| Murano_MDX |
| hey... installed a bumper guard, and a bug deflector from weather tech... looks great! will post picture tomorrow... i did it at night! if anyone has any questions about these, let me know... overall the install was very very easy! all you really need are screwdrivers and good eyesight! |
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| Enforcer |
| Post pics! And if you can, scan in the instructions create pdfs and send them to admin so he can post them on the knowledge base page. |
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| Murano_MDX |
| bumper guard and weatherdeflector install... |
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| Enforcer |
Looks good. Thanks for the pics!
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| ALPAT |
| I too installed weather tegh bug shield and also windeflectors. Very easy with no problem. Took all of 15 minutes. |
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| i<3mymurano |
| can you put the SAT antenna down with the wind deflector there? i keep it down because when i go to underground parking lots, the SAT antenna seems to kinda hit the top. the murano is too high up with the 18" monsters..:D |
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| ALPAT |
| Here is a picture of the antenna down. Hope this helps |
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| jpburk |
quote: Originally posted by i<3mymurano
can you put the SAT antenna down with the wind deflector there? i keep it down because when i go to underground parking lots, the SAT antenna seems to kinda hit the top. the murano is too high up with the 18" monsters..:D
i<3mymurano, that's not a SAT antenna. It's just a plain ol' AM/FM antenna.
Are you really driving into an underground parking lot with only 6 feet of clearance??? Don't you get claustrophobic? My head would scrape the top, too! :eek:
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| Murano_MDX |
| that's prob what he meant... yeah i dont think that the antenna would get hit in a parking garage... the murano is pretty low to the ground... |
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| rainbowfarm |
I got the deflectors (rain, moonroof, bug), rear bumper, side rails, floor mat (4) and rear tray all from Nissan... the rain deflectors were on when I drove it last night. They do not obstruct visibility as some brands do. Translucent/opaque... seeable throughable.
That's a lot of rubber and plastic!
Two new cars at work have been scraped in the parking. I guess I'll have to take the Olds to work, leave MO in garage. Why did I buy it?
Or arrive early and get a good spot. |
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| Enforcer |
quote: Originally posted by rainbowfarm
I got the deflectors (rain, moonroof, bug), rear bumper, side rails, floor mat (4) and rear tray all from Nissan... the rain deflectors were on when I drove it last night. They do not obstruct visibility as some brands do. Translucent/opaque... seeable throughable.
That's a lot of rubber and plastic!
Two new cars at work have been scraped in the parking. I guess I'll have to take the Olds to work, leave MO in garage. Why did I buy it?
Or arrive early and get a good spot.
Wait a minute! I'm :confused: . I thought you were still researching? When did you make the leap? And where are the pics? |
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| rainbowfarm |
The day I sold the PF, about two hours later, I picked an '03 that has been there since I first started looking.
They are already wait-listing the '04s.
That was last Monday. They have been doing paper work and accessorizing since then. When they're done, it'll have plate, plastic, rubber, and all the payment stuff.
Purchase goes through company, and there was a change, so the banks are all talking to each other, and man are they slow! They are blaming the power failure from August for being "behind" about 5 days in everything.
After 3 months, though, I can wait a few days. I won't have to run around chasing all the accessories: they will all be installed before delivery.
They're debating how much tint is legal in my province (goes by registration), since they are in Ontario. |
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| Enforcer |
Well I was gone for a few days and sometimes I don't seem to get every new post on the new posts link. Not sure why that is. Most likely a problem on my end between the fire wall, IE and NAV.
Anyhow, congrats!!!!!!!! |
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| rainbowfarm |
| Not the easiest "wait" I've ever had. Getting anxious and excited for that first ride that is not a test-drive. |
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| hfelknor |
RF, we're all waiting with you. Probably be next week now?
Anyway BOL with your light black Murano.
Homer |
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| rainbowfarm |
I think you had the right idea, Homer. Pay for it and leave with it. I started preparing to do something along those lines if they bog this down in banking "stuff".
Thanks for the "welcome mat"!
I wonder if Enforcer missed your great joke about my record "Most posts by a non-owner". |
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| Enforcer |
I did, in fact, I almost missed this one. These last posts by you guys didn't show up on my new posts link. By chance I saw you were the last poster to this thread and opened it. Geez, I've got to figure this problem out...
Anyways, back to the subject...looks good Murano_MDX and ALPAT! Can either of you two scan in the instructions for the wind deflector? |
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| hfelknor |
You need to get hold of the Moderator and just raise hell.
Homer |
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| Murano_MDX |
| i can scan the instructions in gif file format... can you convert it to pdf? |
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| Enforcer |
LOL! Good one Homer!
Murano_MDX, yes sir. Will PM you. |
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| rainbowfarm |
I got one of the "falling off by itself" bug deflectors from Nissan that someone else wrote about.
It's held on by Allan (hex) screws with a plastic/nylon/rubbery thing between the screw and the hood.
One side is loose. It dropped and scraped the headlight housing (is that plastic or glass?).
Tomorrow they'll fix it (and finally give me my licence plate). Stupid Quebec government has delayed the transfer of the Pathfinder and the plating of the MO. Finally threw enough paper at them to make them happy.
Nissan cancelled my old plate (says they can't reuse a plate from a lease, but a woman I work with kept the plates from her leased Honda).
I say "plate" but I mean "tag". I say "plates" but in QC, we only get one.
Old habits. We used to get two (when I lived in Ontario). |
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| Mosh |
| Now it looks like a smiling robot with a mustache |
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| Murano_MDX |
:3:
lol... i dont see it... but grrrrr still! :3: |
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| rainbowfarm |
I don't remember where the thread is about Nissan's exploding bug deflector vs. the 2nd edition of it.
Mine was loose. They tightened it. Then it flapped twice (one side) like gull wings, just before exploding into many pieces.
Somewhere in the gyrating, it did a lot of damage to the hood paint (right down to the primer).
I need to make sure that the replacement is version 2. They put a call in to Canada Head Office in Toronto. |
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| esemes |
quote: Originally posted by rainbowfarm
I don't remember where the thread is about Nissan's exploding bug deflector vs. the 2nd edition of it.
Mine was loose. They tightened it. Then it flapped twice (one side) like gull wings, just before exploding into many pieces.
Somewhere in the gyrating, it did a lot of damage to the hood paint (right down to the primer).
I need to make sure that the replacement is version 2. They put a call in to Canada Head Office in Toronto.
what happened, is the guard, or wing , began to vibrate at a very hi rate........ and then hit a 'resonance frequency' of sorts....aided by the onset of rushing wind.....
causing it to fail....... miserably......i wouldn't be so sure it wouldnt happen again..... (if the design of the guard is unchanged) |
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| rainbowfarm |
| Either here or on FA, there is a thread about a redesigned bug deflector from Nissan. I need to find out how to recognize the new one, and make sure I get it before they reinstall. |
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| Murano_MDX |
| rainbow... buy it from weathertech... easy install and cheap! and you know it wont break! |
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| rainbowfarm |
The reason I got it all done by Nissan is:
okay, the reasons are:
It all became part of the vehicle cost and lease. Suppose the car is totalled or stolen. All that stuff is part of the replacement cost insurance (either from Nissan or from my insurer).
I really would not have had time to locate all of the accessories, and have them installed. This is not a task I would do myself (even if I had the time).
The dealer is now responsible for all of it. Had anything not come from Nissan and caused damage, that would be their "out".
They will be resolving the issue and repainting (there was already some paint damage when I picked it up and it's already got a reservation at the beauty parlour).
It will all work itself out. When they need to fix things, they come to the house, leave me a car, and leave with the MO, which is all I have time for these days.
Besides work, work, and work, we have added three rooms here, and a huge garden that's screaming to be harvested, canned, and frozen. Before winter, we have to get a backhoe, gravel, etc. in here, and the construction crews have to be cleared out (with all the materials) first.
Every day, besides making sure they all showed up, have coffee, and remember which end of the hammer is which (and a gentle reminder that the blue side of the roofing tiles goes up), I try to make sure that they are all still doing what the plan says. That does not always happen (door in the front please.
Good thing we have a long weekend (Canuck Thanksgiving). I can take a break from all of it.
Funny, two big chunks out of the hood of the nicest and most expensive car I've ever owned don't even really bother me. It will all get resolved. Compared to some of the mistakes they've made here since spring, this is a walk in the park.
To put it all into perspective, in less than a year, I turned bush into orchard and garden, with walks, roads, buildings, etc., and have resolved major ground water issues, almost on a daily basis.
It changes your attitude about what to sweat and what not to sweat (it all becomes small stuff after a while). |
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| hfelknor |
Then what diff does it make which version of the deflector you use?
I would assume the dealer is doing all this gratis anyway since he is in complete control of what goes on the car and how. Between him and Nissan the liabilities are rather concentrated.
Whcih of course is a major part of your reasoning as I see it.
Let him put on whatever version he thinks is best. He is the one who accepts the liability right?
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| rainbowfarm |
Yes, in the end, if they want to keep making the same mistake... but it becomes a nuisance to keep getting it changed and repainted.
I'm sure they'll figure it out soon enough. I would like to get the right thing on and staying on. |
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| Enforcer |
| I once heard the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing expecting a different result. Based on this and my experience with the feathering issue on the Z, I can honestly say Nissan is :ucrazy:. |
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| hfelknor |
You know guys, I have to admit I'm just amazed at Nissan.
Now first of all, as you read the following, understand that I am NOT anti-Japanese cars.
For crying out loud, I owned Datsuns when some people around here were babys. And maybe before some were born! New - 1977 810, 1981 200SX, Used 1977 Z 2+2, 1985 510
I also bought a new 1999 Mazda Miata.
And I have just got done spending +30K on a Murano.
So, when it comes to being anti-japanese, I rest my case.
However.
I have driven "mostly" American cars for <> 45 years. Some good ones too like an new 57 Ford Convert, 1963 Sunbeam Alpine, 88 Corvette, and a new 92 Taurus SHO and an new 89 Mustang LX 5x5.
And it always seemed to me that Japanese car owners (JCOs for brevity) were a pain in the a$$. They were always touting how much better their cars were, etc. They were always talking about how dumb Ford and Chevy and Chryco were. And how they built real POS.
Well, I have seen the light.
I have bought New Japan again. I am a JCO.
What a crock!
It amazes me that Nissan stays in business!
They have got to be MUCH more screwed up than ANY American car company.
Can we spell SAT?
Well of course that was the 2003s.
ALL the 2003s.
For the whole year!
And they HAD a "fix' IN HOUSE! IN HOUSE FOR GOODNESS SAKE!
AND GUESS WHAT???!!!!
It looks like this monkey drill is carrying over to the 2004s!!!!!
You want to buy some advertised extras like Chrome wheels?
No problem sir. We ship some every 4 or 5 months!
Rattles? Surely you are talking about a chevy, right? You CAN'T be talking about Japanese quality?!
You say there are many cases of squealing brakes?
(Did I tell you guys of my wasted trip to Nissan about my squealing brakes?)
That's probably Ford sir.
What happens if your alternator goes out? The fact that a part fails is not anything to be upset about, but.........you have to wait for weeks and weeks until they ship one from Japan? Just like early JCOs had to do, IN THE 60s!
As you can see, most "issues" surround manufacturing & QC, which is SUPPOSED to be where Japan holds an advantage, and company organization which is the most abysmal in the industry IMO.
Honest to goodness, after living with Ameriacn cars (mostly) for the last 20 years, and then watching this parade of incompetency I must say that either
A- Most JCOs are either very naive or maybe even liars about their cars/car companys, OR
B- Nissan is NOT a typical Japanese car company and the other Japanese car companys are ahead of Nissan for these very reasons.
In othere words, the reason that Nissan is #3 (I assume they are #3) is because that's all they deserve to be.
In any event, I am newly amazed about something every day it seems.
And yet I have been told by other JCOs that you buy a Japanese car and forget it.
That is simply not true.
I don't know about the other Japanese, but Nissan doesn't know what the hell they are doing.
Anyway,
Rant Off/
I am actually liking the actual car more, the longer I own it. Which is kinda normal for me as a I a real PITA about break in and therefore have not had any real fun yet.:cool:
Got almost 700 miles now, Another 500 and we'll see what this puppy will do. I'm up to driving it pretty well "normal" now, although I am still just throwing it in Ds, but not accellerating, just to vary the RPMs.
Yep, this is going to end up being a good car, providing the car company doesn't screw the pooch.
Homer :1: |
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| hfelknor |
You are the one who claimed Nissan was crazy.
I can't argue with that either.
Homer:1: |
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| Enforcer |
As Tenel Ka would say..."This is a fact." :D
Rainbowfarm, I would suggest the Weathertech to the dealer because I doubt the Nissan one has changed. IE I'd ask them what they think has changed to prevent this one from doing the same thing. If it has though, that would be a consideration. |
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hfelknor,
I guess I must be the lucky one. Have had no problems with my M-0, 96 Maxima, 2k Maxima. Like you I love it more everyday. Even the SAT thing was no problem because at the time I purchased my M-O I could care less about SAT radio. Because of all the complaining about it spiked my curiousity. I just installed it last night and I love it!!!! It was very easy to install with all the instuctions posted here.
I have 15,000 miles on my M-O and the gas milage is getting better and better. I avg. 21.8 at between 70-80MPH Highway 300-500 mile trip. When I avg 60-65 I get 23.4 MPG. No rattles, No CVT slippages. Now remember this is a first year vechicle and yes its Japanese/French. My father always told me dont buy the 1st year of a new car. So its a given that it takes a little longer to get parts. Nissan dealers are not stocking up on Murano alternators ect because its very rare that one goes out so soon. Hope you enjoy your M-O once the engines broken in!! Look on the brightside at least your not one of the people that were holding out for the new Infinity QX56.... They missed the boat on that one BIGTIME. At least the Armada sales will skyrocket!!! |
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| hfelknor |
quote: Originally posted by Chancie23
OK Homer, so you think we're a bunch of screw ups do you? (I'm an accessory engineer for Nissan and I kind of take it personally) Then why did you buy the car? As for the Satellite radio thing, there is only ONE guy in our accessory group right now who handles the satellite radio for every Nissan and Infiniti in the U.S. He's churning them out as fast as he can but there are only 24 hours in a day. As for the chrome wheels, do you have any clue just how much testing they must go through? I'd guess not.
Thanks for proving my point.
There is ONE guy in a corp the size of Nissan working on the SAT radio project?:rolleyes:
The chrome wheels are the stock wheels.
Any additional testing was completed before the first wheel shipped. The first wheel shipped at least 9 months ago. The problem is manufacturing/distribution/marketing.
I'm sorry. There are no excuses in business. Yes Nissan has a bunch of screwups working for them. And it probably starts in the Frenchmans office.
OTOH, the corp would be a corpse if it weren't for him and all those lovely french francs.
But they are VERY profitable now, and there is no need to cut payroll so far to the bone that entire departments are ineffective.
And as to the challenging "why did I buy the car"?
As I said in the post. I like the car. duh.
What I don't like is "some" of the engineering, the manufacturing, and the marketing.
Esp the marketing.
We have a word for it here in the US when you market somethig you don't have.
I've been pretty lucky too ---j-----.
And like you, I recognize that it apparently is luck.
I only continue to have the Brake Squeal problem. The dealer and I are having little luck in seeing eye to eye on this. They now admit to having "several" complaints and no real fix. The are pressuring NNA for a fix, but they admit that that may not have any positive outcome.
I DID have the famous "popping" noise (From the B pillar I think) but it went away. :) just like that, it came and just like that it went. Weird sound. I think there is a fix for this one but of course the tech has to hear it.
BTW did I see that every 3.5 L V6 ever made has to be recalled?
Well actually there are 2.5 million of them, I don't know that that is all of them.
Seems to be some sensor "in" the motor?
I wonder what that could be?
I know of sensors that "control" the motor.
I know of sensors "On" the motor.
But a sensor IN the motor?
Anybody have any ideas?
BTW it is not at all clear at this point that this recall affects the Murano, but don't be surprised, or disappointed, if it does.
"Most" recalls don't bother me. I mean what can you do when you find out a part from one of your suppliers fails prematurely, etc?
So, I see a Recall as a Fix and i think Fixes are good things.
Of course you CAN have too much of a good thing. ;)
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Homer did you get your stock wheels alloyed? I have an extra set of OEM wheels and tires for my M-O I picked up awhile back. Can I get those chromed?
As far as things going wrong....One thing I failed to mention. The Oxygen Sensors (or least on the Maxima's) many go out after 40,000 miles. There are two on a Maxima and I think the same on the M-O. YOU CANNOT purchase the proper sensor anywhere accept through Nissan Parts. They are also the most expensive in the market. You owning lots of Domestic cars in your past know that when a sensor went bad you could go to Advance Auto Parts, NAPA or the locally owned store and pick one up for about $20.00 at the most. Nissan wants anywhere from $125.00 to 220.00 for each one. And like clock work they go out at 40,000 - 60,000 miles. Guess its not that bad if its the only thing you have to pay for but its a $20.00 part!!!!!! |
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| Saw the Ion Wheel in the gallery of Pictures very nice. You should peel that SAT sticker off your dash and send it back to Nissan with pictures of you newly installed XM Harness. |
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| hfelknor |
----j---------you can get those wheels chromed.
there are several services that do it. Google it.
That's really what i wanted.
Probably why I am so sensitive about it.
It started with me trying to order the Chrome Wheels (In the accesory Brochure) from Nissan when I bot the car.
No dice. (I understand NOW why the dealer wouldn't go down that road!).
Then I ordered a set (And paid for them) thru the parts depts.
I was too naive (At age 65!_ at that point to think there would be a problem.
Shoot, this was the second time I had ordered Chromed wheels when I bot the car..............Ford and Chrysler.
After a couple of weeks I caled them and asked what the heck was going on, I also checked here and saw that people had been witing for months! Houston, we have a problem.
It was impossible at that time for me to have MY stock wheels chromed because the Platers didn't have any cores. So I would have had the Murano, up on blocks for two weeks. This is our only car.
So I bot the Ions. They weren't exactly what I wanted, but with some things in life, you take what you can get.
Then I sold the wheels on Ebay.
Ironically enough, I sold them to a Plater, OK Wheels, in N Hollywood CAlif. Nice guys to do buisness with.
That SAT sticker is long gone. I saw no need to embarrass myself with every person who ever rode in the Murano.
Those are IMPRESSIVE prices on the O2 sensor. :3:
O2's fail on lots of cars but 40K is a little short. ;)
And if I have to pay over $100 for one, much less over $200, the world is going to here my thoughts on Nissan parts and they aren't going to like it any more than they like my opinion of The Nissan Corp Marketing.
Have you ever tried cleaning the sensor?
The ones on my 88 Vette could be cleaned and they were good as new.
Seems like with this V6 being used in everything Nissan makes, it should be ubiquitous after awhile and maybe somebody will sell it on the aftermarket.
Well, anyway, the car is up over 800 miles now and soon I am going to start rapping it. I can hardly wait.
One thing that I really like about it is, compared to my old Minivan, this car feels "agile". I never realized it, but the Mini felt "ponderous" compared to the Murano.
Neat trick on a 187" 4000 pound "truck". :D
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| There are 2 Murano's in the Sub-division I live in that CAME with Nissan Chrome Wheels. Ok if they are not OEM then why is there NO difference other than the color. Why do the owners then tell me they came off of the transport trucks With Chrome wheels. I think what your trying to tell us Chancie is the Chrome Wheels for the Murano are not available to order from your Nissan dealer. Nissan is fitting certain lucky Murano's with the Chrome package but not offering them to purchase separately. |
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| jaak |
| I think you have to know Japanese and French to really find out what's happening... The SL wheels, which appear to be the same base for the Chrome wheels, are made in Belgium. |
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| jaak |
| And related to Renault? |
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| Murano_MDX |
| my thread has been hijacked! :behead: :headshake :1pat: :cursin: :soapbox: :banghead: |
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| jaak |
Yeah, don't ya just hate that!!!
I keep looking for something decent for the front, but have yet to see anything I like....
I'm half tempted to buy the Nissan one and modify it by adding some tubing that flows with the lines of the front bumper. Like going along the leading edge, wrapping around the fog lights and coming back to the main bar. Also a bar across, just at the bottom opening to the rad.
Hmmm... If I had some graphics software to do it....
Anyone feel like trying some ideas? |
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| dk4500 |
| For the rear Bumper guard...do they come in different colors...does your color match the grey bottom or black mud guards?...and, are they applied with adhesive? More info please. |
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| Murano_MDX |
quote: Originally posted by dk4500
For the rear Bumper guard...do they come in different colors...does your color match the grey bottom or black mud guards?...and, are they applied with adhesive? More info please.
Comes in one color, black. There is an adhesive already on there, it's double sided tape. Basically, you line it up and strip the coating off the tape and apply pressure as you strip the tape and push against the bumper. It's really straightforward and you won't have any problems with it. |
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| jaak |
Yeah, I was looking at the WAAG, but not so sure I like it... It's a modification of a pretty standard format they use, and while it's wrapped around, it's a little too close to the fog lights for me. It also tries to put the WAAG styling on the Murano, as opposed to making something that really flows with the Murano.
Best I've seen so far... But I'm still considering a modification of the OEM one. |
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