| drwagner |
Good Evening,
I have a 03 SE that I just purchased last month and love, I only have one issue. I have the HID headlights and when set on auto and I turn off the car, the lights stay on. Has anyone else seene this problem?
TIA David |
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| rjardine |
According to the manual, page 2-21, if you turn the key off, open any door then close all the doors, the lights will stay on for 45 seconds.
If however you keep any door open, they will stay on for 5 mins. |
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| drwagner |
| which door makes them stay on for 45 minutes? |
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| rjardine |
close all the doors and the lights will go off after 45 SECONDS.
Keep any door open and they will stay on for up to 5 minutes. |
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| drwagner |
| Ok, so I'm s little used to the auto lights in my Porsche's and my F-150, which do go out after about 5 minutes after the last door is closed. You're telling me that its normal for the lights never to go out in the Murano after 45 minutes or several hours after the last door is closed and locked? |
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| rjardine |
No.
Turn off the ignition, get out of the car and close the doors - lights will go out after 45 SECONDS, repeat SECONDS.
If you leave a door open however they will stay on up to 5 minutes or until you close the door then they will shut off 45 SECONDS later. |
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| jaycen29 |
| well I have a remote starter on mine and if I use it to start the car and then use the remote to turn it off with the auto light function on they will stay on. I think it might have something to do with it not sensing the key actually turning. I was gonna ask anyone if they new a way to work around that but its not that big a deal because i rarely use the remote start to turn off the car, just if I am showing someone that I can. Out of habit now I have been turning the lights to off just in case though but it would be nice not to have to worry about that. But if I turn it off using the key it usually seems to go off by itself on auto. Im not sure but I seem to think there might also be a setting that you can set to control how long the lights stay on after you turn off car, but Im not sure. You have to go into the settings menu on your dash, it can be kind of tricky to get to sometimes. |
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| drwagner |
Ok, I'm tired of listening to the xxxxxxxxx.
(Word edited by jaak and PM sent on this, please refrain from such words as a description of other members.)
Here's the problem for the cheap seats in Canada:
Driving around with headlights set to auto. Drive into driveway, or parking lot, park car, turn off engine, get out of car, shut door, lock car with fob, walk into house/store, come back out 2 hours later and the lights are still on. No doors have been opened for 2 hours. I never complained about the lights being on for 5 minutes. Quit posting if you can't contribute more than "the lights will stay on for 5 minutes". |
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| hfelknor |
Take it to the shop.
You obviously have a problem.
As explained it shouldn't stay on for longer than 5 minutes.
It's a battery saver feature.
Try to work on your attitude before you get to the dealer.
Homer |
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| Eric L. |
Or you could try turning on and off the lights like most people do. Personally I find the auto setting does not turn on the lights early enough and even with the battery saver, I am not sure I would want the HID bulbs to be on unnecessarily.
Looks like I read the posts above too late, and someone changed minutes to seconds! :p
Please lets try to keep posts here on the bbs "nice." |
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| drwagner |
Ok, so in order to be "nice" on this site one has to be willing to be treated like an idiot? The word that was edited out wasn't even swearing in anyone's dictionary unless you have a problem with Summer's Eve products. Y'all need to grow up a bit. I was irritated by the fact that another member was uppity enough to assume I couldn't read the manual and he even pm'd me just to put the finishing Thurston Howell the third touch to it.
"I have replied to your auto-light question through the forum.
I am guessing that you may have bought a previously owned Murano. If so hopefully it came with a manual, otherwise you are going to have a lot of questions!!"
We each are entitled to be irritated by another person and express said frustration. Rjardine made an assumption that was wrong and continued to voice said assumption even after being told he was wrong, yet it is I who is being criticized for my tone. |
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| drwagner |
Sorry you find feminine products offensive. I found rjardine's tone and attitude offensive as well as your note to me. I believe you are a bit condescending and arrogant to assume I would "need help" modifying my post so as not to offend others. I chose not to use any four letter words as they are offensive, but by your editing my post it implies that I did use inappropriate language. By doing that you have in fact defamed my character.
As to my comment about the cheap seats in Canada, that is an old expression having to do with being a distance from the stage that prevents the person from being able to hear the comedian.
Thanks for your lack of consideration.
quote:
jaak wrote on 08-11-2004 06:24 AM:
Hi, A couple of problems with your post.
1) Language inappropriate and not appreciated by other forum members.
2) Insult towards a nation of people, not appreciated and not contributing any value to the thread.
We do want your participation, but in a respectful manner.
Thanks for your consideration.
Jaak
P.S. please feel free to edit your post and amend it. I can help you if you need to remove the offensive parts and get you back to a good start with the other members.
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| drwagner |
| By the way cancel my membership. |
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| Boobaba |
drwagner, how can u say that rjardine's "tone and attitude" was offensive???!!! He was just trying to help you out with what seems now a defect with your auto light function.
rjardine stated:if you turn the key off, open any door then close all the doors, the lights will stay on for 45 seconds.
And you kept repeating in your post reply 45 MINUTES!! and not SECONDS as rjardine stated, 3 times.
It seems that you were NOT listening, and it only made you look as if you lacked understanding of his post.
If you had stated this sooner:Driving around with headlights set to auto. Drive into driveway, or parking lot, park car, turn off engine, get out of car, shut door, lock car with fob, walk into house/store, come back out 2 hours later and the lights are still on. No doors have been opened for 2 hours. I never complained about the lights being on for 5 minutes. Quit posting if you can't contribute more than "the lights will stay on for 5 minutes".
Then all who read this thread would not have come to the conclusion that you had a MAJOR problem with reading/comprehension.
I'm sorry but it is YOU who has the attitude. Not us. Goodbye. |
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| MVTCFP |
quote:
Originally posted by drwagner
By the way cancel my membership.
That should take about 45 SECONDS. Please stand by..... |
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| rjardine |
Wow!
Thnx for the support. |
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| MVTCFP |
quote:
Originally posted by rjardine
Wow!
Thnx for the support.
Just so we're all clear. You're saying that you are thankful for the support you've received? All of it? Some of it? What support? Where is that listed in the manual? Are you implying that our support somehow needs recognized? You're appreciative "tone and attitude" have been noted.
In some strange way, I kinda miss that guy already....:xnuts: |
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| mattsmurano |
Wow, that was quite the fiasco. The uglyness is not nice.
My lights work great. Just like they should. Off after 45 seconds, or 5 minutes. I always have them on the "auto" position. It is nice not haivng to think about it. They are just on when I need them.
I am glad this thread has died down. |
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| GMTURBO43 |
I leave mine in the off position until needed - and then I flip them to auto.
I heard, the hardest thing on the HID lights was the initial turn on. When the Murano is in our garage the lights come on if they are in the auto position. The key clicks to on - they flash on - then go out - then when the Murano is started they come back on. Then back out of the garage they go back off...Seems like a lot of extra use that isn't needed.
Also when flipping from Off/Auto/Parking Lights/On - they go off/on/off/on - I just flip to auto to avoid the additional on cycle.
I'm probably overly paranoid.
Is there any way I can keep mine from staying on 45 minutes after I turn the ignition off.
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| mgthe3 |
no GM, I do the same thing for the same reason.....and the fact that I don't want to tempt fate with other things....
On my venture, when you FOB'd the lock the lights went out, not so on Mo. But, I had no way to keep the dang running lights from being on....so flipping the switch is no biggie for me.
:)
and
mvt---LOL
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| MVTCFP |
My auto lights also work as intended. I do have a gripe about them though. Whenever I pull into my garage, or go under an underpass, the lights come on within seconds. I wish they would delay for 30 seconds or so before lighting.
I also agree the switch settings should be switched to: Off, Park, Auto, On.
Instead of: Off, Auto, Park, On.
And while I'm at it, I think I should be able to turn the fog lights on regardless of the headlight setting.
And don't get me started on keyholes....... |
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| krpster |
quote:
Originally posted by Eric L.
Good riddance!
Well put!:) |
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| midnitexpress |
| The dealer can adjust the sensitivity of the photo cell for the Auto-On lights. but I'm confused...isn't there a function on the MO that turns all non-essential power usage off 1/2 hour...regardless of settings or is that just interior lighting. |
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| SIM |
Well I thought that this feature was very nice indeed. I usually leave the tailgate opened in the garage because it is a storage for my computer equipment. The lights will not drain the battery because they simply go off after a few minutes. Nice feature!
Less nice is the gate shocks that stiffen incredibly with time and make the gate very hard to close after 8 hours or so.
Well, a little workout is not bad for me but a little lady may find this to be a real turnoff. |
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| Milkman |
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Originally posted by midnitexpress
The dealer can adjust the sensitivity of the photo cell for the Auto-On lights. . .(snip--edited)
I'm not sure if it is just new for the '04 or if it is the SE edition, but in the settings on mine there is a sensitivity setting that I can adjust for the delay on the auto lights and for how long the lights stay on after leaving the vehicle.
Also, anyone know if it is okay to just turn on parking lights in a construction zone? It is a law now in Pennsylvania that you have to have your lights on for safety. I kind of hate to turn the HID's on during daylight hours just for a construction zone. Even, if I could just turn on the parking lights with the fog lights I would feel better. |
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| midnitexpress |
| on the '03 SL with HID the "fog" lights can't be operated independently of the headlights. Very annoying, since with the HID's burning, the supposed fog lights are only aux. lighting. I wish there was an easy fix to allow independent operation. |
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| jaak |
| It would be nice to know how to implement the Canadian setup for that. The fogs get used as Daytime Running Lights. |
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| SIM |
| Maybe I am asking too much but shouldn't the wiring difference between the US and the Canadian model be detailed in the service manual? |
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| EasternPA |
Milkman, why do you hate to run your HIDs during daylight in construction zones? I agree it would be nice to able to operate them independently, but I don't recall being able to do that with my XTerra, either. I was only able to do that when I installed the kit myself.
Perhaps it has to do with laws about the fogs automatically shutting off when the high beams are turned on. Its an easier circuit that allows the fogs to come on only when the low beams are on vs enabling them to come on with the parking lights OR the low beams but NOT the high beams. |
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| midnitexpress |
| It only seems to be some Japanese makes that don't allow independent operation of the fog lights from the headlights. Most of the other makes out there allow it. I know for a fact, all Chryslers & 'Benz models allow it. Not sure about GM, but then they were the first with DRL's as mandatory. Anybody know of any others, either way? |
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| Gonzo |
There are settings for when the lights turn off. I had mine adjusted at the dealer so once I lock the car the lights turn off otherwise they will turn off automatically a short period of time.
If I recall there are three or four different settings that the dealer can set with the CONSULT II equiupment. |
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| Eric L. |
| Yes there are settings to adjust the auto lights. Unfortunately my incompetent dealer said there are two settings, on or off! I haven't bothered to bring my car back there, it would be a waste of time. |
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| ekaxel |
| I posted an easy mod to make the fogs operate as DRL which also allows "independent" fog operation. It was a few months ago. |
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| Gonzo |
Here are the settings for autolight... eight settings. ILL Function... I had my dealer set it to zero... however it only shuts off after you lock the doors.... not too bad I guess.
Now about that fog light "enhancemment" Where does it live? |
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| Snow MO |
quote:
Originally posted by ekaxel
I posted an easy mod to make the fogs operate as DRL which also allows "independent" fog operation. It was a few months ago.
Just call me NiMo.Org's unofficial searcher - fogs thread |
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| n8t01 |
| Sounds like no one has found the auto light setting in the information display. There is an auto light setting you can modify to set how long you want the lights to stay on when you exit the vehicle. If you set it to zero the lights will automatically turn off when you close the door. It can be set up to 3 min I believe. Oh yeah you can acess this setting if the vehicle is moving. Hope this helps. |
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| midnitexpress |
| N8t01...I believe that's only on the '04's. Not sure if you have to have the Nav system or not. It's not an option on the '03's |
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| Eric L. |
| I thought the auto light setting was only adjustable using Consult II at the dealer. Is it a menu item on 04 NAV models? |
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| midnitexpress |
| It would make sense for user adjustability since it's only a matter of programming, but then I'm not thinking as a bean counter with planned obsolescence in the back of my mind. |
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| MarkY |
quote:
Originally posted by Eric L.
I thought the auto light setting was only adjustable using Consult II at the dealer. Is it a menu item on 04 NAV models?
It IS a menu item on the 04 without NAV. I can't imagine why it wouldn't be the same for an 04 with NAV.
There is also a headlight sensitivity setting. I've set that from one extreme to the other and don't see a bit of difference. |
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| Jim C |
| My US 04 SE with Nav has the settings to adjust auto light sensitivity. I have it shutting off after 30 seconds after last door. |
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| GripperDon |
| My HID are on with Ignition switch ON, no matter WHAT POSITION THE HEADLIGHT SWITCH IS IN. I live in USA and the Car is USA. Any Ideas. I also own a G35 and it does not do this. :confused: |
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| ekaxel |
| It isn't right......... |
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| Eric L. |
quote:
Originally posted by GripperDon
My HID are on with Ignition switch ON, no matter WHAT POSITION THE HEADLIGHT SWITCH IS IN. I live in USA and the Car is USA. Any Ideas. I also own a G35 and it does not do this. :confused:
Are you sure your highbeam switch isn't activated? |
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| GripperDon |
Unfortunately it doesn't matter WHAT I DO with the lamp switch the HID just run, I can go to the high Beam of the HID and I can add the fogs to the low beam of the HID's. I only hope the dealer will fix it I bought this MO yesterday and that the way it came, It took until today to notice it and post this. I don't have any tech manuals but I am a retired engineer so if they can't do it I guess I get the manuals and try myself. I went to the Nissian Tech support site and they now want $202 for the manuals.
Gripper
04, SL, Tour pkg,
Crome Wheels, SS grill
Pewter, Blk Leather |
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| Eric L. |
quote:
Originally posted by GripperDon
Unfortunately it doesn't matter WHAT I DO with the lamp switch the HID just run, I can go to the high Beam of the HID and I can add the fogs to the low beam of the HID's. I only hope the dealer will fix it I bought this MO yesterday and that the way it came, It took until today to notice it and post this. I don't have any tech manuals but I am a retired engineer so if they can't do it I guess I get the manuals and try myself. I went to the Nissian Tech support site and they now want $202 for the manuals.
Gripper
04, SL, Tour pkg,
Crome Wheels, SS grill
Pewter, Blk Leather
It is definitely a defect to have the HIDs on all the time. I hope the dealer can repair whatever is malfunctioning! |
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| jaak |
| Don, register for a day for $19.99 and you can view the manual in Adobe Acrobat. While viewing each section, save it to disk, for later reference... It's over a 100 Meg, but worth it!:) |
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| quailallstar |
| I have an 04 SL and the lights turn off after 2 min when I lock the doors with the remote. |
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| zebelkhan |
| I am wondering if the dealer (or someone at the factory) by mistake reprogrammed the lights as DTRL? |
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| VG. |
OK, I'm having the same problem as the original guy that started this thread...
I always leave my light in the "Auto" position, but suddenly, I have noticed the lights will stay on in the garage... My Murano's battery recently died from this overnight as the lights were on for a good 14 hours straight.
I have tried everything I can think of... all doors are shut, the car is in park... the lights don't shut off after 45 seconds... they don't shut off after 5 minutes... they just don't shut off AT ALL :(
When I took the Mo in for the brake squeal TSB, I told the guy at the service department about it and he said "your key had to be in the ignition"... yeah, thanks for making yourself look like a moron, buddy... since I had to use the key to open the door so I could turn off the lights... gotta love service managers!
Anyhow... has anyone heard about this problem previously or know any solutions? I'm afraid another appt. with NOB is in my future (grumble, grumble) |
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| GripperDon |
| I had my problem on the 04 MO, came from the dealer like that they replaced the Main Light control unit. Under the hood up front near the washer fluid. They also said they changd the IPDM? Whatever it't fixed. TThanks for all the input. GripperDon :D |
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| Murano_driver |
| I went to the dealership today and service manager refuse to change the delay time for the head lights to the time I want (45 sec. default and I want 5 sec). He said he will charge me because they have to use a COMPUTER. :8: |
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