500K) japan-only foglight bulbs yesterday, put them in and...
:eek: :eek: :eek:
BEAUTIFUL!
The color of the light output is just my taste, I went from these:
To these:
Here is a comparison of all of the bulbs that I have played with:
Unfortunately, I don't know where you can get them from. I bought them off of a former Murano/FX owner.
Feedback? I think they are great. They are not too distracting to other drivers in terms of glare, but when you drive by, everyone looks. Luckily I drove by police yesterday and didn't get a second glance!
I'm in love! :4: |
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| Chris03HD |
| Me likey... :4: |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by Snow MO
...And then there was.
Just got my set of 10,000K HID Bulbs and PIAA diamond spark (7500K) japan-only foglight bulbs yesterday, put them in and...
:eek: :eek: :eek:
BEAUTIFUL!
Unfortunately, I don't know where you can get them from. I bought them off of a former Murano/FX owner.
Feedback? I think they are great. They are not too distracting to other drivers in terms of glare, but when you drive by, everyone looks. Luckily I drove by police yesterday and didn't get a second glance!
I'm in love! :4:
GLAD you like em.....
arent they wicked at night??? you make all other cars light output look, well, plain........ (bmw included)
i might be able to get more of em, but itd be a week or so (and not for that price bro!!)
i jus installed 8500K d2R HID's on my G, with 8000K foglamps (not avail in 9006 spec, which is what you have in the fogs)....
looks VERY good, imo
-eS |
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| Eric L. |
| I have read on the lighting forums that the higher temp HID bulbs actually have diminished light output. I like the blue look, but I am not willing to trade it for nighttime illumination. |
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| Sw1tched |
| I like those bulbs, they look real good :D |
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| Dookie |
quote:
Originally posted by Eric L.
I have read on the lighting forums that the higher temp HID bulbs actually have diminished light output. I like the blue look, but I am not willing to trade it for nighttime illumination.
That is very true. Anything over 6,000 kelvin is being considered hard on the eyes. I guess there was some study done where fatigue was more evident with HID lights burning at anything higher than 6K kelvin. It had something to do with the intense blue light.
Anyhow, I do like the way they look though! |
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| mgthe3 |
Blue light makes ur optical processing center go ape. Remember the "blue dot" crystals peeps put on their tail lamps? Made their red lamps look purple, but a funny purple didn't it. It seems we can't processes blue light as well as blended light, our eyes search for focus constantly.
But they do look good.
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| Snow MO |
quote:
Originally posted by esemes
GLAD you like em.....
arent they wicked at night??? you make all other cars light output look, well, plain........ (bmw included)
-eS
They are amazing. It makes me laugh how many people look when i drive by. They really do not noticably diminish visibility at all in night time driving. I wish I had a before and after visibility comparison, and I'm too in love to switch them back just for that!
Thanks for the great deal! This has been my most favorite mod so far! :29: :29: |
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| pcs15394 |
| Those look really good. Wait until first snowfall at night, you'll have to wear sunglasses.....:26: :26: |
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| Snow MO |
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Originally posted by pcs15394
Those look really good. Wait until first snowfall at night, you'll have to wear sunglasses.....:26: :26:
You inspired me to update my title... ;) |
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| pcs15394 |
| I thought you might be too young to remember that song. I was going to reference it and thought maybe you wouldn't recognize it.:31: :31: |
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| Snow MO |
Come now! ;)
You overlook the fact that I was in college during the Napster years as well as the fact that I lived and breathed the 80's! Slap bracelets, deloreans, Fraggle Rock ;) You name it and I did it! :4: |
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| pcs15394 |
| I Lived the 80's as well. Graduated HS in 83. The 80's were a great time in my life. What goes around comes around, now I see things that were popular then all coming back. |
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| jaak |
Yeah, things come back when they're having a tough time finding something new!
It's funny, the music really does go in cycles. People get bored of the same thing over. XM has been boring me lately, I've been listening to a local progressive rock station again. Is it just me, or does XM have to do less CD dumps into their databases, and more actual DJ programming? It seems like I hear batches of songs from certain artists in a day or week, and not the latest....
It's like light bulbs.. People notice change. (Had to tie it back into the original thread!!!) |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by jaak
(Had to tie it back into the original thread!!!)
i was beginning to wonder about this.........
-eS
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| pcs15394 |
| Sorry - I got carried away, couldn't stop myself. However, I like Light bulbs too. Especially the ones Snow MO put in his MO. Unfortunately I don't have the HID option. But there always next time |
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| esemes |
sno---
i just changed my HID's (oem bulbs are the shielded d2r's on the G) to the 10,000K variety (s/a the ones you now have)
i had the 8500K d2R, but wasnt happy.... enuf...
i had the guy that imports the McCullough 10K's make me a set (using the 10K d2s's) to fit the G......
result is the same insane look as the MO.FX look.... cept, for the unfortunate fact that the G has traditional reflective housings for their HID's (not bi-xenon projection beams.....).... expect that to change when the 2k5 G arrives in oct!!
here's a peak..... (the hibeam and foglight is h3.... underneath the HID's) |
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| esemes |
| another image (clear corners, with 6 led 194's)...... |
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| Kris |
hi esemes,
it looks COOL! Do you actually drive at night? Are the lights effective? 10,000 K seems to me aufully "cold". The light must be blue..........I am not sure if it is safe............ |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by Kris
hi esemes,
it looks COOL! Do you actually drive at night? Are the lights effective? 10,000 K seems to me aufully "cold". The light must be blue..........I am not sure if it is safe............
i drive at night almost once a day...
these are great |
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| Snow MO |
quote:
Originally posted by esemes
i drive at night almost once a day...
these are great
Looks great! Couldnt agree more! |
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| BARCODE |
quote:
Originally posted by Dookie
That is very true. Anything over 6,000 kelvin is being considered hard on the eyes. I guess there was some study done where fatigue was more evident with HID lights burning at anything higher than 6K kelvin. It had something to do with the intense blue light.
Anyhow, I do like the way they look though!
Daylight is 5500k, anything higher is... But I do like them. |
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| jaycen29 |
| esemes can you get anymore of those 10,000k bulbs? How much?have you guys had any problem with getting pulled over for them being too bright? |
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| jaak |
| So.... SMS, when are you getting a Murano again? Seems like deep down inside you really miss it, as you never really left us!:D |
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| Snow MO |
quote:
Originally posted by jaycen29
have you guys had any problem with getting pulled over for them being too bright?
I've never had a problem with being pulled over because of my lights, but I have had a problem with the kids in my housing plan chasing me down the street yelling "Nice lights!" Usually there are about 20 of them and lately, even during the daylight, they yell and give chase. I feel like a bit of a celebrity! ;) Although, I don't know what the parents think about it...they just shake their heads or give a polite wave. I think it's all envy. :cool:
I did get pulled over 1x in the Murano and as soon as I did I shut off the headlights (thinking they were the reason), put on the flashers and sat there. Turns out that he couldn't see my registration sticker because of my plastic license plate cover. Who would have thought that they were illegal in PA? Anyway, whenever I tell people that I was pulled over the first thing they say is "Was it because of your headlights?"
They are really blue, but with all of the other Halogen lights out there, I really don't think most people think that they are modified. |
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| SugarRushMurano |
Factory HID temp which is 4100K is the brightest and closest to daylight HID color. If you go to higher temp, either it is the 5000K Philips or the ultinon setup 6000K or even beyond, it is just make it bluer, but in fact you loose a bit of lumens (i.e brightness).
It sure looks very cool.
Excerpt from automotive lighting page:
quote:
What are the results of using 6000K, 7000K, 15000K HID bulbs?
Stage 1 refers to 4100K and stage 2 normally refers to something higher value K.
As an example, a 6000K bulb in some headlamps might not show much difference at all, others will look more blue. These are observations when standing in front of the car looking into the headlights from above. After getting over the initial thrill of cooler light, many drivers have noticed that important traffic information are not as appearant as with OEM standard bulb. White traffic signs is being lit too much and can feel glaring.
During winter 2002, exponensional use of Kelvin (K) rating is used as brightness improving advertisement. Its all just big empty words. Do a search for "kelvin color temperature" on a search engine (ie: yahoo.com) and you will see that it has nothing to do with brightness and all to do with color. Going upwards from 4100K means that your light turns blue at the expense of total brightness and yellow color. Theoretically, if the same brightness were to be kept, you would have to increase the wattage of the bulb from 35 to maybe 40W, and redesign the ballast. This would be a very costly solution, so thats pretty much why all automotive HID bulbs are 35W.
LINK For reading on HID technology and various oem temperature:
Automotive Lighting - the bible |
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| jaycen29 |
| Snow Mo did you get your 7,500k fog lights from Esemes also? He put me in contact with the guy that sells the 10,000k HIDs and he wants $145 for em. You think they are worth it? Have you had any problems with melting from the heat? I need to replace my parking lights also, what APC bulbs did you use? |
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| Eric L. |
As noted before from the posts above, for people considering these 10000K HID bulbs, keep in mind that while they are more blue, they are not brighter. In fact, beyond 4100K (standard HID) you will likely notice only an incremental increase in visibility up to 5500K (approx noontime on a bright day). After that, the bluish hue of the higher color temp bulbs only serves to diminish usable light.
If you like the cool blue look, then consider these bulbs, but remember they also decrease overall illumination. It may not be much, but I got the HIDs for better visibility, and not so much for style, since they tend to annoy other drivers unfamiliar with it. |
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| Snow MO |
In regards to the last 2 posts:
jaycen29 -- I did get my 7500K bulbs from Esemes, and I most definitely enjoy the light that these headlights produce. The color gets much more attention then a regular HID light. The kids in my neighborhood always yell "nice lights" regardless of whether or not the headlights are on. I have not had any problems from melting and you will not either. I can't remember the replacement number for the parking bulbs, but I know that if you do a quick search you will find it. I am willing to take more pics for ya...any requests?
Eric L. -- Agreed, these lights do not increase your visibility, they merely set you apart from the rest of the crowd and their HID lights. The brightness of these lights are still leaps and bounds above regular headlights and by no means hamper my visibility. The night that I changed the bulbs I went out for a drive and did not visibly notice any decrease in illumination. I will definitely admit that you can't refute science and that the change in color temperature is definitely noticeable, but it does not put you or other drivers in danger whatsoever. I've driven through downpours at night with these and have had no issues whatsoever. The only disclaimer or caution I would raise if you are considering these is to make sure that your headlights are aimed right. It is not fair to other drivers to have your headlights blinding them. Aim them correctly and drive off into the sunset with a beautiful blue hue in front of you!:cool: |
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| esemes |
GUYS:::
i just got a couple o sets of em in yesterday, but they're spoken for....
i can try to order a couple more, but i need fnds in advance. i cant guarantee a discount, but even at 145 they are well discounted....
they operate at 35W, so they are not hot at all (the 10,000K is the lumens, not the temp)
eSE
ps- im not trying to make ANY profit on these, or run any online business.... just trying to help out fellow motorists that share similar interests..
PM me if interested, or maybe SNMO can get a bulk/group buy list together, and then contact me........(i can try to be the middleman, and maybe get a discount) |
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| Snow MO |
I'm happy to help out in any way possible. Is there an interest in a group buy?
Esemes, can you post some more pics of the lights when they were on your FX and I will try to take a couple more of mine. Also, can you get some bulbs more suitable for the general audience, say 6500K or is 10000K all that your contact has? |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by Snow MO
I'm happy to help out in any way possible. Is there an interest in a group buy?
Esemes, can you post some more pics of the lights when they were on your FX and I will try to take a couple more of mine. Also, can you get some bulbs more suitable for the general audience, say 6500K or is 10000K all that your contact has?
hey....
i tried the 6000K series bulbs, but they were VERY similar to the oem 4300K variety.... i have a pair of 8500K bulbs (d2R), but really dont like the light pattern of the d2R (nor is it gonna work w/ the MO setup)
heres another image of the 10K's, in action....... |
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| Chris03HD |
| Im down for a set. :) |
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| jaycen29 |
| Im interested, does he have any bulbs for the fogs or parking lights too? |
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| Snow MO |
Here's a few more of my illuminators. I apologize for the fogginess; the camera was in the air conditioning all night:
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| esemes |
okay guys:::
i am gonna do a bulk buy on the 10K bulbs....
they are irect fit replacement for the murano HID (only!!) d2S bulbs.
I wanna get at least five sets total, and ifso, can do them for 150 shipped (pair). They have gone up in price, i was told, but i can get this rate if the bulk buy goes thru...
i have a couple of potential orders for other vechicles already, so STEP RIGHT UP!!!
ask SNOMO for a reference to me, and better yet, if you want, have him collect the murano group funds. this way, the $$$ stays in house till we are ready to move.
i wanna have this done in a week, so please act accordingly.
hope these are still wante, as i have been trying to make progress on this for awhile.....
esemes |
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| esemes |
this is the current list.
i will try to update it!
1) JIMSBMW
2) DAVE ZARISTO
3) AZNWRR
4) DESAULT
if i get 10, maybe we can get even cheaper deals... (not sure, but think it would be so...) |
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| GhostHavoc |
Hello guys, I am a new member and a proud owner of a 2004 murano. This forum is awesome!! Very informative.
I am thinking about upgrading my lowbeam. I searched ebay and found this 7000k 9007 . What do you guys think of this? It draws only 55/61 Watts so I am assuming it is safe. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Have a great day |
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| Eric L. |
quote:
Originally posted by GhostHavoc
Hello guys, I am a new member and a proud owner of a 2004 murano. This forum is awesome!! Very informative.
I am thinking about upgrading my lowbeam. I searched ebay and found this 7000k 9007 . What do you guys think of this? It draws only 55/61 Watts so I am assuming it is safe. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Have a great day
It will look cool but the blue tint will reduce light output. If you want cleaner light, try Philips Bluevision, Sylvania Coolblue, or Sylvania Silverstar. These are all quality bulbs which exceed OEM specs. Note the silverstar is over driven (at stock wattage), and will last about 1/2 the life of a normal halogen bulb. |
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| GhostHavoc |
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Originally posted by Eric L.
It will look cool but the blue tint will reduce light output. If you want cleaner light, try Philips Bluevision, Sylvania Coolblue, or Sylvania Silverstar. These are all quality bulbs which exceed OEM specs. Note the silverstar is over driven (at stock wattage), and will last about 1/2 the life of a normal halogen bulb.
THanks Eric L. I will go ahead and purchase a sylvania at walmart. 9007 is the correct number for low beam right?
I checked my OEM lowbeam bulb today and had trouble removing it. Do I have to remove the housing first or what? :( Any tips would be very much appreciated. |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by esemes
this is the current list.
i will try to update it!
1 ) JIMSBMW
2 ) DAVE ZARISTO
3 ) AZNWRR
4 ) DESAULT
5 ) ANDYM
6 ) MGFR
7 ) FHTI
8 ) ESEMES
9 ) 04RCSTI
10 ) MAGICIAN
i signed in for a set, as i want a spare (or maybe to sell later)...
thanks to all that asked...
GB is acheived! |
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| ekaxel |
QUOTE] THanks Eric L. I will go ahead and purchase a sylvania at walmart. 9007 is the correct number for low beam right?
1. 9007 is a dual filament bulb, structurally like the h4 with longitudinal filaments. Has both a high and low beam filament
2. I have found the easiest way to get at the headlight bulbs is to pull the inner fender plastic panel |
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| GhostHavoc |
| Sorry, I am still having trouble replacing my MO low beam bulb. The wires are too short and this make the whole installation difficult. Do i have to remove the air filter box first? Any input would be appreciated. |
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| ekaxel |
| Do it from in the fender well, not under the hood! |
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| dklanecky1 |
Agreed, pull the inside fenderwell liner away from the fender, and just reach up in to the headlight. It took me less than five minutes per side to replace the little yellow parking light bulbs that way.
You'll want to protect your arm(s) as you reach in as you can get scratched up in there, but it's definitely the way to access the headlights. |
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| SugarRushMurano |
their arm size ;)
I never scracthed myself in there while tinkering with the bulbs.
My arms and tools fits perfectly. But again, i am about the same size as those engineers , you know what i mean. :4: |
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| GhostHavoc |
I was able to replaced the stock low beam bulbs with the 7000K i got from ebay. The installation was hard but it can be done from under the hood. The 7000k bulbs are good quality and paid only 20 bucks shipped.
Thank you everyone! :) |
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| rjardine |
quote:
Originally posted by Eric L.
It will look cool but the blue tint will reduce light output. If you want cleaner light, try Philips Bluevision, Sylvania Coolblue, or Sylvania Silverstar. These are all quality bulbs which exceed OEM specs. Note the silverstar is over driven (at stock wattage), and will last about 1/2 the life of a normal halogen bulb.
I plan to replace the standard bulbs on my Canadian SL. Of the three bulbs suggested above, how do you rank them in so far as better light is concerned. Also I presume installation is simple enough by twisting the white nylon socket to remove the holder, then swap out the bulb - without touching the glass of course!
I've noted the suggestion on this and other threads to go in through the inside fenderwall liner, but it seems to be held in place by clips that I suspect will not take well to be pulled out....and it looks like I have to remove the upper liner first. On the other hand removing the airfilter top on the one side and the rad overflow container on the other seems easier. Am I missing something with regard to removing the liners? |
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| Snow MO |
| The liner is not held in place by clips. All you have to do is simply unscrew the front mud flap/plastic piece in the front of the liner and then pull it down. Just be careful as to not scratch the paint when you are doing so. It's not too difficult and as soon as you get that out the headlight assembly is right there. However, the driving lights are a bit tougher to reach. Regardless, you will still have to go through the liner to get to them. |
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| Eric L. |
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Originally posted by rjardine
I plan to replace the standard bulbs on my Canadian SL. Of the three bulbs suggested above, how do you rank them in so far as better light is concerned. Also I presume installation is simple enough by twisting the white nylon socket to remove the holder, then swap out the bulb - without touching the glass of course!
I've noted the suggestion on this and other threads to go in through the inside fenderwall liner, but it seems to be held in place by clips that I suspect will not take well to be pulled out....and it looks like I have to remove the upper liner first. On the other hand removing the airfilter top on the one side and the rad overflow container on the other seems easier. Am I missing something with regard to removing the liners?
Any of these 3 bulbs will probably give the same results, which is a slight improvement over the standard OEM halogen bulbs. They are not HID however, but have a color kind of halfway between HID and halogen. Still a nice look.
I would not get the Silverstars only because they tend to last only half as long as a normal bulb. |
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| rjardine |
Thnx Snow Mo and Eric L for the comments. Now all I have to do is find a store that stocks the bulbs. The perennial favorite up here, Canadian Tire, does not. Specialty auto parts store is probably the best bet.
As for the driving lamps, in Canada they double as Daytime Running Lghts - the manual notes the bulb as an HB4 but not sure if that is what is used for Cdn Vehicles. Can anyone confirm if this is correct. |
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| jaycen29 |
hmmm I dont know why the links keep giving an error? they work immediately after I post them but when I come back it errors out? So here I'll just copy paste the info:
2004 NISSAN Murano
High & low beam headlamp (Models with HID)
HID-D2S
High & low beam headlamp (Non HID models)
9007
9007ST Silverstar High Performance Halogen Upgrade: The Look of HID: Whitest, Brightest
9007XV XtraVision Halogen Upgrade: Up to 20% Brighter
9007CB Cool Blue Halogen Upgrade: White Hot; Super Cool; 100% Street Legal
9007LL Long Life Halogen Upgrade: Lasts 3x longer
Parking light
194
194LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Rear turn signal
7440
Tail light
7443
Stop light
7443
High mount stop light
%COM
Fog/Driving light
9006
9006ST Silverstar High Performance Halogen Upgrade: The Look of HID: Whitest, Brightest
9006XV XtraVision Halogen Upgrade: Up to 20% Brighter
9006CB Cool Blue Halogen Upgrade: White Hot; Super Cool; 100% Street Legal
9006LL Long Life Halogen Upgrade: Lasts one and a half times longer
License plate
168
Back up light
921
921LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Front sidemarker
194
194LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Rear sidemarker
168
Map light
DE3175
Dome light
DE3175
Step/Courtesy light
161
Trunk/Cargo area
DE3175 |
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| jaycen29 |
| I've got the 10,000k HID headlight bulbs sitting at my house, just waiting to figure out what I am gonna do with the fogs and parking bulbs so I can change em all at the same time. |
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| Snow MO |
When you figure it out Jaycen let me know as I really would love to change the fogs to match, but I'm not real sure what to do. I was thinking of making the fogs HID as well...
Thanks,
Rob |
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| GripperDon |
| JUst took out the Sylvania Silverstars, TOO warm at 4000K then took out there replacements at 4100K by american Auto. Even though the HID are very close to 4350 / 4400 K I think I Need closer to 5000K to match well due to the high brightness of the HID as compared to the 55watt Fogs. Grip :D |
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| GripperDon |
Finally bought some FOG LAMP BULBS AGAIN! Hope that 3rd time is the charm. This web site has a nice supply of bulbs and some of the best prices I have seen. http://www.intakeone.com/Lighting/headlight_index.html
I ordered the KYO 4500K , 9006 55Watt. THEY ARE IN AND I want more output so going to replace with the 80Watt version, GRIP :2: |
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