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HID on fog lights - Click HERE for Original Thread
mgarciah
I just bought my MO SL AWD / halogen bulbs everywhere, I already order from proxenon the HID 9006 kit for my fog lights, Im costa rican and live in Costa Rica, just want to know if I made a mistake ordering this kit?, is it going to work at the fog lights?.

Any comments are welcome.

Hey I think I paid the higher price for any Murano here, in my country taxes are really high, for this SL AWD Leather, No Bose, no Sun roof, I paid $46K!!, thats why I dont want to spend more on wrongly items.

Thanks:eek: :eek:
jaak
I've wondered the same thing... The fog lights are metal and glass, no plastic there, so they can handle the heat. I don't know what the pattern will look like and if there will be a lot of glare. It depends how the bulb gets postitioned to a certain extent.

If you do it, please post pictures. I'd love to see how it turns out.
hfelknor
" The fog lights are metal and glass, no plastic there, so they can handle the heat. "

What heat?
I've never seen xenon bulbs that ran hot.
Is this something different?


Homer
esemes
quote:
Originally posted by hfelknor
" The fog lights are metal and glass, no plastic there, so they can handle the heat. "

What heat?
I've never seen xenon bulbs that ran hot.
Is this something different?


Homer



the true xenon hids pull 35W only........ considerably cooler than oem, imo....

the issue is........ "do HID's work well in fog, and, ifso, are they gonna work mounted at sub-knee level?"

dunno really.........
Halo
If I read your original post correctly, it sounds like you do not have HID's as your main headlights. So, in this case, having true HID driving lights might give you better visibility. Just make sure they're aimed low enough so oncoming drivers aren't blinded... those driving lights don't really have the mechanism to 'aim' them light the mains.

Also, I can't imagine installing these without removing the bumper. Just swapping the bulbs from behind was a major chore on the pssgr. side. You will also need to install ballasts and modify the harness to fit. The stock wiring in the harness should be fine since the current draw is likely going to be less than stock (I'd double check this to make sure).

Post some pics!
mgarciah
I already ordered them, so I will picture all the procedure and I will post it here. due custom clearance and delivery to Costa Rica pls allow 2 weeks.

Thanks
mattsmurano
It is true, the HID ballasts use less power, but on startup, they draw a higher "burst" of power than the normal lights. I had to upgrade the fuses +5A to keep them from blowing. I was not concerned about the current draw since the higher draw of power is not sustained long enough to heat up the wiring.
jaak
quote:
Originally posted by hfelknor
" The fog lights are metal and glass, no plastic there, so they can handle the heat. "

What heat?
I've never seen xenon bulbs that ran hot.
Is this something different?


Homer



Hey what do I know.... I don't have them! So it was a concern I had, but thanks for the update... That's good news!

I just remember the last light that I ran that had an arc, was rather warm. It pulled 150 amps through normal atmosphere and had carbon rods... Remember the old WWII searchlights? Well that was one of my summer jobs when I was a teen. Running one for special events. So my experience is a little twisted.

Perception now corrected!
:D
Eric L.
Putting HIDs into your fogs won't do much, since they are aimed so low, you won't get a large difference in overall visibility.

Note that they are fog lights (aimed low) and not driving lights (aimed high).

My suggestion if you really want good lighting is to get a good set of driving lamps, they can be concealed into the buttom grille so they will not stick out. A good set of pencil beam driving lights does wonders on dark deserted road.
mgarciah
Thanks for your advice, I know what you are talking about, I have two Bosch reflectors (130w ea) which I used on my previously owned Pathfinder they were GREAT , but I dont think they will look nice with the MO.

Anyway I already paid for them and they are on the way, I will install them and let you know my final results.

Thanks
mgarciah
OK, I received the set of After Market HID 9006 HB4, and installed them on my fog lights.

I feel very please with the results, I just raise the aimming 1 inch higher which seems to be OK, nobody asked me to turn them off by a glare, and the street is much clear than before.

Installation was pretty easy, just remove the covers inside the wheels and both Fog Lamps are just few inches away.

Check yourself...:2: :2:
mgarciah
this pic was before, all halogen (headlights and fog lights)

I took the picture with my Digital Camera, of course it looks much darker than the real thing.
mgarciah
And now the final show....
mgarciah
We could raise the fogs higher but I think I can budder the front drivers. to be just a Plug and Play Installation the results are satisfactory.



BUT ONE THING THAT I FOUND, WHEN YOU TURN ON YOUR HIGHBEAM THE SYSTEM AUTOMATICALLY SHUT OFF YOUR FOG LIGHTS UNTIL YOU RETURN TO LOWBEAM AGAIN, FOR ME THIS CONFIGURATION MAKES NO SENSE SINCE THE FOG LIGHTS ARE AIMMING LOW.:confused:
Eric L.
quote:
Originally posted by mgarciah
We could raise the fogs higher but I think I can budder the front drivers. to be just a Plug and Play Installation the results are satisfactory.



BUT ONE THING THAT I FOUND, WHEN YOU TURN ON YOUR HIGHBEAM THE SYSTEM AUTOMATICALLY SHUT OFF YOUR FOG LIGHTS UNTIL YOU RETURN TO LOWBEAM AGAIN, FOR ME THIS CONFIGURATION MAKES NO SENSE SINCE THE FOG LIGHTS ARE AIMMING LOW.:confused:




This is the way it is on most cars. The reasoning is that fog lights are for foul weather driving, and when its foggy you wouldn't be using the high beams anyways.
Gonzo
I would love to find a way to prevent the fogs from turning off with the highs... even better would be just to have them on with the parking lights. I couldn't find in the service manual an easier wiring mod to make this happen asside from optaining power from another source.

Has anyone been sucessful at this?
BARCODE
There is a web site for the Maximas WWW.MAXIMA.ORG. I know a few guys have done it and the wiring wasn't hard to do. The mechanics would be basicaly the same. Search the site for the instructions. It might help.... or give you some ideas how to make it work.. :D
ekaxel
Fogs on whenever ignition on and headlights (low beam) off.
mgarciah
Now with the HID on the Fog Lights I even would like to turn on only the fogs instead of the low beams.

The problem here is that the Computer controls the relay which turns on the fog lights, a new whole wiring will be required to jump this settings.
ekaxel
It works that way. If the headlight switch is off or parking, the fogs will be on.
mgarciah
At least in my MO it doesnt work that way, I just tried in any possible combination but the fogs works only with lowbeams.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Maybe it is a programmable feature since I checked on the service manual and there is only one wiring scheme for all MO 04 versions
mgarciah
The above circuit is Ok but you have to install an additional switch, I would like to use the combination switch to let is as OEM as possible.
ekaxel
You don't have to install any switches, just the two relays and wiring as shown!
Gonzo
What is a "GPDM" as shown and where is it located? Is it possible to modify slighly so Fogs are only on bascially whenever parking lights are on and can be over ridden by OEM Fog switch?
ekaxel
Sorry, that says EPDM. Gets very complicated when you add 'choices'. It was easy to just say the fogs are on whenever the low beam headlights are off and the ignition is on. Override to turn the fogs on WITH the low beams is done normally.
Remember, I had to do this AROUND the computer!
zebelkhan
This is my understanding of your diagram. Have I made a mistake?

Thanks
ekaxel
Your diagram is correct! Much neater than mine. You can fuse the red battery lead @ 15 amp. Please refer to the manual wiring diagrams to insure that you get the right wires (refer to connector numbers). There are some duplicate colors that are LAN wiring. Please stay away from those!
mgarciah- You have to do the mod to make it work as I described!
zebelkhan
I will get the relays and get started!
Gonzo
zebelkhan post pictures are you make progress. I must be slow today. Can someone please explain all the ops after this is connected as shown? When will fogs be on/off?
ekaxel
Very simple. Fogs are ALWAYS on when ignition is on and Low Beam headlights off. When you turn the low beams on, you can turn on fogs normally with the switch. If the headlight switch is in the OFF position, fogs are on by themselves.
zebelkhan
I will post pictures as soon as I get the chance to start working on this. Hopefully this weekend.

To ekaxel's comments I just wanted to add that with this setup the fog lamps will turn back on when you switch to high beam, or just the marker lights, unless you add two more relays for these two situations.

It would also be nice if we could add a "fail-Safe" mechanism to the setup in case the relay that is connected to the headlights fails. Since that relay is always in the "on" position, if it fails to operate and turn the fog lamps off when you turn the headlights on, voltage is going to be going to the fog lamps from two different sources. I am wondering if this will cause a problem at the EPDM. Any ideas?
ekaxel
Belt & suspenders. Shouldn't be a problem. 12v is 12v!
zebelkhan
This weekend was MO weekend for me. I installed body side molding, rear bumper protector, and, thanks to ekaxel, the Daytime Running Light "system" and it works!

On the DTRL I changed ekaxel's setup slightly because I did not want to be anywhere near the EPDM (for warranty purposes) and I wanted the lights to return to OEM whenever the light switch was used. So I installed my relays in the engine compartment between the air cleaner and the car body, picked up power (15 amp fused) from the small fuse box by the battery, ignition signal (also 15 amp fused) from the fuse box inside the car, and light signal from the marker light wires near the left light assemby. Then I used black plastic conduit to hide all the wirings. The DTRL comes on when the ignition is on and goes off if I turn on any lights, including marker lights. Fog lamp switch operates the fog lamps normally with low beam. Not as clean installation as ekaxel's, but the technicians at the dealership will have to look really hard to find this MOD. Again, thank you ekaxel!
ekaxel
Sounds like you disabled the ability to use the fogs (alone) without being able to operate your tail lights. I like to be able to do that.

Glad you were able to get it done.
zebelkhan
Thanks. You are right and I thought about that. On the other hand with the original design the fog lamps would have automatically come on no matter what the light switch was set on, except for low beam. I sometimes have long wait times with engine running and only marker lights on so I needed to have some control over the driving lights. Just a personal preference.
GripperDon
Zebelkhan! Do you have a picture? I want to put in the fog lamp on all the time relay system. Can someone please tell me about the relays to use, source, part number, contact ratings, something, Also more about mounting them, etc. Thanks Grip :D
zebelkhan
quote:
Originally posted by GripperDon
Zebelkhan! Do you have a picture? I want to put in the fog lamp on all the time relay system. Can someone please tell me about the relays to use, source, part number, contact ratings, something, Also more about mounting them, etc. Thanks Grip :D

My installation is a bit different from ekaxel's. If you do not mind working around the EPDM, I actually prefer his design because it is much more compact and perhaps even easier to implement. I OTOH did not want to take a chance with my warranty so I decided to stay away from EPDM and installed my relays on the driver side and connected my wires there as well.
For relays, I just went to a junk yard and paid $5 for two OEM Nissan relays from a late model car, one black and the other blue I also bought their pigtails for another $5. They are 20 amp relays. Nissan uses these in all of its cars for lights and other functions. I used the blue one to turn the DTRL on with the ignition, and the black to turn them off when the light switch was activated. I made a little bracket, mounted the pigtails on the bracket, pluged in the relays, and using an existing bolt, secured them to the side of the engine compartment between the body and the air cleaner housing. The wires were then connected to the battery, fog lights, and marker lights on that side. For ignition wire, I ran a wire through the firewall, using the rubber groumet on the main wiring harness, and connected to the inside fuse box.
I will take some pictures and post.
GripperDon
WOW ! Pics would be wonderfull !!! Thanks, Grip :D
b0xdesigns






sorry its a lil blurry...i didn't have my tripod with me..
Eric L.
Boxdesigns -

I am originally from SF and am trying to figure out which neighborhood you took the pictures in. My guesses are either 1) Lakeshore (near lake merced, lowell high school), 2) seacliff in the richmond district, or 3) ingleside district

How close was I?
b0xdesigns
The first two were taken in the eastbay in the contra costa area. Where I use to live.


I live in the excelsior dist. in SF tho... Where did you reside @?
GripperDon
??What happens if you hook a diode facing 37 between 27 and 37 and another between 28 and 36 facing 36 at the IPDM. Don't the fog's come on when you run the high beams and the fog switch behaves normally otherwise. WHAT DO YOU THINK JAAK??? or EKAXEL ??? This is the Feb. 2004 Wiring numbers. Grip ?????
Eric L.
quote:
Originally posted by b0xdesigns
The first two were taken in the eastbay in the contra costa area. Where I use to live.


I live in the excelsior dist. in SF tho... Where did you reside @?




I grew up in SF living in the richmond district. Now I am in freaking Illinois! :D
Snow MO
quote:
Originally posted by b0xdesigns
sorry its a lil blurry...i didn't have my tripod with me..


Where did you all buy your HID foglights from? Was the installation a snap?
DarkMeth
Well, I'm not sure if anyone else has consider this but I'm actually looking at replacing my fogs with something like the PIAA Ions. They are similar to the lexus yellow fogs and are way better for driving in the rain and/or fog. I thought about the HID fogs but they're not that great when it rains and it kinda defeats the purpose of having them... just food for thought..
darrylburke
anyone know where in canada you can get the HID 9006 HB4's??
ekaxel
WARNING!!!

Working with Gripper on his hi/fog mod, we discovered significant wiring differences in my shop manual and his. I can't imagine why they needed to change this, but apparently they did. So before going in to do any wiring mods, make sure that your manual and car are the same!

We will research further to try to find out when the change took place.
GripperDon
My manual if the Feb. 2004 revision. Thanks Grip :D
GripperDon
Look on page 3 of this thread my second post and here is a way maybe not the best to have the fogs on with the high beams.
zebelkhan
The DTRL mod on my MO runs too bright in my opinion and I would like to dim it down a bit. I think I read somewhere that I could add an in-line resistor to drop the voltage. Is that true, and if so what ohm resistor I need to use? Does it get hot? Will it harm the OEM halogen lights? Is there anything else I need to consider? Thanks in advance for all your help
GripperDon
I want to be sure about what you want to do. What are the DTRL that your system has on? Is it the fogs or the parking lamps or the main headlights? We all have instituted so many options I am not sure what you may have. GRIP :D
zebelkhan
quote:
Originally posted by GripperDon
I want to be sure about what you want to do. What are the DTRL that your system has on? Is it the fogs or the parking lamps or the main headlights? We all have instituted so many options I am not sure what you may have. GRIP :D

I only turned my fog lamps into Day Tme Running Lights. No parking or headlamps. My lights are the OEM fog lamps with the OEM halogen bulbs and as DTRL they take their power from a relay (per ekaxel's design.)
GripperDon
I have been trying to find you 9006 style lamp configuration bases but in less than 55watt or maybe a non halogen. Both pointed at having less output. But so far no luck. If you want to put a resistor in the supply line to the existing right at the point wher they attach to the fogs then I suggest that a couple of areas be investigated.

Assuming that each lamp is 55watt and that you noninally have 12.6 volts that means they are drawing about 4.36 amps each. This means the bulb has about 2.89 ohms of resistance when hot. A possible starting point might be to add a series resistor of about 1.5 ohms inline with the bulb. if that is too dim reduce resistor accordingly. This will increase the total resistance to about 4.4 ohms and reduce the total current flowing to about 2.9 amps and make the lights think they are 35 watters. (should be plenty dim. maybe too dim) The wattage required for each of these resistors is 15 watt. That is a big metal cased resistor, somewhat expensive $4-$6 and maybe warm to hot on the surface.

All in all IMO a lower wattage lamps or less efficent lamps (non halogen) is a better way to go. But it can be done with resitors, and eliminates removing the Fogs/bulbs but you need to get to the harness, it is a good location for the resistors as its in a protected and relativel cool spot. It may take a little experimenting with some different resistor values to get the dimness you want. GRIP :D
jaak
The whole point of DRL is that it makes you more visible. I wouldn't reduce the light. If you must, I'd think you'd be better off getting a lower wattage bulb, than cutting into the wiring and creating a place for moisture to enter and cause a failure.
zebelkhan
I am using the fog lamps both for what they were originally intended for (i.e. as fog/drive lights) and as DTRL. I don't really want to go with a lower watt bulb because I need the lights to run full power as fog/drive lamps and only dim them down when they are used as DTRL.

Currently as part of my DTRL mod, I have a relay that supplies power to the fog lamps to turn them into DTRLs. If I take Grip's advice, I can install a resistor (per your specifications) in series on the wire that comes out of the realy. This resistor should drop the voltage only when power is going through that relay, i.e. DTRL mode. Any other time, the OEM wires which have not been modified will provide the voltage to the lights.

If I understand it correctly, power consumpsion will remain the same, the watts that are not being used in the lamp just turn into heat at the resistor, right? Thanks.
GripperDon
There is nothing that should hurt the relay or the lamps. And you are correct you could switch the resistor to be in and out of the fog lamp supply easily with a relay. One douple pole double throw would be perfect but a number of kinds could be made to work.

I used a relay and a switch to have control of my fogs much like JAAK's two relay system but subed one relay witch a switch so I can decide what I want. We don't have fog here so I want different things, Just like you do.

I wish I had some variable resistor or power supply so I could determine a more accurate resistor value for you.

If you want anything else just ask. GRIP :D
zebelkhan
Thank you Grip. You have been most helpful.
GripperDon
:D
special-k
The way I understand it, and please correct me if I'm wrong:

If light switch is "AUTO" -- fog lights on as DRL, unless it's dark enough to turn on the main headlamps, in which case, fog lights manually controlled by fog switch

If light switch is "ON" -- lights operate as they would in the "AUTO" position (assuming it's dark out); in other words, fog lights operate manually by the switch

If light switch is "PARKING" or "OFF" -- fog lights always on

Is this accurate? If so, has anyone considered the possibility of changing the behavior slightly so that if the switch is "OFF", then no lights are on whatsoever? That way, you could have "OFF" if you wanted, and "AUTO" would behave in the current manner... DRL (fogs) during the day and manual fog controls at night?
MOpar
My fogs do not operate in the off or parking mode.
special-k
quote:
Originally posted by MOpar
My fogs do not operate in the off or parking mode.


Then I'm guessing you haven't done the mod from this thread...
zebelkhan
quote:
Originally posted by special-k
The way I understand it, and please correct me if I'm wrong:

If light switch is "AUTO" -- fog lights on as DRL, unless it's dark enough to turn on the main headlamps, in which case, fog lights manually controlled by fog switch

If light switch is "ON" -- lights operate as they would in the "AUTO" position (assuming it's dark out); in other words, fog lights operate manually by the switch

If light switch is "PARKING" or "OFF" -- fog lights always on

Is this accurate? If so, has anyone considered the possibility of changing the behavior slightly so that if the switch is "OFF", then no lights are on whatsoever? That way, you could have "OFF" if you wanted, and "AUTO" would behave in the current manner... DRL (fogs) during the day and manual fog controls at night?


That is correct. On this MOD the relays take their "on" signal from power going to the lights and not from the switch itself. To do what you are proposing I think one has to take the signal from the switch itself which I think would be complicated. One simple way to do it however is to install another switch on the mod wire that is connected to the ignition. With that switch in the off position, relays will not operate and there will be no DLR.
MOpar
Special-k,
I should've RTFM'd the whole thread.

I replied on another thread "Daytime running lights--" that I am adding a separate switch for independant control of the fogs,to me, much easier and avoiding IPDM and computer.
GripperDon
Mine don't either.
njmo
Perhaps I am oversimplifying this but hear me out please. I want my fog lights to work whenever the parking lights are on. This means they will shine with or without High or Low beam headlights. To accomplish this on my previous Maximas I simply spliced into the hot wire from a parking light and connected it the hot wire from the Fog light circuit. That way whenver there was juice to the parking lights the fogs got juice. Any problem with this suggestion for the MO??? Have not looked at the MO wiring diagrams but just checking.
GripperDon
Look at this thread.

http://www.nissanmurano.org/forums/...15&pagenumber=2
njmo
Hey Grip, Thanks for the reply! I have reviewed that thread and I see the mods with additional relays and such. I also am familiar with the Maxima link referenced. I am still wondering if the wiring changes that I have mentioned above will achieve my desired results. On a side note I really enjoy your posts, particularly the MO 04,05 differences and the NAV Xbox Mod you've been working on. Thanks again!
GripperDon
I Thank You! For the kind words.

I think that your suggested design will work both ways, Fog with Parking and Parking with Fogs. A look at the service manual under Lighting section would probably be a good idea to make sure their are no untoward effects to any other items.. I installed separate running lights (or rather MOpar did) for me But used a separate circuit.

If you like the X-Box wait until you see the MiniMAC in the Glove box. The glove box is being completely lined with metallic foil to make a Faraday shield as the squibs for the passenger AirBag are right behind it.

anyway, when that is done an Generator does some more magic (I am hopeing for) Then with a bluetooth mini keyboard and integrated trackball we may have a complete and very up to date carputer system. I would love to drive into Star-bucks and MO the forum from the MO. How about Voice over IP!!:D :D
njmo
Grip you are too much!! I appreciate the reply. I can not believe all the cool Mods you have done on your MO! I actually work for a large communications company and I talk VOIP everyday (Network & CPE). You will be on the cutting edge with the Platinum MO and the MiniMAC upgrade!! That baby could function as a complete mobile office with the help of VPN. :claphead:
GripperDon
Give me a place to learn more about VPN etc. I still do consulting to a number of Aerospace Companies. Thanks Don
njmo
Not sure if you were serious about the VPN info but you can go here for the basics. http://computer.howstuffworks.com/vpn.htm
I am sure alot of folks on this board use VPN if they Telecommute. Just to go a step further if you VPN to a Host site that has VOIP capabilities then with the right software on your PC (A Soft Phone APP) one can place Voice calls over the connection. Large companies give this option to traveling Execs & sales folks who simply need a broadband connection to make it work.
Sorry to jump way off topic.
GripperDon
OF course didn't get the acronism. Sorry. :1pat:
Mister Mo Fo
I have a thought on the DRL setup. My Murano is becoming a "Canadian" soon. It needs to have DRL.

I do not have a service manual, so I'll ask here. The fuses for the fog lights, head lights, etc, are they wired in before the stock relays? (I assume they are) If so, and I was to complete the wiring shown in my drawing, wouldn't this work so my fog lights were on all the time? as long as I took output from something receiving power all the time? I am fine with having my fog lights on all the time, even with hi/low. This wiring change would be pretty simple. just a couple of fuse holders with pigtails.

Any problems with this?
zebelkhan
quote:
Originally posted by Mister Mo Fo
Any problems with this?

I cannot tell you if this will work for sure, but even if it did, I would not advise it because it appears that you would be powering the foglights from a fuse and wire that may not be suitable for that kind of amps and watts. I would definitely recommend using a relay to feed the foglamps directly from the battery.
Mister Mo Fo
quote:
Originally posted by zebelkhan

I would definitely recommend using a relay to feed the foglamps directly from the battery.




I believe by doing this (my drawing above) you are still using the factory relays. So there shouldn't be any need for new ones.
Mister Mo Fo
Plan B!

After searching other forums for more info, I decided against my previous plan. The fuses are after the relays, so rerouting everything is not a good idea. However, the factory relays can still be used. I have a new idea, which I am going to try out. If it work, I'll post some pics! So far I've needed to purchase $4 worth of connectors, and shrink tube. It's pretty slick!
ekaxel
Installed my HID fogs today. Kit from ebay (HongKong) $72. Fit perfectly, no issues. Instructions terrible, but not needed. All Plug_n_Play.
Now I have to put up with HID DRL! We will see about the longevity...
ekaxel
Installed my HID fogs today. Kit from ebay (HongKong) $72. Fit perfectly, no issues. Instructions terrible, but not needed. All Plug_n_Play.
Now I have to put up with HID DRL! We will see about the longevity...
Gonzo
Pictures?
biggun
quote:
Originally posted by njmo
Perhaps I am oversimplifying this but hear me out please. I want my fog lights to work whenever the parking lights are on. This means they will shine with or without High or Low beam headlights. To accomplish this on my previous Maximas I simply spliced into the hot wire from a parking light and connected it the hot wire from the Fog light circuit. That way whenver there was juice to the parking lights the fogs got juice. Any problem with this suggestion for the MO??? Have not looked at the MO wiring diagrams but just checking.


njmo,

That is exactly what I did with my MO and it works like a charm (see adding FOG lights in S Model - or something like that). The advantages are:

- FOGs on with park lights
- Can use with Hi/Lo Beams
- No fishing wire through firewall
- Stealth mod that is difficult to detect by dealer
- Best of all - if you leave your FOG lights on, your Mo will shut them off automatically to prevent battery drain (not sure if this would be the case if you were to draw all the power directly from battery.

-biggun
ekaxel
2 pictures (one with HL on, one off) posted in my gallery. I just can't handle attaching a file to a post!
They are as bright as the hl, unfortunately just a little bluer. You really can't see it in the pictures.
fastNugly
quote:
Originally posted by zebelkhan
This is my understanding of your diagram. Have I made a mistake?

Thanks



Hi, I will want to complete this when I swap my HID headlights over teh halogen ones.

Question. Where is the EPDM and do you have actual pictures of how this is achieved or installed? I am new at this, but handy. I am more of a visual guy with and actual picture...lol.

I assume this does not go to the fuse box under the hood? What wires to I tap into if any? Where do I run teh relays to, etc?

Zebelkhan or Ekaxels's....your help would be greatly appreciated.

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