| injentech |
Hi, I'm Duy from Injen Technology, just wanted to say hi and let you guys know that I'm on this forum to help answer any questions you may have in regards to Injen products.
Feel free to contact me at duy@injen.com with questions or inquiries.
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| dmako |
Thanks Duy!
My questions concerning CAIs in general are:
How easy to install. Do I have to cut or drill anything.
How easy to re-install stock airbox. Say something like my alternator dies, and I do not what my dealer to see the CAI due to warranty issues. How fast can I reinstall.
Water getting sucked up causing engine damage. For example check out the bottom of this site:
http://www.coximport.com/injen/
*Injen Technology Cold Air Intake Systems should be removed in any wet climates or on any wet roads or highways.
They are not taking stream crossing, just ‘wet roads’. |
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| injentech |
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How easy to install. Do I have to cut or drill anything.How easy to install. Do I have to cut or drill anything.
How easy to re-install stock airbox. Say something like my alternator dies, and I do not what my dealer to see the CAI due to warranty issues. How fast can I reinstall
Hey David,
To answer your questions, the installation time depends on the how mechanically inclined you are. Since everyone is at a different level, I would say the apporximate install time is about an hour and half. Most of which is the removal of the stock system.
There is no drilling or cutting involved, as our systems are direct bolt on replacements. Which makes installation very straight forward.
To reinstall, just reverse your process of installation and you should have no problems. :)
Water and CAI are a common concern. Our system for the Murano actually sits at about 2 feet high. Therefore, only submerge conditions would drastically effect the engine. All of our systems are generally designed to sit about the door jam of the vehicle.
Coximport, has a general disclaimer for their protection as most companies often have. We state what the product is intended for and if the owner decides to do otherwise, we can not take liability for misuse.
Hope that helps! I know you would be very pleased with the system, it made some great numbers! |
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| injentech |
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Easily converts into Short Ram
With the Nissan Murano Intake, it comes as a two section system. Allowing you to use it as a short ram or as a full cold air system. Many of our users are residing in wet climate, so this system is unique where if it concerns you to a point, you may convert it to a short ram without sacrificing power.
So to answer you question, Yes. :) |
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| Dookie |
| Is there any way you could post a bigger dyno sheet than the one that is already on the forum. It's kinda hard to read and Im having difficulty reading the torque curve. Thanks, |
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| injentech |
| Sure, let me see what I can do and I'll have it up asap! |
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| dmako |
I guess this begs the question, if there no loss of power with the short ram setup, why go the long ram way?
And do you have any comments going the short ram way how you compare to the Jim Wolf Pop-charger which is basicly a short ram setup but cost $95.
Thanks
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Originally posted by injentech
With the Nissan Murano Intake, it comes as a two section system. Allowing you to use it as a short ram or as a full cold air system. Many of our users are residing in wet climate, so this system is unique where if it concerns you to a point, you may convert it to a short ram without sacrificing power.
So to answer you question, Yes. :)
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| Dookie |
| A dyno comparing the two would only be the real truth. By nature, longer intake runners provide more torque at the sacrifice of 1 or 2 HP. Injen-rep should agree with this one....but it's just an educated guess/input on my behalf. This motor may respond different.:confused: |
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| injentech |
Well, if you take a look at the Jim Wolf pop charger, its essentially replaces the stock box with a filter and adapter plate. Thats all you're really paying for, as opposed to our aluminum piping which removes the stock tubing that can be damaged over time due to heat. Our intake systems are high engineered. We could have easily came out with a similar design as the Jim Wolf, but we felt our system was a better option. Please, don't get me wrong, Jim Wolf makes great products, but we are definitely excited about the Murano's system. Not only does our system perform, it enhances the aesthetics of your engine bay.
CAI will generally produce more power than short rams due to amount of air intake and flow. Our system compliments the buyer by allowing them to interchange between two system based on preference. I mentioned, without sacrificing power, meaning that with the short ram conversion you will still see notable gains, but as a cold air, you will see a bit more :) |
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| KSmurano |
Injentech - what is the cost of a CAI for the Murano?
Anychance of a group buy discount?
What colors do they come in? |
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| injentech |
| Hi, unfortunately we do not sell to the public, so the best thing to do is to contact your local authorized Injen dealer and see if they are willing to put together a group buy. I'm pretty sure they'll be more than happy to help you out! MSRP $350 for Polished (available now)and black powder coat will be availble in a couple of weeks for $360 MSRP. Again, please contact your local dealer for retail pricing! :) |
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| Dookie |
| Any word on that dyno? :D |
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| esemes |
injentech-
glad you registered here.... untapped mrket, IMO!!
i have a personal need for my g35 (involving a custom made intake section needed)...
can we talk??
pm me, please
scott |
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| Himself |
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CAI will generally produce more power than short rams due to amount of air intake and flow.
Injentech, I was wondering if the CAI's increased airflow caused the check engine light to come on? |
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| esemes |
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Originally posted by Himself
Injentech, I was wondering if the CAI's increased airflow caused the check engine light to come on?
so far, my blower (at over 9lbs of boost) has not....
i only got a CEL once, when i had some boost creep (due to a misadjust on my bov)
sorry for jumpin on the answer, but i always wondered the same, and found out when i went FI |
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| SIM |
Ok, so obviously power and torque are up using the CAI. But what about the noise level? I have the feeling that cranking up the power on this side of the firewall will end up adding many DBs on the other side.
I know that my stage-5 Stillen 300Z TT was already quite louder just after stage 1 (K&N double air intake) but the car had a different purpose and quietness was not expected nor desired as it is in the Murano.
Anyone installed it yet? |
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| Dookie |
| I can almost guarantee you will hear a noticeable growl at higher engine speeds, or WOT. This is because the stock resonator is removed. |
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| dmako |
Injentech -
Is this statement true that I found on a site?
Injen Technology ensures that
overboost.com
has met all criteria to be an Injen Authorized Web Dealer. This logo ensures that you are buying an authentic Injen Technology Product, backed by a limited lifetime warranty.
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Important Note: Injen Technology only offers warranty and support on Injen products purchased from an "Authorized Dealer". No exceptions.
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I have found your CAI system offered for much less at other sites then the one mentioned above. But they do not state that they are " Injen Authorized Web Dealers". |
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| Eric L. |
| Would it be possible for someone to post a picture of the injen intake mounted in the Murano? I am curious how all those pipes are routed. Duy - if you did a dyno on a Murano, I'm sure you took pictures of the installed setup right? |
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| gstyve01 |
here's a pic of an injen in a 3.5 altima...i would think it would look somewhat similar.
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| Eric L. |
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Originally posted by gstyve01
here's a pic of an injen in a 3.5 altima...i would think it would look somewhat similar.
Where is filter relocated to? |
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| gstyve01 |
it runs down to below the LH headlight...see here:
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| Eric L. |
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Originally posted by gstyve01
it runs down to below the LH headlight...see here:
Ok it looks like from that picture it will be about one foot off the ground. Thanks for the pictures. |
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| dmako |
On a MO the rep stated:
"Water and CAI are a common concern. Our system for the Murano actually sits at about 2 feet high. Therefore, only submerge conditions would drastically effect the engine. All of our systems are generally designed to sit about the door jam of the vehicle. " or you can mount as a short ram intake.
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Originally posted by Eric L.
Ok it looks like from that picture it will be about one foot off the ground. Thanks for the pictures.
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| dmako |
Nice pictures if you goto http://www.ucfgaming.net/images/altima/injen
I really want to see the Murano instructions. Duy?
Do you have to remove the bumper cover, or can you 'feed' the air filter portion into position I wonder?
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Originally posted by gstyve01
here's a pic of an injen in a 3.5 altima...i would think it would look somewhat similar.
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| injentech |
| Hey guys, I should be able to get the dyno sheets up for you today. Scott, email me at duy@injen.com, if I can help, I'll be more than happy too, but if I can't then maybe I can point you in some sort of direction. Either, drop me a line and let me know what you need! |
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| dmako |
Injentech;
I was looking at the stock intake today and am wondering what is that setup in the middle of the primary intake?
Looks like a lot of molded plastic with a small compartment with a connector hose.
I know the Injen primary tube will replace this whole monstrosity.
Which may be good or bad.
Good, Like the straight air flow.
Bad, What is being replaced? And will the service department balk at replacing this? |
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| dmako |
| A pic of what I am talking about: |
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| Eric L. |
| Even though technically they cannot deny warranty service on a part unrelated to any aftermarket modifications (for example, if you sunroof does not open, they cannot deny warranty service due to your intake) - you can almost be guaranteed that a flashy mod like the injen intake will get you an excuse from the dealer on why they cannot fix your car under warranty. If you do get this, I suggest you put the stock intake in before taking it into warranty service. Note that any powertrain related breakdown warranty protection is voided with this aftermarket part. |
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| esemes |
dmako-
that compartment is just a part of the intake baffle/resonators, used to hush the inatke growl ALOT.... the hose is a Crankcase vent tube, that vents crankcase gasses bak into the intake to be reburnt
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| senza |
| It's amazing how well that type of "baffle/resonator" works. I had a symilar system on a '98 Regal GS; you couldn't hear the supercharger at all. When I installed a CAI system and removed the "baffle/resonator", the intake "moan" and supercharger mechanical sound was quite noticeable....I liked it... |
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| Tyler_Canada |
| It's funny how an otherwise undesirable noise, when it is realized that it indicates a performance increase becomes a beautiful sound. |
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| jaak |
| I've always been partial to the intake howl of certain engines... Like my old Kawi Triples.... Waahh, Waaaahhhh, Waaaaaahhhhh... Oops, there's a cop, better slow down! |
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| dmako |
| So is anyone thinking of installing this setup? |
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| senza |
| The BMW Z4 has a resonator tube running from inside the engine compartment in..to the interior near the driver so the driver can enjoy the "mechanical melodies" of power. |
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| senza |
| Looks like the "avatars" have disappeared? |
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| Hawaii_SE-R |
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Originally posted by injentech
Well, if you take a look at the Jim Wolf pop charger, its essentially replaces the stock box with a filter and adapter plate. Thats all you're really paying for
From previous experience with JWT pop chargers, the "adapter plate" is actually a velocity stack that is CNC machined to maximize the size of their cone air filter and effectively direct the airflow to smoothly enter the MAF. Simple plate adapter that are commonly found on aftermarket intakes actually causes turbulance within the filter cone itself which reduces the effectiveness of the system.
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Originally posted by injentech
Not only does our system perform, it enhances the aesthetics of your engine bay.
Yes and no. I have both types on my two SE-Rs, one being a Stillen Hi-Flo (very similar to a JWT POP) and the other sporting a Hotshot CAI with a JWT POP. Both gets people's attention either because of the huge filter or because of the shiny pipe (filter not visible).
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Originally posted by injentech
CAI will generally produce more power than short rams due to amount of air intake and flow.
Debatable. I'm sure you have dyno numbers to prove this but real world conditions cannot be reproduced in a shop with the car tied down and a fan blowing at the front of the car. The difference between a CAI and WAI (Warm Air Intake aka short intake) has been a recent topic in other forums with some claiming the WAI produces more power (HP and TQ). I may agree with this conclusion also from previous runs down the 1/4 mile showing a slight advantage with a WAI setup.
I can go on for a quite a bit more about possibly why CAI may or may not produce more power but think about this, the amount of air intake and flow will always be resticted by the ID of the MAF and the size of the throttle body no matter if the intake piping is short or long, "cold" or "warm" . |
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| Tyler_Canada |
Good points. One difference you didn't mention is that the length of the pipe dictates at what RPM(s) the intake is tuned for.
The Murano will probably have 2 points of peak performance (1 each for when the variable intake is open or closed).
I can't remember the lower one on the stock setup, but the upper one was about 4600 RPMs. With the Pop Charger it seems these are at about 3000 and 5200 RPMs. |
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| beemer-biker |
Duy, this is concerning CAI's in general. What performance gains (HP, Torque, MPG, etc.) would/could I expect to see if I mounted one on a 4 cyl engine? I am trying to decide if the increase, if any, would be worth the cost of the device.
The engine puts out about 120 hp, 140 lbs/torque from the factory. I realize that you can't give me specifics, but ballpark figures are good enough. In case you are wondering, it is a Jeep engine, I know it isn't a MO, but it is my "other" vehicle. :)
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| injentech |
| George- It is hard to say without actually testing the vehicle or putting it on a dyno with our system. If you're looking for ballpark figures I would estimate some where in the 4-6 hp range. Again, I do not know specifics since we do not have an application for that vehicle. The gains could be much more or less. :) |
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