| Doombringer |
Okay, I've dealt with this problem ever since I took ownership. I figured it might go away as the vehicle 'settled' and all the materials weathered, but noooo...
My driver and passenger windows (and very rarely the rear pass/driver) rattle. Or, more accurately, something is rattling against them and it resonates across the entire window surface. This sounds like a tapping or a creaking (but with a more rapid report, like a *tap!*) and happens in two situations:
Driver's side will tap when hitting a bump on the passenger side. Usually these are creases between sections of paved road. Sudden, quick, snappy bumps.
Passenger side will tap when hitting a similar bump on the driver side.
Both sides will tap if whatever causes the bump hits both sides of the car.
Also, occasionally tapping when the vehicle's weight shifts, like going around curves.
These only happen when the windows are fully up. These also happen MUCH more frequently if it is cold outside, often to the point where -any- bump will result in tap-tap-tap.
Given the topics on "the other Murano forum", people have had a variety of solutions for this. A variety of problems, I imagine. One dude took his door apart and tweaked something where the window rests. Frankly, I don't know what to do.
My MO is going in for 7500 service soon, and I will mention it to the techs. Again. The first time, they heard it on my initial drive, but then couldn't reproduce it (that old line) on subsequent test drives. They must've driven it around their nicely paved, smooth parking lot, because on any normal road, it'll do it. Often.
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| esemes |
607 miles here
EXACTLY what i was experiencing today.......
intermittant, but still...... if i zip the window down, then back up, i am guaranteed to have the 'click' or 'tap' occur.....
SO FAR, the DS window only.........
glad to know im not crazy (well thas debatable)
sms |
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| lnichols |
| I may have something similar hapenning. I also get a vibration from Bose Bass in the driver door and thought it was plastic rattelling together. I will have to roll down the window and see if it still rattles. |
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| Doombringer |
Some clarifications and additions...
What the tapping is NOT:
It is not the seatbelt pillar. This is something directly involving the door and window.
It is not the 'click' you hear after using the Auto Up feature on the driver/passenger windows.
Other occurances/causes:
If playing a song with a good deal of bass (causing the door woofers to really throw out some vibrations), the rattling will happen much more readily. The bass rumbling is not enough to cause the rattle alone, but instead the rattle will happen more frequently at lighter bumps or weight-shifts than without the bass going.
I'd normally say it is something in the door, but the propensity for it to happen more often when it is COLD outside leads me to believe it is the fit of a seal against the window, or something that would fit 'better' when warmer (because materials expand when warm, duh).
Hmm. Hmm. Hmm... |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by Doombringer
Some clarifications and additions...
What the tapping is NOT:
It is not the seatbelt pillar. This is something directly involving the door and window.
It is not the 'click' you hear after using the Auto Up feature on the driver/passenger windows.
Other occurances/causes:
If playing a song with a good deal of bass (causing the door woofers to really throw out some vibrations), the rattling will happen much more readily. The bass rumbling is not enough to cause the rattle alone, but instead the rattle will happen more frequently at lighter bumps or weight-shifts than without the bass going.
I'd normally say it is something in the door, but the propensity for it to happen more often when it is COLD outside leads me to believe it is the fit of a seal against the window, or something that would fit 'better' when warmer (because materials expand when warm, duh).
Hmm. Hmm. Hmm...
all good ideas and observations, but for us newbies, what is the big N doing to remey this??? like i stated above, 607 miles only... (not even two tanks of fuel) an its a regular player(occurance) in my car....
i tried tightening the screw behind the SRS boxout(panel), to no avail....
S
***edited to correct spelling and clarity***
ps- my "d" key oftentimes sticks, and makes my posts horrid; i apologize! |
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| Enforcer |
quote:
Originally posted by esemes
all good ideas and observations, but for us newbies, what is the big N oing to remey this??? like i stated above, 607 miles only... (not even two tanks of fuel) an its a regular player in my car....
i tired tightening the screw behinf the SRS boxout, to no avail....
S
Esemes, maybe it's just me...but...what are you saying?
Doom, yo! Thought you left us or something! Welcome back. That thread about removing the door panel and making the adjustments is something I would try if the dealer couldn't fix the problem. See this thread to get prepared for your dealer visit. I would make them ride with me to "replicate" it. |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by Enforcer
Esemes, maybe it's just me...but...what are you saying?
Doom, yo! Thought you left us or something! Welcome back. That thread about removing the door panel and making the adjustments is something I would try if the dealer couldn't fix the problem. See this thread to get prepared for your dealer visit. I would make them ride with me to "replicate" it.
Enf-
i will try the dealer, and soon...... they have misled me on the XM(left me an apology on my voicemail, correcting themselves to say i need to buy a receiver, and some 'wires' to have xm...), forgotten my cargo net (on my window sticker,so i know i get one), and get this..........
they told me to 'feel free' to switch INTO AWD, by pushing the lockout button.... and at any speed, on any surface..... (this goes 100% against the OM)
i was told my MO is FWD until i punch the lockout button.... thence making it AWD...
cripes... i have derailed this thread, and gotten off topic, so im sorry..... |
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| Enforcer |
LOL!
np, we have a thread on infamous dealer quotes. Their stupidity never ceases to amaze me. Well, you read the manual so you know the deal with the AWD Lock. Any surface yes, but only locks them under 18mph.
You know, since they admit to misleading you on the XM...:D
Let us know how it turns out with the dealer. |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by Enforcer
LOL!
np, we have a thread on infamous dealer quotes. Their stupidity never ceases to amaze me. Well, you read the manual so you know the deal with the AWD Lock. Any surface yes, but only locks them under 18mph.
You know, since they admit to misleading you on the XM...:D
Let us know how it turns out with the dealer.
ADMIT ON VOICEMAIL nonetheless.......
and what timing, i jus got the NNA questionaire in the mail today....
between the window pop, the XM flop, and the dealer slop, i gotta lot to discuss..... (but will give the ealer a chance to first make me feel better....then its time to stirr the pot)
has anyone won out on the xm scenario (or lack thereof)???
id love to know how, or what tool they used to initiate this..... |
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| Enforcer |
Well...at least they admitted it and didn't try to :bsflag: their way out of it.
Jaak is the expert, he might know...Jaak?
I'd at least make them sweat. Might get a radio harness out of it instead of buying it from Grubbs. |
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| Doombringer |
Nah, I'm still kickin' around ;)
Had some traveling to do, so I fell off in both forums. Back now. |
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| Enforcer |
| Welcome back! Are you going to get the dealer to fix it? |
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| Doombringer |
I will mention it to them when I bring it in for 7500 mile service, Tuesday morning. I'll try to schedule a saturday appointment for them to have the vehicle and drive it, or at least go out with me. Saturday appointments are like gold and the next one is probably a month from now ;)
The good news is that with it getting colder out (throughout the day, not just in the morning) it will be much easier to hear this thing and hopefully diagnose it. |
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| lmuscella |
| I also have had this problem since day one. My rattling has become more noticeable also since it has gotten colder. I have a couple of rattles but my major rattle is exactly in the windows. It only occurs when the windows are fully up. I have been lowering the windows just slightly to avoid the rattling. It seems to help. I have talked to the dealer and they said that they can adjust the window so it doesn't close as tightly. I don't know if it will leak but they said that they were aware of this problem. I'll let you know what happens. My Saturday appt is in 3 weeks! |
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| jaak |
quote:
Originally posted by Enforcer
Well...at least they admitted it and didn't try to :bsflag: their way out of it.
Jaak is the expert, he might know...Jaak?
I'd at least make them sweat. Might get a radio harness out of it instead of buying it from Grubbs.
I haven't heard of any more on XM. I suspect it is what it is, and Nissan is content to supply the parts through Infiniti dealers. Really silly, as they must think we're morons if we truly believe Infiniti is anything more than an different label for high end Nissans.
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by jaak
I haven't heard of any more on XM. I suspect it is what it is, and Nissan is content to supply the parts through Infiniti dealers. Really silly, as they must think we're morons if we truly believe Infiniti is anything more than an different label for high end Nissans.
:rolleyes:
today, over the phone, my dealer told me he was gonna try and find the g35 receiver at a dealer cost, and ifso, BUY IT FOR ME... along WITH the harness......
anyone have a part number???? or, anyone know if grubbs offers a dealer discount??
heres to hopin!!!:blahblah: |
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| pat |
| ALL MO's have this problem. It is intensified during periods of colder weather as a direct result of material contraction due to temperature and a window that is already "ill' fitted. Summertime driving will not be as noticeable as materials expand with temperature. |
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| lnichols |
quote:
Originally posted by pat
ALL MO's have this problem. It is intensified during periods of colder weather as a direct result of material contraction due to temperature and a window that is already "ill' fitted. Summertime driving will not be as noticeable as materials expand with temperature.
Pat, is this a Nissan-known issue and do they have a fix? I have this exact same problem. After Doom's post I started listening more and it is the window rattling and since it has been in the 40's here overnight it is getting worse. |
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| Gonzo |
| Has there been any new findings with this? I didn't think much about it but I had some window noises with the window down when first starting to move. Not very loud but unexpected with a new car. |
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| Doombringer |
Glad to see this problem is still as widespread as I first thought it was...
Not that it is a good thing, just a good thing to know I'm not alone :P
These 44 degree mornings make my commute a rattling mess. Sigh. Other than this, my MO is great. Those heated seats RULE! |
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| lnichols |
Well I went to the dealer this morning for an oil change and drove the tech out to hear the rattle. Long story short he finally heard the rattle, took the door panel off, did something, and now it may be fixed. I want to wait till I hit some more bumps to say that it is fixed for sure, but the drive from the dealer to the office was promissing.
I have to call the dealer to let them know if it worked. If it did I will talk to the tech to see what he did and post it.
They also ordered a new rear cup holder since mine doesn't want to stay shut, and does not want to close without 5 or so tries. |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by lnichols
Well I went to the dealer this morning for an oil change and drove the tech out to hear the rattle. Long story short he finally heard the rattle, took the door panel off, did something, and now it may be fixed. I want to wait till I hit some more bumps to say that it is fixed for sure, but the drive from the dealer to the office was promissing.
I have to call the dealer to let them know if it worked. If it did I will talk to the tech to see what he did and post it.
They also ordered a new rear cup holder since mine doesn't want to stay shut, and does not want to close without 5 or so tries.
PLEASE!! find out what was altered..........
:4: :4: :4: here's hoping!!
eSe |
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| jetnbye |
Does anybody know if the 04's have the same rattle or perhaps Nissan fixed it.
Then again, why wait for a new model year to fix a minor problem (large to some of us).
Pending 04 Pewter/Cafe Latte/SE Non-NAV |
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| lnichols |
Rattle is still there. Came back this morning on the way into work. It does seem to rattle less often though so the door adjustment did something.
I have to go back in when the rear cup holder comes in and have them try it again. |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by lnichols
Rattle is still there. Came back this morning on the way into work. It does seem to rattle less often though so the door adjustment did something.
I have to go back in when the rear cup holder comes in and have them try it again.
dang........... :(
i was hopin!!
keep after it..... i soon will try myself! |
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| fcbayern |
| I don't know whether we had the same noise as anyone else, but it was annoying. We had heard it only occasionally for short periods over a couple of weeks. The next time you drove it, it would be gone. A month ago, we left the house to drive to Maine (from St Louis). An hour into the trip, the noise started. To me, the driver, it sounded like it was coming from the rear of the interior compartment. But my wife thought it was in the dash. She started moving her head to different spots to determine where it was coming from. It sounded more like an electical switch click than a rattle. At one point, it sounded to me like it was coming from the door speakers. She was sure that it was coming from the windshield. I thought it had to be in the back. I am going to exceed the max message length, so see the next post, if you want to read the rest. |
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| fcbayern |
| She started playing around at the back of the rear view mirror and it quit. It came back later that day, so she held the wiring at the back of the mirror and it immediately quit. Over the last month, it has returned twice. Both times, she pressed on the assembly and the wire back there and it quit. It hasn't been back for two weeks. The windshield must have spread the sound like an amphitheater. Sorry about the length of the post, but I hope that this helps someone. |
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| esemes |
MY rattle (LHS) is definately the oor panel striking the glass of the window........
if i press my elbow against the armrest (after it again makes the pop) the sounds cease............ |
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| Doombringer |
That's funny esemes, I tried that same fix this morning and the sound vanished or quieted down for as long as I pressed against the armrest.
At least that helps narrow it down a bit. |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by Doombringer
That's funny esemes, I tried that same fix this morning and the sound vanished or quieted down for as long as I pressed against the armrest.
At least that helps narrow it down a bit.
ALSO, IF YOU PULL ON THE ARMREST, the sound stopps happening........ |
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| ALPAT |
Just got back from my dealer after having to have my bose radio replaced. I mentioned the window noise to him and he gave me a copy of the tsb that just came out Oct 1. I am not to sure if this will fix the problem but Nissan must be aware that there is one
TSB-Classification# BT03-036 Reference #NTB03-090 Titled 2003-04 Murano; Noise from door window area. They ordered the parts , will keep updated as to results |
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| esemes |
ALP-
where can i view this TSB??
im going (popp) window (popp) rattle (popp) craaazy (popp)
scott
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| ALPAT |
| My dealer gave me a copy. I assume it was from the Nissan TSB site that Enforcer talks about. If someone could exlplain how to put scanned items on the post I could try to scan it |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by ALPAT
My dealer gave me a copy. I assume it was from the Nissan TSB site that Enforcer talks about. If someone could exlplain how to put scanned items on the post I could try to scan it
email me, and i'll reduce it to a more friendly size for posting....
admin@gsxrpaddock.com |
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| ALPAT |
| OK will do. he also gave me the TSB for the doors lock/unlock and/or windows roll down intermttently. He said it has something to do with the wiring harness that they would have to go into |
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| Doombringer |
Drooool... a TSB! FINALLY!
Post it! POOOOST IT! Pleeease! We wants it... |
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| esemes |
waiting for email..........
will post ASAP........
((cannot find the tsb on the niss site, or the nhtsa site)) |
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| Doombringer |
| I'm thinking I'll just call my dealer and see if they know about this... |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by Doombringer
I'm thinking I'll just call my dealer and see if they know about this...
let me know when you do........... |
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| ALPAT |
| doombringer I wasn't able to scan the TSB for the window rattle but here is the classification# BTO3-036,reference# NTB03-090. Hope this helps. The Tsb for the window going down and the door locking problem is classifiction#EL03-009 reference#NTB03-033. |
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| esemes |
okay, now im confused.......
TSB bt0-036 (noise from door windoiw area) cannot be found on the dealers end, or thru NNA's system.....
in fact, NNA told me theres no info at all in regards to the doors or window rattles on the muranos..........
wheres this tsb report??? (NNA gave me a fax # to call them on) |
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| Doombringer |
ALPAT, that's all well and good, but according to esemes, that TSB doesn't exist. He's even checked with Nissan North America.
This is a Murano TSB, right?
We'll need to see proof, somehow. If you have a fax machine, you can fax me a copy of the TSB... |
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| esemes |
jus to clarify.........
im not sayin ALP is wrong, im jus sayin i have had NO LUCK finding any supporting info here.......
before i goto the dealer, i wanted to be as armed as possible......... |
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| Doombringer |
| Okay, that clears things up a bit esemes. Did you check with your dealership, then? I haven't called mine yet. |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by Doombringer
Okay, that clears things up a bit esemes. Did you check with your dealership, then? I haven't called mine yet.
i called the dealership (arghhhh) and they searched and searched... no bulletins on record (theirs)
then i phobed NNA and they searched (and searched) thru all the MO tsb's and warranty and recall files and still turned up nothing.... they did give me a fax # to send them any documents i may find...... (as they said its a slim chance they missed it)
now what??
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| Gonzo |
| How do you view these TSBs.... would like a copy. :confused: |
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| Doombringer |
Viewing TSBs is a bit of a pain...
Nissan has a site for them, but you have to pay to view the TSB information. You can see what TSBs are out there for free... but nothing more than their titles and #'s.
National Highway Safety Something also has a site with TSB and recall information, if I remember right. Theirs is a bit more informative.
Links to both are in the sticky in the Problems forum called "Technical Service Bulletins".
The problem HERE is that ALPAT apparently has a TSB for Murano window/door rattling that Nissan itself does not have. :confused: |
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| lmuscella |
| I get my Mo looked at on the 10/27 for the window rattles. I'll post whatever the outcome is. |
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| Gonzo |
| So does anyone have a copy of this "TSB"? I can't seem to find one and I thought I read here that someone did have a copy. Its nice to share..... :rolleyes: |
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| Doombringer |
That's exactly the problem, Gonzo. Alpat says he got it from his dealership when they fixed his problem, but we haven't seen proof of it and NNA/dealerships are saying that this TSB does not exist.
It's pretty frustrating :mad:
It was a particularly cold morning today and man, my MO windows rattled all the way to work :( |
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| Kris |
| is getting colder here as well and unfortunately my window rattles as well........It is driving me nuts............let's hope something can be done to fix it. |
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| ALPAT |
| Doombringer I wasn't able to get my scanner working so I took a picture of the TSB and e-mailed it to esemes. If you want a picture also I will e-mail you one. For some reason it said it was too large to post |
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| esemes |
i have an image of the TSB....
it DOES exist (why no one knows about it is a mystery).....
ALPAT was right,......... i hope i didnt discredit him with my findings...i apologize.......
heres the image |
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| esemes |
i am trying to clean it up....
ALPAT.... any chance for a zoomed in pic??? i will gladly post it here for you!!
SMS |
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| esemes |
| negative isnt much better |
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| esemes |
| last try (for now) |
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| esemes |
i can read all of this one....
looks like Nissan addressed this issue on build dates after aug 2003 |
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| Doombringer |
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
It exists! Holy hallelujah!
Now we just need... a perfect copy...
Alpat, that offer to fax it to me is still open. You can even use my work fax. It is 215 504 4940
I guarantee you that I will have this puppy online in every conceivable format within mere moments :P (well, as long as I'm at work to get it!)
You can PM or email me for my home fax #
My MO is going in on Nov 8th for this. It'll be great to reference the TSB #.. would also be good to smack them with a hard copy of it ;)
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Here's the text of the bulletin as I can read it:
SERVICE BULLETIN
Classification: BT03-036
Date October 1 2003
2003-2004 MURANO; NOISE FROM DOOR WINDOW AREA
Applied Vehicle: 2003-2004 Murano (Z50)
Applied Date: Vehicles built before August 4, 2003
Applied VINs: Vehicles build before JN8AZ08T*4W 200101, JN8AZ08W*4W 300101
IF YOU CONFIRM:
A "tick" noise is heard from the driver's or passenger's front or back door window glass area when:
Driving on rough roads, window mid-way down (see fig. 1)
ACTION:
Use the Service Procedure to verify if the noise is coming from the window run rubber. If yes, replace the incident door window run rubber with the one listed in the Parts Information section of this bulletin.
IMPORTANT: The purpose of ACTION (above) is to give you a quick idea of the work you will be performing. You MUST closely follow the entire Service Procedure (starting on page 3) as it contains information that is essential to successfully completing this repair.
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And that's it on that page. |
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| ALPAT |
| Doombringer, Iwill have my wife fax it to you, if not I will fax it to you from work but it will be late as I am working 4-12 shifts |
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| lnichols |
If someone wants to send this to my efax account at 240-220-5830, I can print it out here at work, run it through the HP digital sender, and get a PDF. I then can post a copy on my web server for everyone.
I have this issue too and they didn't get it right last time. I would love to take them in the TSB and get it fixed next week. |
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| jaak |
Hey you have an HP digital sender? They are just sooo cool... I love mine! (Sorry about the off topic, couldn't help it.)
I'd like to see the TSB as well, as I forgot to mention it on my last service, so mine's still creaking. I guess I've tuned it out! |
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| lnichols |
quote:
Originally posted by jaak
Hey you have an HP digital sender? They are just sooo cool... I love mine! (Sorry about the off topic, couldn't help it.)
I'd like to see the TSB as well, as I forgot to mention it on my last service, so mine's still creaking. I guess I've tuned it out!
Wish it was mine Jaak. They are pretty cool though. Very nice for converting hard copy only docs to soft copy. |
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| Kris |
Yes, they are great! I am using Canon at work. Yo can scan 100 pages in minutes and have them pdf at the same time! And of course emailed!
At home I am using Canon scaner. It has an option of making pdf files. Pretty cool! Nice for emailing! |
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| Doombringer |
Ladies and gentlemen, we are in trouble :/
This TSB makes specific mention of "this TSB only applies to noise coming from the window when it is halfway down" and "for noise coming from the window when it is fully up, refer to ASIST or Electronic Service Manual"
Page 3 has a "test" for the dealership techs to do, which involves rolling your window down halfway (though the diagram looks like it is 1/3rd the way down) and pushing inward and pulling outward on the glass. I've tried this, and there is no pronounced "TICK" noise like the document describes... nor is a "TICK" noise like what I hear when my windows rattle (fully up).
I'll have to try their procedure when it is really cold out (when I hear the most rattling) but I can't say this looks good. :(
So, I think we're not out of the woods yet. I foresee a lot of "this TSB doesn't apply" coming from our dealerships, unless by chance the TSB -does- apply to you.
Update: Links removed because of availability of TSB in a PDF. |
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| Kris |
| I was driving to work this morning and the temp was 47 or so only. The rattle - if we can call it that way - was very pronounced. It drives me nuts........unfortunately I do not have time to go the the dealer, but definitely Nissan has to do something about it........Let's hope this TSB is just first step.......... |
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| Doombringer |
Yeah, these 40-degree mornings up here in Jersey are killer for the rattle. A stray breeze can bump my MO and the windows will tick like no tomorrow. :/
Well, I feel comfortable in that I can reproduce the sound for them (dealer) when I take it in, given how readily it happens... every stinkin' morning... :(
lnichols, I also faxed it to that # you gave me. |
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| ALPAT |
| Just recieved word that the parts were in and I am taking the Rano in Monday to have them put in. Will keep everyone updated as to the results. Color me skeptical as well, but it is a start |
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| esemes |
this TSB only covers the noise with the window mid-way down.....
for incident of noise with the window fully up refer to ASIST or see the ESM....
this still sounds encouraging, as they recognize the POSSIBILITY of the same tick happening under a slightly different condition.....
we'll see...........
here's hopin!!
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| ALPAT |
| mine was doing it whether the window was all the way up, halfway down or all the way down. Will let everyone know my results after Monday |
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| ALPAT |
| Sorry folks, Had the window rubber replaced as per the TSB but the noise is still there. Service manager said to keep complaining until they figure out what is wrong. |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by ALPAT
Sorry folks, Had the window rubber replaced as per the TSB but the noise is still there. Service manager said to keep complaining until they figure out what is wrong.
AL-
please clarify this...........
did the replacement kit parts cure the ˝way down window tap at least (per the TSB)???
im wondering if its a step toward the cure for the all-up rattle......... (i think the parts are quite expensive too........)
i dont wanna have em digging my doors apart, if it doesnt even cure what its stated to cure......
dang!!!
well, we will prevail!!
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| Doombringer |
esemes, does your window tap when it is halfway or a quarter way down?
For that matter, does ALPAT's?
Mine taps like a bastard when it is up, but when rolled down it does not make a sound.
I made a recording of my window tap, too. Unfortunately it was with a PDA so the quality isn't that great, but you can make out the noise without a problem. I'll post it when I get the chance. |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by Doombringer
esemes, does your window tap when it is halfway or a quarter way down?
For that matter, does ALPAT's?
Mine taps like a bastard when it is up, but when rolled down it does not make a sound.
I made a recording of my window tap, too. Unfortunately it was with a PDA so the quality isn't that great, but you can make out the noise without a problem. I'll post it when I get the chance.
good question drdoom.........
i'll try to replicate the sound (dont do much window-down driving)
the sound, to simplify, is like someone takes their car key and taps (once only per occurance) on the window......
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| ALPAT |
| My noise occurs when the window is up ,down or half way down. Replacing the window seal as per the TSB Did not fix any of it.My mechanic is a good friend who has been working on Nissans for 27 years and he is still scratching his head. |
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| lmuscella |
| Just got mine out of the shop yesterday and they are replacing the rubber strips as per the bulletin even though mine rattles when the window is all the way up. The dealership did not know what else to do so they decided to start there. It will take 2 weeks to get the strips in so I'll see what happens after that. Will post if I receive any new news. |
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| Muracca |
Doombringer,
I have the EXACT same problems. I'm bringing mine it tomorrow, and I'm going to see if I can trade it in for something else. I've lost all confidence in my Murano. This will be the third time in the shop for the rattle problem, and I'm sure it will be the third time that the service guys looks at me like I'm crazy. His suggestion last time was, "Well, just turn up the radio". If this car was $6,000 and had a JEEP emblem on the back, maybe this would be acceptable....but not for what I paid! |
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| dmako |
"His suggestion last time was, "Well, just turn up the radio". "
Wow! that's what my service man said to me about my B pillar popping noise.
A factory training response? |
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| Doombringer |
Thankfully I haven't gotten the "turn up the radio" reply. If I ever do, I will go absolutely BALLISTIC.
You're quite correct. When all was said and done, I paid $42k for my particular Murano. That's quite a chunk of change for a single guy. It is SUPPOSED to be a high-end vehicle, and should be relatively free of rattles. Especially widespread rattles like this window BS. |
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| Kris |
Muracca
which dealer did you go to?
I will be doing the same when I found time and hope to be successful. |
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| millerct |
| I purchased my Murano at the end of July. It wasn't until the end of September that I noticed the window problems. My windows rattle, creak and tick whether they are up or down. I took the car in on 10/1, which is the day the TSB was issued. All they did was put silicone on the window guides. This did nothing. I brought the car in a 2nd time and let them know that I found the TSB on the web. I don't even know why they made me bring it in a 2nd time, be/c they couldn't do anything w/out the parts required per the TSB. I brought it in for the 3rd time this week. It took them 2 days to replace all of the rubber. I drove into work today and the rattling no longer occurrs, but the front DS window still creaks and I can now manually push the window down about an inch. I FREAKED out on the dealership this morning. They need to now open up the door and try to fix the window regulator. I too am losing a lot of faith in the craftmanship of this car!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| ALPAT |
| millerct, I think it is your dealer you should lose faith in. I got the parts for mine in 2 days and it only took 2 hours to replace them and that was with me talking to him at the same time. Replacing the seal did not fix my problem. I fire letters to Nissan every other day until they get a fix for this. Enough complaints should get results. after all this is a brand new design. My 96 Pathfinder had numerous recalls at first but they did fix it |
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| eager |
Almost hate to post this but I took my MO in to the dealer with strong window rattle on the passenger side and a weaker one on the drivers side. Drivers side clicked when half down as per TSB passenger side did not.
Fixed ! I looked for every pothole and crack I could find on the way home and not a peep, tap, squeak or any noise from either window. By the way the temperature here is only -6deg C or 20F today.
The service adviser said there were a couple of trim clips off on the door panel on the passenger side plus he said thay have had some trouble with window glass rubber drying out a bit in transport and shrinking but I don't think they replaced them.
Have faith it is fixable.
:D :D :D :D :D :p :p :7: |
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| pokerboy |
| First, I continue to appreciate this site and those senior/junior members who have shared good info - Thanks. Did anybody else get the window problem fixed (and in a similar fashion to the one person in Canada who did get it fixed). Was it all the same exact problem? It seems the exchange on this problem just stopped in late October. Why no recall on the alternators. |
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| Gonzo |
| Recall on the Alternators? "What chu' you talkn' about Willis?" |
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| Doombringer |
Recall on alternators? This is the rattle thread! :P
One problem at a time...
Anyway. I take mine in tomorrow. I'll suggest they take the door panels off and check trim clips and foam/pad stuff. We'll see :/ |
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| Muracca |
Well, my car is still at the dealer.....8 days now with no end in sight.
The rattles, taps, squeaks, thuds and creaks still have not been fond & fixed. Not to mention all the other problems my LEMON has. I'm beyond frustration! |
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| rebo |
| My 2004 with 1000miles on it has the infamous popping on the left pillar, and a rattling noise somewhere on the passenger side. I would of thought Nissan took care of this issue by the time the 04's came out, wishful thinking I guess. I will have the dealer take a look at this during my 3750 maintenance check. I feel confident (wishful thinking again) that Nissan will resolve these issue's. All said and done, I really love this car. Put in the SAT this weekend (Sirius), well worth it IMO. |
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| dmako |
Please let us know about the pillar popping. So far I only made it to the dealer once so only got by the 'we didn't hear any noise' and then the 'you'll have to reschedule' after I drove with them and pointed out the popping.
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Originally posted by rebo
My 2004 with 1000miles on it has the infamous popping on the left pillar, and a rattling noise somewhere on the passenger side. I would of thought Nissan took care of this issue by the time the 04's came out, wishful thinking I guess. I will have the dealer take a look at this during my 3750 maintenance check. I feel confident (wishful thinking again) that Nissan will resolve these issue's. All said and done, I really love this car. Put in the SAT this weekend (Sirius), well worth it IMO.
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| Doombringer |
Didn't make it in with my MO, I had an early morning appointment on a saturday and just couldn't get in, some stuff came up.
I'm not even confident they'd do anything for me. I'll probably be better off taking it to a stereo installer, like esemes did, and asking them to pop off the door panels and wrap everything inside with foam. :/ |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by Doombringer
Didn't make it in with my MO, I had an early morning appointment on a saturday and just couldn't get in, some stuff came up.
I'm not even confident they'd do anything for me. I'll probably be better off taking it to a stereo installer, like esemes did, and asking them to pop off the door panels and wrap everything inside with foam. :/
dont do it DOOM
back to ticks here
BUT i have found that the true problem is NOT in the panels after all. ask anyone whos' had it 'remedied' a month or so later, if its still fixed
its not
the 'tap occurs (easily for some days) at the top back portion of the doorframe where it meets the glass (about 4-6" from the rear - most corner of the glass/frame union....
try this..... press (firmly, with four fingers) about 1" down from the top of the glass, at about 4-6" from the back of the frame, and you'll get the tap/'pop to happen......
the glass is striking the track............ by pumping up the door panel, it slightly re-aligns the glass, albeit only temporary, or , until the glass is moved up and down a few times......
so..........
now what??? lube (vinylex) the seals on the upper and rear edges of the doorframe??? (i say try it!!)
or, is the glass simply a minor percent incorrect for the frame (and subsequently fonna happen on all 2003/4 modles eventually)???
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| eager |
| Cursed window rattle is back much quieter than before but there never the less. |
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| Doombringer |
So it's back? Oh well, saves me the trouble of popping off the door panels when trying to fix...
I always figured it had to do with the seal around the window or something related, not something down inside the door (considering it happens when the window is UP and not much glass is in the actual door).
So the rattle reigns... |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by Doombringer
So it's back? Oh well, saves me the trouble of popping off the door panels when trying to fix...
I always figured it had to do with the seal around the window or something related, not something down inside the door (considering it happens when the window is UP and not much glass is in the actual door).
So the rattle reigns...
kinda like the return phase of the motor 'slips' and lets the top of the glass "fall" down a bit, and then when you jar it, it taps the slide..........
hmmmmm..............
sms
well, AT LEAST we know what wont fix it......... |
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| eager |
They sell this round air filled foam weather stirpping material that comes in various diameters I am wondering if embeding a peice of this in the top of the window track might solve the problem. I will pick some up today. Maybe something with a bit more spring between the door frame and the window glass would stop the movement.
Has anyone else tried something like this? |
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| Doombringer |
I was thinking of doing this myself, but with a much less high-tech approach. Basically, taking some foam or even folded paper and wedging it into the top window track to basically hold the window TIGHT in there. A wedge. It'd be enough foam/material that I could pull it out easily enough.
So, hmm. Interesting. Maybe I will try this... |
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| jetnbye |
I too have the famous window pop, tick, whatever you want to call it on my 04.
However, today on my drive to work, the tick was not there. It's pissing rain here. Could the moisture be the cure?
Anybody tried spraying WD40 in the window track in the area of window frame mentioned in an earlier post? |
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| pat |
| WD40 will degrade materials within the window track. I would suggest you determine compatibility first. |
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| rebo |
| I noticed the same here in CT. 52 degree's and raining when I left for work. Noticed that the popping and ticking was at a minimum. I guess when it's dry and cold it should be at it worst. |
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| pat |
| Expansion and contraction of materials based on temperature. |
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