| ekaxel |
RE: wa4qfy 4/13
Those pictures look different than the original plastic shield. More rounded. Is that a revised one? Maybe the newer part #? |
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| wa4qfy |
quote: Originally posted by ekaxel
RE: wa4qfy 4/13
Those pictures look different than the original plastic shield. More rounded. Is that a revised one? Maybe the newer part #?
This is the way the MO came, so this must be a part that the factory installs.
My guess is the TSB parts must be a totally different design.
I will try to crawl up under the vehicle tomorrow and see if I can find any part numbers. |
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| SgtRich |
quote: Originally posted by ekaxel
RE: wa4qfy 4/13
Those pictures look different than the original plastic shield. More rounded. Is that a revised one? Maybe the newer part #?
Keep in mind that wa4qfy has a 2006 Mo and that's the way it was delivered. |
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| Enforcer |
| wa4qfy, just to be clear, does your VIN fit in the range of the Bulletin; 2006 MY: JN8AZ08T*6W400007 - 405716 & JN8AZ08W*6W500021 - 514232 ? |
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| wa4qfy |
quote: Originally posted by Enforcer
wa4qfy, just to be clear, does your VIN fit in the range of the Bulletin; 2006 MY: JN8AZ08T*6W400007 - 405716 & JN8AZ08W*6W500021 - 514232 ?
No my VIN does not fit in the range, I made the mistake originally of not checking the VIN range.
Mine is JN8AZ08W16W5240**, so above the 514232...

{corrected verbiage for clarity} |
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| Eric L. |
quote: Originally posted by wa4qfy
No, I made the mistake orginally of not checking the VIN range.
Mine is JN8AZ08W16W5240**, so above the 514232...
Seems like whatever you have then, was installed at the factory. |
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| Enforcer |
Ya so is mine and I got the aluminum. Its not an SL/SE or FWD/AWD thing because we both have SEs. My build is later but it has an earlier part number. I hate making assumptions but here is what I'm thinking.
It seems probable A7285-CC27B is the conformal plastic/rubber wrap/around one.
I think they have 2 that they install at the factory, 25A and 27B.
I think they know better than to install the 27A on new cars to be sold off the lot.
I think they had supply problems to meet the recall quantity and had three different options to meet the numbers and then they prioritized them for max $. Perhaps the 27B was easier/faster to produce then the 25A.
If they have more of the 25A and 27B than needed for the factory, then they end up in supply for dealers to get them for recall work.
If thats the case, I have to believe the supply will catch up. I don't think they will keep 3 parts in the supply forever. And I don't think the plan is for new MOs to come with the 27A. They probably would if they had no other choice but I think they know it would have a negative impact on sales.
So pure conjecture and It may take a year or so, but I think there will come a time when this settles out to either the 25A or the 27B. Regardless, we still need to state our objections or not as the case may be.
Oops, dang, just dropped that crystal ball! :toothless |
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| biggun |
Enforcer,
I think you're right on the money. Of course, I couldn't wait that long because of my anal-retentive ways and ended up with the "snow plow" version.
Once again....DAMN YOU NISSAN! |
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| Gary Moniz |
Got my notification the other day. It says that besides the possibility of puncture to the tank, there is also a vapor hose fitting that may come off. Both, they say, are potential fire hazards. They say they will REPLACE my tank and install a shield.
Also, they will install a protectors on the webbing of the rear seat belts as they could be damaged by the rear seat back hinge and fail under frontal impact......... |
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| gsemmel |
I have an '05 Murano SL (~9000 miles) and received the triple recall notice (tank, fuel shield, seat belt protectors). It was serviced this morning. I just picked it up. It appears that I received both the protruding plastic shield (27A) and the conforming one (27B). For the few "lucky" '05 Muranos that need to have the entire tank replaced I'm guessing that the recall notice didn't account for the fact that the new tanks apparently come with the conforming plastic shield already.
Earlier this week I called Nissan and was transferred to their help desk in India. My conversation didn't go well with them (or if it did I certainly didn't understand them). I was inquiring about getting the aluminum shield over the plastic one. I also sent Nissan North America a very long email entitiled "A Disgruntled Loyal Customer. " I'll post it later if I get a chance. Of course, all of that was in addition to talking several times with the local Nissan service department. Anyway, looks like I have double plastic protection.
Several weeks ago I had to have the throttle position sensor replaced when the car felt like it was stuck in low gear (realizing there are an infinite number of gears on the CVT). Anyway, Nissan should be ashamed. I'll never buy another Nissan again. They use cheap materials and parts (not to mention farming out their help line to India) and don't even get it right on the recalls. Honda and Toyota, here I come. |
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| njjoe |
"Another one (customer) bites the dust. And another one gone, and another one gone. Another one bites the dust." Nissan should consider adopting this Queen song as their new theme song.
SHIFT_Customer Support :moon:
-njjoe |
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| gsemmel |
A brief follow-up to underline the differences in service between Honda and Nissan. When I said, "Honda and Toyota here I come", that was within the context of SUVs. A few months ago I bought one of the new 2006 Honda Civics, my first Honda. That car had a recall on the accelerator. In my case, they just needed to inspect it. However, when I brought it in for that recall I also asked them to look at the radio since there was static on many FM stations and I received no AM stations at all.
When I picked up the Civic the tech told me that the radio reception in the area isn't good and all cars have this problem. I tried explaining to him that I lived in this city for 30 years and never had reception problems. Anyway, I knew Honda always follows up with a quality survey. I just recieved that survey a couple days ago and I told customer service that the radio is really bad and they should have inspected it further. Long story short: the Honda service manager just called me and told me to bring the Civic in and they will give me a rental for a day. He said they will fix the problem with the radio. I didn't ask for the rental and it didn't even cross my mind to inquire about that. That's service!
Nissan Service never offered me a rental for either of the days of work I missed for the throttle position sensor nor today's triple recall - all of which are much more significant than a non-safety related radio problem with my Civic. Finally, I have owned multiple Nissan Sentra's and 240SX's throughout my life prior to the Murano. Each of my 240SX's had over 180,000 miles when I sold them. I never had any major problems with those vehicles. To be bombarded with multiple problems on the 2005 Murano within the first year of ownership is unbelievable - and I was even spared the alternator recall! |
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| KSmurano |
Found a new use for the dreaded fuel shield.
My boys where playing basketball in the street & my 10 YO's ball took a bounce & started rolling across the cul-de-sac.
Just at that the same time my neighbor started backing out with the copycat Murano & the fuel shield instantly wedged the ball.
I thought for sure the plastic was going to break & I was going to end up having to "BUY" one of these awful contraptions but luckily she hit the brakes.
So it does work good as a b-ball shield! :D |
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| hfelknor |
"When I picked up the Civic the tech told me that the radio reception in the area isn't good and all cars have this problem. I tried explaining to him that I lived in this city for 30 years and never had reception problems. Anyway, I knew Honda always follows up with a quality survey. I just recieved that survey a couple days ago and I told customer service that the radio is really bad and they should have inspected it further. Long story short: the Honda service manager just called me and told me to bring the Civic in and they will give me a rental for a day. He said they will fix the problem with the radio. I didn't ask for the rental and it didn't even cross my mind to inquire about that. That's service!"
No, that's "recovery".
"Service" is when they don't bull**** you to begin with.
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| Kris |
Hfelknor
Yes, you are right. It is recovery. But in Nissan case it would look slightly different.
Nissan manager:
“I am following up on your recent survey regarding poor radio reception. We called our authorized dealer and we were informed the factory certified technician had inspected the radio and there is nothing wrong. We trust him. The case is closed.”
Now, I understand things do break, sometime problems are difficult to diagnose. But it is the automaker attitude that makes the difference. If things break and I am treated right, I will come back. If somebody is trying foul of me – thanks, but there are other option! |
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| zebelkhan |
| Nissan also does recovery. Sometime ago my SM was late returning my calls to make an appointment for oil change. It happened that I got a survey call a day later. I mentioned the "no call back" and in five minutes after the call ended my SM called and asked me to bring my MO in "any time I liked" for a free oil change.....:D |
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| Eric L. |
quote: Originally posted by zebelkhan
Nissan also does recovery. Sometime ago my SM was late returning my calls to make an appointment for oil change. It happened that I got a survey call a day later. I mentioned the "no call back" and in five minutes after the call ended my SM called and asked me to bring my MO in "any time I liked" for a free oil change.....:D
With shady service like that, I often wonder if they do something else to the car to force you to return at a later date for further repairs! :rolleyes: |
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| zzachariah |
| My dealer called me yesterday about the recall of my 2006MO, though I've not got official notification from Nissan. From what I read from this wonderful forum, this recall dates back to 2003 (??). Makes me wonder why Nissan have not found a permanent solution to this problem in their later models. |
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| njjoe |
quote: Originally posted by zzachariah
My dealer called me yesterday about the recall of my 2006MO, though I've not got official notification from Nissan. From what I read from this wonderful forum, this recall dates back to 2003 (??). Makes me wonder why Nissan have not found a permanent solution to this problem in their later models.
zzachariah-
The fuel tank shield recall got underway earlier this year (2006). It just seems a lot longer.
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| Pickles |
Did anyone actually get a recall in the mail on the fuel shield cover??
I thought we were supposed to get one in March. I haven't seen it yet!! |
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| Tworules |
I got the recall a week or so ago, and had it done today. They gave me the plastic shields :( , but I didn't argue as they are only visible if you look for them. I figure most people don't look under the car.
The recall was also for the rear seatbelts, and had that done as well today. With an oil change, the entire service only took an hour and a half.
All in all, a happy camper. |
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| Pickles |
HI,
Whats wrong with the rear seatbelts?? I haven't heard about them..If I did, I forgot already :eek: |
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| Tworules |
| There isn't anything wrong with the belts for the most part. The recall is for the possibility of damage to the belts from rubbing against part of the hardware near the bottom seat cushion. They put a small protector on the belts to prevent damage. |
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| risaralda |
| Can someone put pictures from rear seat belts after they have done with the recall to see what it looks, I went to the dealer to have then work on then, but I don't see any shield on the east belts, thanks |
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| Gonzo |
I can get a picture but it basically if you look in the rear seats where the belt latches into you will now see some plastic around the belt that is attached to the car near the seat.
This is just in case the belts become compromised during a car accident. |
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| njjoe |
Has anyone with the new plastic fuel tank shield taken their MO into Mexico and tried to return? :1:
I am curious to see if the DEA agents at the border make you take the fuel shield off to see if you are smuggling in a few kilos!! There is no way they are going to believe that boxy shield belongs on a curvaceous MO. :headshake
Bend over and spread 'em!! :eek:
-njjoe :2: |
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| Kris |
LOL! :D :D :D :D
I will be close to the border shortly. I may just do it for fun!;) |
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| Tyler_Canada |
| I just took my Murano in for service this morning, and they mentioned the 2 recalls (fuel shield and seat belt). I asked what part numbers were available for the fuel shield and was told only CC27A (ugly plastic one). I declined the recall service. |
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| Supa Lao |
| I'm getting all 3 recalls done on tuesday. I'll probably get the plastic shields too :rolleyes: |
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| TAS075 |
Had my 05 Murano in for the fuel tank shield. It looks like they drilled new holes in the unibody frame and used plastic push pins to hold the shield on. I'm going to pull some of the pins out and see if they did any kind of rust proofing where the holes were drilled. If not, this could be a corrosion issue down the road. Has anybody else checked out the installation?
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| njjoe |
quote: Originally posted by TAS075
Had my 05 Murano in for the fuel tank shield. It looks like they drilled new holes in the unibody frame and used plastic push pins to hold the shield on. I'm going to pull some of the pins out and see if they did any kind of rust proofing where the holes were drilled. If not, this could be a corrosion issue down the road. Has anybody else checked out the installation?
TAS
TAS075-
I think you'll find that they did NOT drill any additional holes. From what I read in the recall instructions (http://www.nissanhelp.com/Ownership.../NTB06-023-.htm) the shields have been designed to use existing holes in the chassis.
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| Supa Lao |
| I got all 3 recalls done today. I got the ugly plastic shield installed :( |
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| Halo |
I got mine done today and the seatbelt fix. I received the notice exactly 2 days after I was in for my 4th alternator (OK, just a bearing this time, not the entire unit). I mentioned that maybe they could have just done the recalls last time I was in. Their response: "yeah, we probably should have done that, sorry."
I do seem to get a decent amount of work done in their waiting room, though, because they have unsecured wireless and there are no interruptions.
The service guy agreed that the tank shield looks like ass. They didn't know about an aluminum one. Then again, had they know about it, they probably wouldn't have told me anyway. |
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| super3 |
Tyler_Canada
I had the ugly POS plastic shields installed on My '05 SE and I was so ticked I called Nissan Ca to complain. I said I had seen the aluminum shields on various '06 Muranos at the dealership and they would be acceptable but the black plastic crap certainly was not. They filed a report and called me back after about 10 days to tell me that the plastic shieds are all that's available in Canada and I could order the aluminum from the US if I wanted to pay for them...yeah right!!!
I said escalate this complaint up the chain as I am one very dissatisfied customer and since this is my sixth Nissan since 2000 I want some action or it's the last Nissan. Great, in about an hour some supervisor lady called back with the story.
When Nissan announced this recall to Transport Canada they specified the plastic shield because of possible corrosion problems with the Canadian climate and of course road salt in the winter. That means that we are stuck with the plastic trash. I said that ok that's fine but how come the 2006 Muranos for sale in Canada come with the aluminum shields?? She replied that they were not part of the recall so Nissan could basically fit whatever type of shield thay wanted on the new vehicles. I have noticed that some 06's seem to have a curved rubberised shield by the way.
I finally have just given up with whining to Nissan, they are a bunch of morons who can't see that this junk shouldn't be installed on a $50k Cdn vehicle.
I spoke to the owner at the dealership and told him the whole story and that I'm still a pissed off customer and he says he can order any part for an 06 so he's ordering the aluminum shields for me and installing them gratis and I certainly can't ask for any better than that. |
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| njjoe |
quote: Originally posted by super3
I spoke to the owner at the dealership and told him the whole story and that I'm still a pissed off customer and he says he can order any part for an 06 so he's ordering the aluminum shields for me and installing them gratis and I certainly can't ask for any better than that.
Super3-
Your dealer deserves an "AttaBoy". :29:
That is an excellent example of good customer support.
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| Jim C |
I'm going to go out on a limb here and disagree with super3's approach. Yes, I agree the plastic shields are ugly, but that's a cosmetic issue. Seems to me that Nissan went above and beyond even to do this recall. Really. Who doesn't expect to be driving along any road in North America and kick up crap? Rocks, nails, debris all exist. Fuel tanks are under cars. Unless we all plan on driving armored vehicles protected inside and out, seems to me that there is going to be the occasional mishap involving kicked up debris hitting underbody components.
That Nissan is offering additional assurances and countermeasures for free when no other manufacturer seems to have to do so seems a cut above for customer service. I think its great that super3 got what he wanted, but in the end, it was simply a cosmetic preference. What if I hated the design of the hood? Does this mean Nissan should change the vehicle in the next redesign to suit my tastes? Or if I demanded that Nissan offer repaint my car, because I didn't like the color?
Yes, manufacturers have a responsibility to design and build safe vehicles. But that doesn't mean we as consumers can use this to leverage every single aspect of vehicle design and construction. Customers have the responsibilty as well not to make unreasonable demands or come in with an overly developed sense of entitlement. Frankly, it doesn't surprise me that corporations are getting tougher and tougher on warranty claims when customers complain that everything on their vehicles is not absolutely perfect.
By the way, this in no way should be construed as a specific attack on super3. I think its great he got what he wanted and that the dealer was willing to do this. However, we shouldn't necessarily condone the general practice of getting free stuff from businesses just because we don't like one aspect of an otherwise fine vehicle. Super3's dealer isn't going to be in business long if he keeps giving away parts. Let the retaliatory flaming begin . . . |
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| njjoe |
Jim C.-
Complaining about the appearance of the fuel shield and complaining about the design of the hood are two different things. It's the old apples versus oranges deal. You knew what the hood looked like when you were buying the car, so therefor you accepted the design when you bought the vehicle. The fuel shield, on the other hand, was not part of the original purchase. The dealer is installing a component on your vehicle that affects it's appearance and you have virtually zero input.
The fuel tank should have been better protected in the original design. On my previous cars, most of the fuel tanks were aft of the rear axle, so the rear axle and suspension components protected the leading surface of the tank. That's not so with the MO.
I give Nissan credit for stepping up to plate on this recall, but I wish they had put in a little more effort and designed a less obtrusive shield.
I hope this doesn't fall under the heading of "retaliatory flaming". I prefer to look at it as a friendly debate. There is no room for "retaliatory flaming" on this forum.
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| hfelknor |
It ain't over yet.
This is from the NHTSA site.
Homer
Make : NISSAN Model : MURANO Year : 2003
Manufacturer : NISSAN NORTH AMERICA, INC.
Crash : No Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0
ODI ID Number : 10154791 Number of Deaths: 0
Date of Failure: January 3, 2006
VIN : JN8AZ08W13W...
Component: FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE:STORAGE:TANK ASSEMBLY
Summary:
APPARENTLY A SMALL PIECE OF METAL IN THE FREEWAY WAS PICKED UP BY THE FRONT TIRES AND PUNCTURED THE FUEL TANK ON THE NISSAN MURANO. UNKNOWN BY THE DRIVER, ALL OF THE FUEL LEAKED OUT OF THE VEHICLE WHILE BEING DRIVEN. ALTHOUGH THE RECALL NOTICE HAS BEEN EXTENDED, NISSAN REFUSES TO COVER THE REPLACEMENT OF THE TANK. NISSAN'S STAND IS THAT THE "SHIELD" THAT IS THE "FIX" TO THE PUNCTURE PROBLEM WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED THE TANK IN OUR CAR FROM BEING PUNCTURED BECAUSE IT PROTECTS THE FRONT HALF OF THE TANK AND OUR PUNCTURE WAS ON THE BACK HALF OF THE TANK. NHTSA SHOULD TAKE NOTE AS IT APPEARS THAT THE SHIELD IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AS THE ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM IF ITEMS PICKED UP BY THE FRONT TIRES CAN STILL ALLOW A PUNCTURE TO REAR OF THE TANK. *JB |
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| Tyler_Canada |
quote: Originally posted by super3
Tyler_Canada
When Nissan announced this recall to Transport Canada they specified the plastic shield because of possible corrosion problems with the Canadian climate and of course road salt in the winter.
This is where I call :bsflag: (BS) on Nissan. Aluminum does not have a corrosion issue.
Nice work though :) |
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| mgthe3 |
Was on the on ramp revin her up and just as I changed lanes, out from under the car in front of me comes a chunk of aluminum ladder.
I had absolutely no time to react.
Nearly ripped off the shield.
It makes a great aluminum ladder shield, no marks on the gas tank!
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| Enforcer |
| :) Glad your ok. So you going to have another installed? |
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| mgthe3 |
It sustained a dent but I got it back into position. I noticed that they actually drilled a 1/2 inch hole in the under body to place a push in large kind of plastic thing to attach it with. It ejected that onto the road as it was trying to get ripped off. I will have to get one of those, what ever it is. Also, I noticed that they just placed the end piece on top od a bolt that holds on my rocker bar on both sides--I had asked about that in an earlier post with no reply. I guess they were too chicken to unscrew the nut. DuuuhHH!
If that were in place either one of two things would have occured:
A. it would have ripped the shield in two.
B. The shield would still be there with an ugly mar.
things that make you go hmmmm....
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| Eric L. |
Had the fuel tank shield installed today - as expected, got the ugly plastic one. An eyesore for certain, but I'd rather have it there than not (hey, its better than a hole in your gas tank). Dealership was very very fast doing the work this time - both the fuel tank shield and the seatbelt protectors - done in a little over an hour.
mgthe3 - glad to hear the protector did its job! |
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| Jim C |
quote: done in a little over an hour
Wow! That was fast. When I brought mine in, the dealer wanted the car the whole day. Even gave me a rental car gratis because of the time. He said that in order to properly install the shield, that they needed to drop the entire tank. The seatbelts were a quick fix, but the tank definitely took a while. Because of that, they were only taking in one Murano per day on the appointment list.
Wonder why the difference? |
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| alanpgh |
My dealer said it is a fairly quick install on my '06 Murano SL AWD. They want my car for about an hour and a half. Taking it in next Tuesday for the recall and an oil change.
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| njjoe |
Jim C-
Drop the tank? The dealer must have incorrectly assumed they were also doing the fuel tank recall, because you do NOT need to drop the tank to do the fuel shield recall.
-njjoe |
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| Eric L. |
quote: Originally posted by njjoe
Jim C-
Drop the tank? The dealer must have incorrectly assumed they were also doing the fuel tank recall, because you do NOT need to drop the tank to do the fuel shield recall.
-njjoe
Maybe he also had the other fuel tank recall as well. |
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| Jim C |
Nope - just the fuel shield with the ugly plastic. No replacement fuel tank as confirmed with the service rep. Now I'm really curious as to why it took so long?
Hmmm. Car runs good so I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Still, be nice to know - oh, and on a separate service visit, I finally got that annoying tick fixed!! |
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| Eric L. |
quote: Originally posted by Jim C
Nope - just the fuel shield with the ugly plastic. No replacement fuel tank as confirmed with the service rep. Now I'm really curious as to why it took so long?
Hmmm. Car runs good so I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Still, be nice to know - oh, and on a separate service visit, I finally got that annoying tick fixed!!
Oooh well just keep your fingers crossed! Most of the time when the dealer fixes a problem, they break something else. If I had a perfect repair (regardless of how long it took) I would give the dealer survey all tens! :D |
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| Corin |
| I still haven't received a recall notice for ANYTHING. My VIN falls under the fuel tank, shield, and seatbelt recalls. Keep waiting for the letter, never comes... :) |
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| Eric L. |
quote: Originally posted by Corin
I still haven't received a recall notice for ANYTHING. My VIN falls under the fuel tank, shield, and seatbelt recalls. Keep waiting for the letter, never comes... :)
I don't think I would have received the recall notice save for a Nissan rep calling me and asking if I would like to schedule a 30,000 mile service appt. I said no, but please send me the recall info. Dejected the rep said ok and hung up. Two weeks later, recall notice in mail. |
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| alanpgh |
Just had the recall done on my '06 MO SL AWD today. It took a little over an hour, and I also got my first oil change.
Yes, I can see the black plastic shield, but it doesn't bother me.
Charged my Warranty about $77.00; no charge to me.
Good Luck!
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| samwlee |
| Had my fuel shield and seatbelts recall done yesterday while getting an oil change, and some other items.. quick and well, it is what it is.. for safety... |
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| njjoe |
quote: Originally posted by Corin
I still haven't received a recall notice for ANYTHING. My VIN falls under the fuel tank, shield, and seatbelt recalls. Keep waiting for the letter, never comes... :)
Corin-
The same story applies to me with regards to notification. No letters. No calls. Nothing.
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| Gonzo |
| I finally got a recall notice the other day... I had the work done about 1 month ago and I never got the ALT recall. |
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| JeffC |
I hadn't received a notice, but I called Nissan to ask about the recall and whether they could order something other than the 27A "street sweeper". The service writer told me to come in any time, but that they could only install what Nissan shipped to them. He was surly as usual.
The parts guy told me that the the aluminum 25A is no longer in the system. He also told me that the 27B looks the same as the 27A and is the only thing Nissan is currently shipping. He agreed that it is ugly.
I'm going to wait as long as possible to get this done. Maybe Nissan will revise the shield again if NHTSA tells them that the plow doesn't provide enough coverage.
Nissan just keeps piling on reasons to go elsewhere with for my next vehicle. I'll gladly give up "sporty" for something that has decent engineering and a focus on customer service.
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| Gonzo |
quote: Originally posted by JeffC
I'm going to wait as long as possible to get this done. Maybe Nissan will revise the shield again if NHTSA tells them that the plow doesn't provide enough coverage.
JeffC
Are you kidding... that schield not only covers the fuel tank but everything else under there. :2: |
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| Jim C |
| In addition to what Gonzo said, NHTSA is highly unlikely to revisit the issue. The Agency considers the issue resolved. The only thing that would open this up again for modification to the remedy would be if the number of complaints about punctured fuel tanks increases substantially in vehicles WITH the shield or some other safety related defect appeared involving the shield. Such instances are rare, at best. Folks have to learn to deal with the shield's visual downsides or simply dont' have it installed. But don't turn around and blame Nissan if you fail to have the shield installed and your fuel tank gets punctured. |
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| Clem |
| I wish I didn't need the recall, its sticks out under the mo and its just like plastic |
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| JeffC |
| I should have put a smilie after the NHTSA sentence.;) |
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| Jim C |
Jeff - understood. Re-reading my post, I realized the last sentence was much harsher than it was meant to be. Frankly, I debated long about not having the thing installed at all. What did it for me was that I had to have the rear seat belt done (my 4 year old sits there in a booster!), and I wanted to kill that annoying tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick noise I was getting (can you tell how frustrating that was to me? :p ). In any event, hard to say no to the plastic plow.
On the up side, I regularly hop a standard height curb to park my Murano and empty boat trailer after launching my fishing rig to a local launch. Seems that despite the low hanging appearance, the shield does not sit lower than the other components on the Murano - at least I haven't scraped anything under on the curb! |
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| Zanter |
So I had my recall on the shield performed...I asked for the non-plastic one and they said it wasn't available...so I said not to do the recall and I'll wait...they instead installed the shield anyways and told me I didn't have the option to wait or even refuse the service. I found this funny since it was like pulling teeth to get them to replace the alternator. It's almost like they will only do the opposite of what I want? Huh? I still don't understand Nissan Service, is this just me?
Though they did give me a free rental for the weekend to tool around in...nothing special but it was the thought that counted.
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| Enforcer |
quote: Originally posted by Zanter
I didn't have the option to wait or even refuse the service.
Yes you do and yes you can. |
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| Mo is Me |
Has anyone noticed a drop in mpg since installing the shield? I brought my car in for the 30k service and the various recalls. I was under the impression when I picked up my car that the shield was not installed and was on order with a few other items. I drove my car for 4 days and only got 16.4 mpg (freeway and street combined). I usually get between 17.6 and 18. So I filled up my tank again with a different brand (87 octane again) and got the same mileage. Then yesterday I'm walking out to my car and I notice that the shield was installed after all. I would think that after a 30k service I would get better mileage not worse! So I don't know if it because of the shield or the summer blend of gas required in California.
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| njjoe |
Mo is Me-
I doubt very much the fuel shield was responsible for your 8% drop in fuel efficiency. The fuel shield does not add a significantly larger surface area compared to the area it covers, plus it is already in an airstream that is quite turbulent.
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| Eric L. |
| No notice of fuel economy change after the fuel shield install. I would think perhaps the drop in mileage is because the dealership disconnected your battery during the service, and this caused the computer to reset. It might be a tank or two before the computer finds optimum settings again, and you'll get the old fuel mileage back. |
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| Mo is Me |
| Thanks for your input. Hopefully it is just the computer reset. I'll reserve judgement until after another tank or two. |
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| Darrell Sheldon |
| Hey I just had my fuel tank shield installed and I think I can make some money leasing space on it as a mobile billboard. It is very visual and with all the popularity of the Murano as of late,It is a very visual product. Perhaps Zamboni may enjoy some product tie-ins! |
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| Enforcer |
quote: Originally posted by Darrell Sheldon
Hey I just had my fuel tank shield installed and I think I can make some money leasing space on it as a mobile billboard.
:2: Street Sweepers-R-Us |
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| Darrell Sheldon |
| John Deere Tractors and Plows? |
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| njjoe |
A few days ago I stopped by my dealer for service. While I was waiting I checked out a few 2006 MOs in the lot. All of them had the metal fuel tank shield. It was not bad looking as compared to the plastic behemoth. I was wondering, what happens if someone's 2006 MO hits road debris, backs over a curb, or somehow damages or destroys the aluminum shield? Do they replace it with the OEM metal shield that no dealer claims to have? Or do they replace it with the plastic shield?
I would be awfully annoyed if I had a 2006 and they replaced the metal fuel tank shield with the plastic one. :eek: :confused: :3:
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| gfab333 |
Just had the fuel tank shield installed while having my oil changed. It was painless and free. It is indeed an unsightly protrubance under the car.
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| Corin |
| I still haven't received any recall notice. Very interesting. |
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| njjoe |
Nothing here either. I am glad it is not a real safety recall!
-njjoe |
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| hfelknor |
I got mine months ago.
But I declined.
Fugly.
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| HuskyFan |
quote: Originally posted by Corin
I still haven't received any recall notice. Very interesting.
I got the recall notice several weeks ago for the gas tank shield and the rear seat belt protectors. I know I got my car several months before you so maybe the recall notices are being sent out based on VIN number or date of purchase. |
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| ekaxel |
| Finally got the recall notice and had it done this AM. In & out in 45 minutes! |
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| njjoe |
quote: Originally posted by ekaxel
Finally got the recall notice and had it done this AM. In & out in 45 minutes!
ekaxel -
You obviously take pride in your MO, so what is your opinion of the fuel tank shield now that it is on your car?
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| ekaxel |
| I try not to think about it! |
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| Eric L. |
quote: Originally posted by ekaxel
I try not to think about it!
Went to the office early this morning, only car in the lot. I had to resist looking back at the MO as I walked away, because I *knew* I would see the sticky out plastic shield on the profile. :D |
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| njjoe |
The more I hear from you guys the more convinced I am to NOT get the plastic fuel shield. However, you guys can be the first the say "I told you so" when I post next year complaining about a hole in my gas tank!! :D
-njjoe |
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| ekaxel |
| Get it and don't think about it! |
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| ekaxel |
OK! I have looked at it and thought about it, and I am going to modify it.
Cut 2" (maybe a little more) off the bottom of the existing plastic.
Use one of the wife's old scratched aluminum cookie sheets.
Bend appropriately to fit close to the tank.
Pop rivet it to the remaining plastic shield.
Fasten at the back and/or sides (not worked out yet).
Spray undercoat the aluminum.
Probably put a thin sheet of poly something between the aluminum and the tank.
Same on the other side. |
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| Corin |
| I FINALLY got my recall notice in the mail today. Oh gee. I'm so happy. |
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| Gonzo |
| ekaxel, post some pictures. |
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| ekaxel |
| For sure. As soon as I get to it. It is fairly low priority. |
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| bob1 |
quote: Originally posted by Corin
I FINALLY got my recall notice in the mail today. Oh gee. I'm so happy.
Yup, just got mine so I guess they are going out in bunches now.
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| njjoe |
quote: Originally posted by Corin
I FINALLY got my recall notice in the mail today. Oh gee. I'm so happy.
Same here.
Someone in Nissan-USA must have finally gotten around to their OUT basket. :2:
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| risaralda |
just got mine too, yesterday!
Risa |
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| ekaxel |
I cut it off and bent the cookie sheet. It is a little small to cover the whole tank bottm. Doing it with new material would yield a piece that will cover the whole thing.
With the plastic cut, I can't see it at all! |
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| Corin |
quote: Originally posted by ekaxel
I cut it off and bent the cookie sheet. It is a little small to cover the whole tank bottm. Doing it with new material would yield a piece that will cover the whole thing.
With the plastic cut, I can't see it at all!
Pics, please! :) |
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| ekaxel |
There are 4 pictures in my gallery. Total time - about an hour. It should be 6" wider, but what I had was what I had.
1. The cut ugly thing
2. Installed cookie sheet
3. View from the side
4. View from the unmodified side |
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| Eric L. |
quote: Originally posted by ekaxel
There are 4 pictures in my gallery. Total time - about an hour. It should be 6" wider, but what I had was what I had.
1. The cut ugly thing
2. Installed cookie sheet
3. View from the side
4. View from the unmodified side
Definitely an improvement with the side profile, ek. Thanks for posting pics. |
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| Daytona |
Hey all!! Newbe here to be kind!!! A couple of questions? We just got this 06 SL! got all ops except, Nav, trac control, AWD, just the Bose. How much should i have paid for it now the 07's are about out????? Gas tank guard!!! They don't look that bad! :rolleyes: :8: |
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| Corin |
Nice Mo. Yeah, the 06 shields are very nice. Not noticable, functional, and seems like someone took more than 5 minutes to design it.
What WE'RE complaining about is the shield that the rest of us get. Stupid huge plastic snowplow. |
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| njjoe |
Daytona-
As an AWD owner, it looks odd seeing the underside of a FWD MO. There are way too many "missing" components. ;)
I realize this is not the correct thread for asking this... but what makes you say the '07s are out?
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| Gonzo |
quote: Originally posted by njjoe
Daytona-
As an AWD owner, it looks odd seeing the underside of a FWD MO. There are way too many "missing" components. ;)
-njjoe
Hey why not remount the fueld tank where all that extra room in the FWD model and then you will not even need a fuel shield. :4: |
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| Daytona |
quote: Originally posted by njjoe
Daytona-
As an AWD owner, it looks odd seeing the underside of a FWD MO. There are way too many "missing" components. ;)
I realize this is not the correct thread for asking this... but what makes you say the '07s are out?
-njjoe
Yep i bet there are some missing stuff! Not a needed opt here in FL IMO! This was one of 5 SL with Glacier paint and Latte leather in this area. :confused: If i wanted it my way, it would have taken a month and would have been under the 07 year tag. Diff, instruments cluster, Nav display, front grill. Per sales person. Was this HOOey? And is price asking taboo here? I couldn't find any word on what is paid for these! I used to work at a Yacht dealer, If you had a person ask the price they didn't need to be there!!!!:confused: :rolleyes: |
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