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New Fogs and Parking Lights - Click HERE for Original Thread
Sw1tched
Spent about a half hour total yesterday installing the Hoen Fogs and PIAA Xtreme White 194 bulbs I got. I really like the results, check it out.







Kris
Congratulations! They really look great, don't they!

I installed Hoens too, now the turn for PIAA Xtreme White 194. Where did you buy them?
Sw1tched
Sounddomain

Awesome price and really great customer service.

I think they were 15 shipped.

Forgot to mention how scratched up my arms were after doing the passenger side fog light. It was a real pain in the @$$.
Halo
Yep, I think I STILL have scars from that. I decided when I finished that if that one burns out, the bumper is coming off next time!
Kris
quote:
Originally posted by Sw1tched
Sounddomain

Awesome price and really great customer service.

I think they were 15 shipped.

Forgot to mention how scratched up my arms were after doing the passenger side fog light. It was a real pain in the @$$.



Ha, ha...............I know exactly what you mean......

I actually pulled entire lamp assembly. I found it much easier to do it that way.
Snow MO
Looking sweet!

I hate the dreaded fog light replace...can almost picture the japanese engineers laughing when the looked at those blueprints
GripperDon
I am 6'2" but not that large, however I can seem to get the passenger fog lamp out or remove the bulb. I removed the front splash gaurd that is in front of the wheel AND I CAN see a bolt head at the bottom of the lamp HOUSING, If I can ever get that out will that RELEASE THE FOG LAMP? WHAT else is there to do? Really appreciate some help. Thanks Grip :D
ekaxel
If you remove the bolt (I thought it was at the top, but it's been a while), you can push the lamp assembly foreward out through the bumper. It has pawls and offers quite a bit of resistance, but it does snap out. Be ready to catch it!
GripperDon
I thought it was suppossed to be on top also,but I can't see one there or feel it either, Has me in a stew and as an old fart my rotor cuff is killing me.
GripperDon
I GOT ! Just tried the Syvania Silverstars and the Hyper Whites from American Auto Accessories. THe Hyper Whites are the better of the two and much cheaper. HOWEVER neither one come close enough to the HID OEMS from Nissian that came with the MO. Got to look for higher Temps. Suggestions? Grip :D
GripperDon
Finally bought some FOG LAMP BULBS AGAIN! Hope that 3rd time is the charm. This web site has a overwhelming supply of bulbs and the best prices I have seen. http://www.intakeone.com/Lighting/headlight_index.html

I ordered the KYO 4500K , 9006 let you know. GRIP :D
GripperDon
I am finally happy with my FOG lamps, the KYO's in standard wattage at 4500K are to ym eye perfect, GRIP, GRIP, HURRAY :2:

I have replaced them so many times I have even developed a method so I can do the passerenger side in snap.
Centurion
Aren't you worried that the KYO bulbs you got will be too hot (80 watts)?
GripperDon
NOPE got the standard version Superbean EX at 55W. Grip :D
Centurion
Right, I didn't notice those. Are they brighter than the Hoen fogs?
GripperDon
Probably not, but I chose them for color balance with the HID headlights. For some reason I got determined to get a really great color match. In general keeping the wattage constant and sticking with tungnestn (sp) filaments, raiseing the color temp will actually reduce the lumance. In this case I was only going up a few hundred degrees K, so I would guess the effective brightness is less than 8% different, hard to see but the color is easy to see. Since the construction of the lamp housing etc is not plastic the 80Watters may be OK for the lamp, maybe even for the surronding. I really don't know.Grip :D
GripperDon
After having lived with them a while I am going to go for the higher watt bulds about 12 more watts, Touching the Fog Lamp housings and the area around them after a long time being on makes me feel comfortable. I sure wish I could change the optics to get a narrow beam out of them so they could be a driving light not a fog lamp. GRIP :D
Centurion
Hey Guys'

I need help. I got to the fog lamp. Do you unclip the connector? If yes, how. Do you turn the bulb with the connector attached? I see the bolt on top of the housing but with the connector attached it probably won't come out.
Centurion
It's OK Guys,

I figured it all out. Now can someone suggest a good first aid cream for my arms.

The Hoen fogs look great. Now the city lights look really amber. Too bad Hoen didn't have them in stock. I think I'll go with the Piaa bulbs for the city lights.
Jay
Hey Grip,

Have you changed out your fog lights to the KYO's in your new MO? If so, are the bulbs a close match to the Xenon color.....I need to do something...The fogs look bad along side the Xenons.

Jay
GripperDon
YES I DID. I am very satisified with the KYO's color wise, they IMHO are better than the Silverstars and that includes the Oshram.

HOWEVER (somebodys favorite word, who was that masked man?) Since I am going to add the Driving Lights with a change in the H3's to brighetr and a higher color temp, I am going to add Ion Yellow to the Fogs for better Fog color like the Lexus is doing. MoPar is going to buy a Set Of OShram Silverstars I still have in the box

If You want a deal on the KYO's You can have them Shipped for 1/2 price, I have the origional clear plastic case. Probalbly been used 2 hours MAX! If not, fine also and I do love the color best I found 4500K. Not to blue and a good match for the HID.
zebelkhan
Grip,

I cant't wait for the 06 to come out so that you would buy one and then.....the rest of us can enjoy all these parts that are almost free :2:
Eric L.
quote:
Originally posted by GripperDon
YES I DID. I am very satisified with the KYO's color wise, they IMHO are better than the Silverstars and that includes the Oshram.

HOWEVER (somebodys favorite word, who was that masked man?) Since I am going to add the Driving Lights with a change in the H3's to brighetr and a higher color temp, I am going to add Ion Yellow to the Fogs for better Fog color like the Lexus is doing. MoPar is going to buy a Set Of OShram Silverstars I still have in the box

If You want a deal on the KYO's You can have them Shipped for 1/2 price, I have the origional clear plastic case. Probalbly been used 2 hours MAX! If not, fine also and I do love the color best I found 4500K. Not to blue and a good match for the HID.



From what I have read, theoretically a yellow fog light should be better, but most optics experts say it makes little difference. The yellow fogs on the GS are a cosmetic item, if they really did perform better, we would see them on every Lexus (including the more expensive LS430). The 1st gen ES300 had yellow fogs as well, but were replaced with conventional white bulbs.
GripperDon
ErickL Long ago and far away when I lived in England, all the Fogs were yellow. So it will be a neat thing to do.

And Don't hold your breath on the 06's this is a keeper. Search out my list of previous rides ans you will see I am a real auto nut.

I worked in the Auto industry so long on everything from sound canceling mufflers, to Diesel fuel injectors and a dozen items in between That I just can't help myself. I did like it when Masarati, Ford, GM, Allied and Bendix were buying the vehicles for me, One year I had so many cars that I got a letter form THE DMV asking if I was in the used car business.
GripperDon
Jay I answered your email and the KYO's are yours.
Boobaba
Hey Grip, I know u r a busy man but can we have some pics of some of these mods your talking about??
GripperDon
See my galley for some of those in the past. I'll make ones of the 05 in a little bit. I Also have some under IPOD mount.
GripperDon
Got to try out the Yello Gofs tonight, I really like them. Will make Pics of all this stuff hopefull on Monday, Including the Xbox under the Passenger seat.
Centurion
Hi Grip,

Which yellow bulbs did you use for the fogs?

Merry Christmas to all.
GripperDon
supremepowerparts.com

the 9006 Yellow Ion 80W SPP Precision Optics Bulbs
jaycen29
Pics Don Pleeeeez :D
GripperDon
OK TOmorrow, MOpar put his on the thread HID don't shine far enough. Mine will look very similar but my bulbs are the 5000K as compared to normal color.
MOpar
Just change my fogs to 9006 Silver Stars, better than stock but still
a bit warmer than HID's. Changeover lots easier than reported.
20 mins total for first try. Removing housing is the trick. Also
added PIAA Plasma Ion 168's to the parking lamps, nice yellow.
GripperDon
Like that method Aye! :D
Centurion
MOpar,

I installed the Piaa 168 in extreem white. I found that the OEM bulbs looked too dim and brownish. Are the Ion bulbs bright yellow or more amber?
MOpar
The PIAA Plasma Ion's are fairly bright yellow (Lexus yellow) for 168's, tried but could not find any stronger but am satisfied with these.
MOpar
ps if you just want brighter you can use
923 11 watts 500 hours
912 11 watts 1000 hours
921 18 watts 1000 hours
921LL 18 watts 1800 hours
I tried but they looked like another headlight to oncomming traffic,
besides I like the yellow.
I haven't seen the Xtreem whites (5 watts) so I can't compare.
Not sure about the extra heat of higher wattage.
Centurion
No I wasn't thinking of brighter. I agree that they should not look like a second headlight. The extreem white bulbs are closer in colour to the xenons. I think that the parking lights should be different than the xenons, but the OEMs were just too dull and faint looking.
GripperDon
MOpar we have to meet for lunch and let me "see" the finished product.
lilbit_cmm
Wanted to thank everyone for the advice. Got my Hoen's (fog and parking) installed yesterday, and they look beautiful!!! :)

Finally can drive around with my fogs, since I refused to do it when they were yellow.

It's the little things in life!

:p
GripperDon
Funny I went the other way and added Yellow Bulbs to get a ton more yellow for the fogs. GRIP :D
MerlotMo
Hi GripperDon
Hows the temp on the Fog Lamp housings
useing 80 w
GripperDon
Have the 55watt draw in going to 100 watt draw. Brotherr in -law i town testing for temp of 55 tomorrow and then the 100 in the afternon. IF ALL GOEs WELL. Tell you then. GRIP :D

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