| ddibrano |
| So i have read lot on how to integrate the ipod to all the earlier models of the murano, and also what the requirements are to have it integrated. My question is how can i integrate without having the 6 cd changer (bose stereo). What items can i use besides the Hardon Kardon drive and play...i have two fm transmitters and they dont sound good at all. I want straight cd quality sound! Anyone have any tips or advice for a 2006 S owner..... |
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| alanpgh |
There is a ton of recent information about iPod integration in this forum. Search the word iPod over a date range of 6 months or so, and you will see lots of useful information.
You may also want to search by user ID.
I suggest you search for all my posts; my ID is alanpgh
I have only been a member for a few months, and most of my posts have been about the iPod or Handsfree cell phone car kits.
You may also want to search for posts by:
jerseyparts
rixmo
You'll likely find some useful posts in the threads surrounding these posts.
Feel free to send me a Private Message or Email.
Let us know what you find out as things are changing all the time.
Good Luck!
Alan |
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| rixmo |
| Assuming you've read all the posts that Allen pointed you to, then you know that the factory IPOD cable isn't a perfect fit for '06. But you can play MP3's from your deck. I'll tell you that the sound from the IPOD factory cable is the best I've heard. While you can't change songs or randomize it on your 06 model, you do get song display, stealth install, and IPOD charging. Another option is MP3s. My mustang plays MP3s so I burned each of my playlists to a high quality MP3 cd and play them in the 6 cd changer. I still get song control, title display, and random functions for the price of a CD (free with mail in rebates!). You don't get 60gig on the CDs but you can get most of your favorites in there! |
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| gquiring |
Question for rixmo
When you mentioned you cannot randomize the iPod is that from the Murano display that you cannot? Can you at least preset the iPod to random songs from the iPod and will it stick or does it get reset everytime you turn off the car? |
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| rixmo |
| You can set random to all, list, album etc. using the radio functions (I have the Xterra Kit with an 05 Mo). If you turn off the radio, but leave the car on, it remembers. If you turn the car off, the IPOD forgets the random function, even if you set it on the IPOD before plugging it in. I've been told this is an IPOD issue, not a Nissan issue and that it may be fixed in a future release of their software. If you have an 06, JerseyParts from YourNissanParts.com has a Titan kit that'll work with your radio. |
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| alanpgh |
I have a simple question:
What functionality do I give up compared with being able to reach my iPod-mini scroll wheel to make playlist/song/podcast selections?
I just bought an Air Click and strapped it to my steering wheel. This is an RF remote with modest, but useful, functionality. Between the Air Click (made by Griffin Technology), and having the iPod within easy reach, the system works fine using the PAC AAI-NIS2 iPod interface. Pacific Audio may have newer units now; Check them out at www.pac-audio.com.
And there are now so many other solutions. I do like the idea of having the full funtionality of the iPod scroll wheel nearby. Some say they also get this functionality with the Harmon Kardon Drive + Play; I'm not sure, but they have the Harmon Kardon at local Best Buy stores in case you want to see the unit.
I have attached a photo of my iPod install done about 3 mo. ago plus a few new pics of the recent addition of the Air Click RF Remote.
Also, here's an interesting post on the Harmon Kardon unit: (I don't have any personal experience with the HK unit.)
http://www.nissanmurano.org/forums/...&highlight=niss
There are so many solutions now, but I am pleased with the performance and flexibility of the install in my '06 MO SL AWD from a few months ago.
Good Luck!
Alan |
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| gquiring |
So if I get the Titan version for my 06 with Bose I can control my iPod from the radio, it will be powered by the car, installed in the glove box and the audio output is a direct connect (NO RF).
Will I see the options on the LCD screen for selecting songs etc...?
Did you install yourself or have the dealer do it? I would prefer to get a dealer or someone to install it. |
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| rixmo |
Alan, I had the same IPOD setup you now have and I sold it all to go with the Xterra harness. With the Griffen, you have to remember to turn the IPOD on/off if you have it plugged into a lighter. Also, you can only power up/down, change volume and skip songs with the airclick. With the Xterra (05) or Titan (06) you get everything but memory of random settings.
GQuiring, 1. yes (but check with Jersey Parts as I don't have the titan version)
2. yes, you see it all even with navigation
3. installed it myself. It litterally plugs into a harness behind the seat. I'd install it for you, but NJ is a little far to drive! In order to get the IPOD up to the glove box, I had to run wires along the door jams but they just pop off and on again. You can just leave the IPOD in your under trunk (but on top of the spare) tray. You really don't even look at it anymore. The only issue would be removing the IPOD if you store lots of junk in your trunk. |
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| alanpgh |
The factory interface for the Titan that works in the Murano sounds like it has great potential. I just want to make sure I understand the functionality provided. I hope someone on this forum can clarify the iPod scroll wheel functions that are still available and the ones that are not. Just some sort of brief description in a few sentences would be helpful.
Thanks,
Alan |
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| alanpgh |
rixmo:
Your post clears up all my questions. Sounds like the factory unit is a very good way to go today.
Any addtional comments from jerseyparts or anyone else will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Alan |
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| gquiring |
| Now you really have me interested. I thought I had to remove the radio to install it. It just plugs into the sat radio connector which is somewhere behind the rear seats? I could do that and I guess it makes sense to leave the iPod back there, I don't add songs that often to it. |
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| ddibrano |
So will the Titan 06 unit work with an 06 S with no sat functions or does my OEM radio have the sat hook up (not sure where it is located in my MO) and i can have the function of the Titan model.
help appreciated.
Also i understood that the PAC-NAIS unit had full function with steering wheel controls and also charged the unit as well...am i wrong with this assumption? |
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| alanpgh |
The PAC AAI-NIS2 unit still requires a way to charge the iPod, unless you plan to charge it each evening in your home dock. At the time I did my install in early 3/06, I also had to buy a small Blitzsafe unit. I think I bought this from Logjam Electronics.
Good Luck!
Alan |
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| alanpgh |
I finally understand that I am doing something different in the way I use my iPod. I take it into my house and sync it each evening with iTunes because I listen to a number of daily podcasts. So, any solution for me needs to make it easy to remove the iPod from the car (until they make a Wi-Fi iPod). My current solution is easy.
With the factory unit, I see that many of you are putting it in the trunk. How do you update it with songs (or in my case, daily podcasts)?
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks,
Alan
P.S. to previous post: You may need to get a mounting clip if you want to mount the iPod next to the radio. I bought one from www.proclipusa.com. |
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| gquiring |
| I ordered it. What seat is it behind the driver or passenger side? Do you open the hidden wells to get at the connector? |
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| rixmo |
gquiring, Fold the rear seats flat, then lift up on the carpeted and rubber dividers where the seat meets the cargo area. You'll see the harness there. It's the white one that isn't plugged into anything on my '05.
Alan, I ran my harness wires all the way up to the glove box so I simply open it up and unplug it. It's also nice there as it is a completely hidden installation with no tell tale wires hanging around the dash. You need to find out from Brian (JerseyParts) how long each wire harness is to make sure the Titan harness is long enough to do this. I ran mine under the rear seat to the door trim on the passenger side and up to the glove box from there. All this trim is removed with a simple tug staight up/out and pops back in when you're done.
ddibrano, the Pac provides line in sound to the Nissan radio if it has a plug for SAT on the rear of the radio. I believe even the non-BOSE radio has this feature. If your radio has a SAT button on the front, then you have the plug in the back. The Pac has to be installed on the back of the radio and then you need to plug an RCA/mini jack cord to get sound out of the IPOD. I started with this, but then got frustrated with changing songs without having wires all over my beautiful interior. I added the Griffen Airclick (like Alanpgh) but then thought "Why do I have all these buttons on my steering wheel that aren't useable anymore?" When this moduule came out, it gave me everything I wanted. Control on stock steering wheel buttons, display of music titles on stock screen, plus complete navigation of IPOD functions with stock radio buttons and no dash tear apart needed. Keep in mind, us '05 and older Mo's can't even play an MP3 disc in our radios! |
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| alanpgh |
Rixmo:
Your explanation is terrific. You've really helped all of us!
Thanks,
Alan |
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| ddibrano |
Thank you for your very clear description Rixmo. I am looking for a clutter free and very user friendly hook up for my ipod.
So are we saying then that the new module will work in the 06' MO's without sat...cause if i have to pay double for the module and get twice the function from it (rather than the PAC unit). I am willing to buy but have to know i am not purchasing something that will not work on my car....i have a wireless FM transmitter with the RCA cables hooked up to it and it is annoying to have to charge it overnight to use it all day.
Looking to get away from that if possible. |
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| rixmo |
| You've got to have a "SAT" button on your radio. If you do, just confirm that you have the sat wire harness behind your rear seat. Then you're good to work with JerseyParts! |
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| ddibrano |
| what options are there then if there is no "SAT" button....am i destined to get the PAC with a Charger......or the NEO ipod module... |
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| gquiring |
Are you sure you need a SAT button? I don't have a SAT button and my 06 Murano is pre-wired for SAT. I thought you had to press the radio button a couple of times to get that input?
Here is a picture of my radio front. |
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| ddibrano |
quote:
Originally posted by gquiring
Are you sure you need a SAT button? I don't have a SAT button and my 06 Murano is pre-wired for SAT. I thought you had to press the radio button a couple of times to get that input?
Here is a picture of my radio front.
my 06 MO has the same layout but its not the bose, its the standard factory stereo. |
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| rixmo |
Sorry, the '05s have a SAT button. Look under your rear seat for the wiring harness running to the metal shelf just behind the rear seats. I've got the bose amp on the passenger side and the extra sat harness with molex plug was taped up in the middle headed towards the driver's side where the sat receiver would normally go.
Check out this thread where SunCaptn tried it in an S and an SL on I believe an '06.
http://www.nissanmurano.org/forums/...15&pagenumber=3
Keep in mind, he was trying the Xterra module in an 06 and we now know that you need the Titan version for 06 and newer Mo's. |
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| alanpgh |
If I use the new iPod interface for the Titan in my Murano, I can assume the funtionality as outlined by all the recent posts. But, if I want to have the iPod in my glovebox (or somewhere within easy reach inside the front cabin), will the cable be long enough? If not, is there an extension cable or can I make one?
Thanks,
Alan |
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| gquiring |
| I emailed Brian at NissanParts to confirm that the 06 does not need a SAT button to work. You press the RADIO button to select the SAT input. |
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| SliderJeff |
quote:
Originally posted by rixmo
Check out this thread where SunCaptn tried it in an S and an SL on I believe an '06.
http://www.nissanmurano.org/forums/...15&pagenumber=3
Keep in mind, he was trying the Xterra module in an 06 and we now know that you need the Titan version for 06 and newer Mo's. [/B]
rixmo,
I went through that thread the other day... was the final verdict the reason that he couldn't get it to work EXACTLY right because of using the Xterra version and not the Titan version?
Man, once we know all the particulars, we really should add this as another topic in the FAQ. Just a thought...
Regs,
Jeff |
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| rixmo |
This thread confirms that JersyParts (Brian at YourNissanParts.com) verified that the Titan module works with 06 muranos.
http://www.nissanmurano.org/forums/...83158#post83158
Don't forget to use your discount code to save $$ when you order from him. They have the best price even before the discount!
Alanpgh, I don't know how long the Titan cables are. The Xterra cables were long enough. What I did was to run the molex cable from the rear seat up to the passenger seat. I place the little grey box there and then ran the black IPOD cable up to the glove box. Brian can tell you how long the Titan kit is compared to the Xterra kit as he sells both. |
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| gquiring |
I received my stuff from NissanParts today and it's installed and working.
The cable will not reach the glove box. I ran mine under the drivers side back seat, under the rear mat and it lays under the drivers front seat towards the back. You cannot see it. They even include a nice black pouch with a pull string to protect the iPod. To pull my iPod for updates just requires opening the drivers side rear door and unplugging it - no hassles.
This was my first experience buying from NissanParts. Brian was very helpful and fast to respond to emails. I wish I knew about the discount code but no biggie it was still a bargain.
I took some photos of my install and can post them if anyone needs them.
Now for operating the iPod from the radio I must admit it is confusing. They include a nice manual but somehow I could not exactly get it to do what I wanted. I need to spend more time with it. What I did find was the random worked without me touching it. I even shut off the car and restarted it and the random seemed to stick. I could be wrong as I was turning the tuning knob and it was randomly selecting different songs from different albums every time I turned it. |
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| alanpgh |
Your post is very good news.
I want to have the iPod in the front seat or glovebox. Brian: Can you or anyone else make any suggestions, such as an extension cable?
Also, gquiring, can you verify that you have access to all the major scrollwheel controls from the radio? For example, selection of menu items, such as playlists, songs, music, etc.
Thanks,
Alan |
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| gquiring |
Alan,
The iPod is under the front seat, you just need to get at from the rear door. Yes I can see the setup menu, album etc... from the Murano display, I am confused on how you select the menu. It tells you to press the seek button but that's where it did not react as I expected. There may be nothing wrong, I think I need to learn the user interface better.
BTW it sounds great!!! |
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| 06murano |
can someone tell me exactly how long is each (xterra/titan) cables? and what was the difference between the two?
thanks! |
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| gquiring |
I sat down and learned the interface. I now get it. You press the Cat/Folder button multiple times to scroll through the menu options on the iPod. When you find what you want you press the Seek button. No feed back is provided when the Seek button is pressed. That's what confused me the first time I tried it. The manual clearly documents that it won't provide any feed back. I think Nissan could change the interface to make that more friendly.
The bad news. I was wrong about the random sticking. It was alphabetically going through my iPod via songs so it appeared random the first time I tried it.
The really bad news. To get random every time you start your Murano you need to press the Cat button several times to get the Setup menu, then press Seek to pick Setup, then press the Cat/Folder button several times to find the random option and then press Seek to select it. Ohhh that's a lot of work!!!!
Enclosed is a picture of my iPod location: |
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| 06murano |
ok, i'd called my nissan dealer and they said that for the titan cable i need: an ipod interface and a harness, together for $205. i was just wondering can someone verify that this is the correct info? what are the nissan part numbers for the titan ipod interface?
thanks! |
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| gquiring |
Part numbers:
999U7-VS000 Harness Type B
999U7-VR002 iPod adapter |
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| manitoba murano |
What's the discount code for jerseyparts?
Thanks |
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| rixmo |
| I did a search on the forums and found my earlier post. The code is CLBTTN |
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| gquiring |
| I cannot figure out how to post more than one photo per post. Here is a photo of the install location: |
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| x911stp |
| This is my first post, but I have been reading this forum since I got mine 3 months ago. I believe I have read in other posts that if you use this for iPod integration you can't have SAT also, is this comfirmed for sure? I have Sirius installed on my 06 S and I would like to also integrate my iPod and obviously this is the most appealing option, but a little verification on whether it is possible for me to do or not would be a great help, Thanks! |
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| gquiring |
| I do not have SAT but from what I understand you can have iPod and SAT. The 'box' comes with two connectors, one for iPod and the other for SAT. Brian at YourNissanParts mentioned you just need an additional cable for both. I would email them to confirm. |
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| borismo |
Well I purchased the IPOD module from nissanparts.com. I must say that I before I was reluctant on ordering it but after reading all the postings on this topic I felt confortable and confidant that I will be able to install it on my own. I even called Nissan dealer but with installation this would have cost me about $400.00 total. So I gave it a shot.
I have an 06 Murano SL Pearl White with NAV and following the installation procedures from these previous threads made things much easier. The cable is exactly where everyone here mentioned it was. That was the most worrying aspect of all if any was not having that cable. Once connected I plugged in my IPOD and bam! I was in there baby.
Thanks everyone!
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| Enforcer |
| Excellent...but wheres the pics? :) |
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| jatharp |
| Does the grounding part of the wire harness get used when installing on an 06 Murano? |
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| rixmo |
| I did ground mine on the '05 kit, but I don't think it's necessary. Just redundant in case the new harness gets severed. Just find a bolt with a good metal contact and attach it there. Don't use a bolt for your seat blets though!:eek: |
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| Millo |
Hi,
just for your information, I had the iPod interface installed by the dealer during the maintenance (and recall) visit. Although I love working on auto, I had no time to do it myself! :(
they installed:
999U7-VR002 IPOD GATEWAY KI - 175 USD
999U7-VS000 HARNESS TYPE B - 30 USD
Labor 157.50 USD
Total 362.50 USD (plus Washington State Taxes...)
Overall I am VERY UNSATISFIED... Yes, I can see the song names on the display. The quality of sound is very good.
HOWEVER, controlling the iPod with the radio keys is just a joke.
I have 40 Gb music... and to select songs (or album, or artist...) in alphabetical order just does not work. To scroll down to the middle of the least to play - say - Madonna.... would take me 20 minutes with the key pressed. Annoying. Not to mention driving safety.
The keys on the steering wheel do not work (as expected).
There is no otherway of selecting songs (why didn't they use the tuning dial, or the other keys?).
Moreover, this setup does not remember last selection so, let's say after Madonna I want to listen to Metallica... I have to start from A.... I thinking of returning the whole stuff to the dealer: it is just driving me crazy... especially after paying 362.50 USD!
Am I missing anything? Any different setup, other than creating Playlists at home??
Thank you all!
Ciao,
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| Corin |
Try holding down the "next track" and "previous track" buttons on the steering wheel to change songs. See if that works.
Where are you located? Which dealership did the work? Did they route the cables nicely? |
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| alanpgh |
I feel bad for Millo. I hope someone who is experienced with the factory iPod interface, like Rixmo or Jersey Parts, can shed some light on this track/song selection problem. Perhaps there is an answer based on the experience of others. This is not about routing cables neatly; its about intuitive control of the iPod approaching the convenience of having direct access to the iPod scroll wheel.
The more I hear all of this, the more I'm glad I bought early, before there was a factory interface. I had to use the Pacific Audio and Blitzsafe interface units, purchased from Logjam Electronics, along with a Proclipusa mounting bracket. I have terrific audio quality since it directly inputs to the Bose Radio, and I can reach the iPod scroll wheel very easily.
I hope some of you can give Millo additional suggestions.
Good Luck!
Alan |
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| rixmo |
| Sounds like you got the Xterra Harness instead of the Titan '06 harness. Check with your dealer as what you are experiencing is typical of what happened when folks installed the Xterra module in an '06 Murano. |
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| borismo |
I installed my interface on my own and have no problem with it. Yes I think the interface could've been designed to work a little better. But overall it does what it was intended for.
In my case the tuning button does work for selecting the songs. And selecting the GENRE folder work as well.
In my experience I found that its best to create a PLAYLIST with those favorite songs since its easier to select. The only downfall I found that regardless it play in alphabetical order and not the order you wish it to play. |
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| alanpgh |
Thanks for your comments!
Hope this helps Millo and others.
Alan |
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| alanpgh |
I just noticed the updated version of Apple's web site has some new information about how to "iPod Your Car." See link below:
http://www.apple.com/ipod/carintegration.html
The aftermarket product links are especially interesting.
Any comments?
Alan |
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| manitoba murano |
Don't know if it's still there, but the 'car integration' page on apple.ca (canada), where it re-directs to the individual manufacturers sites, re-directed me to nissan.com this morning.
At least they got it right on the US site. |
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| chria_craft |
| N/P. I don't usually dig past page 2 in a Google Search. Glad i did. Looks like you can have iPod & Sat radio if you look at the iPod install guide. Emailed the company. Will post again when i hear back. |
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| chria_craft |
Q. "I have an 06 Mourano and i am looking for the XM receiver. I was reading the ipod install guide and noticed it had an optional sat radio connection. Is it possible to have ipod & sat radio?"
A. "Yes, since they both use the same wiring, the IPOD would have to have it's docking plug, unplugged from the Ipod, and then it would revert back to Sat Radio (XM in this case)"
From Brian at www.nissansattuner.com |
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| jerseyparts |
Just in case you guys haven't put the connections together, www.nissansattuner.com is also ours, we built it just for the crush of sales on the ipod adapters, having it's own site, makes it that much easier to upgrade.
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| nightcap |
I've been reading these threads for days, and it all boils down to this:
For an 06 Murano with Bose and XM Satellite, I need the Titan iPod interface, which Your Nissan Parts.com has as item number "ipodwithsatellite."
Now here are the crunchy questions: in order to switch between receiving XM broadcasts and the iPod, what must I do? I've seen a couple references to "you must disconnect the iPod", which is wholly unsatisfactory, especially when it's to be stuck under the chair. Can anyone clarify?
I also saw something in passing where the writer noted that it stopped working when Apple's latest iPod updater software was applied. Trouble is, I don't remember where I saw it. Anyone have any complaints?
I am much obliged.
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| rixmo |
I ran my wiring harnesses up to the arm rest so undocking the IPOD is not hard to do, but I believe it is necessary to get XM to register.
I also remember reading about the latest IPOD update fouling up the integration with Nissans. I have not had any problems with mine, but I'm not sure which release of IPOD software I'm running on the device. |
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| alanpgh |
Nightcap:
You've brought up some good questions. This group has lots of experience. People like Rixmo, Jerseyparts, and others will be able to answer your questions.
The following is a post from another new thread from yesterday. This was in answer to a question from someone who was looking for a better solution than an FM transmitter as an iPod interface.
The post below may be helpful to provide you with further information. What I do like about my installation is that I have direct access to the iPod scroll wheel and all of the intuitive iPod functions. This is a clean install with minimum wires showing and easy access to the iPod so I can take it inside for syncing every day or so. (I listen to a lot of podcasts, so routine syncing is important to me.)
Hope this information is helpful along with a photo on my iPod install below:
Post from another thread follows:
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You are correct. iPods generally don't sound very clear with FM transmitters.
There are many current threads on this subject. Just do a search on iPod and look at posts over the past few months, and I think you'll find a good solution.
There are OEM direct connect solutions as well as a number of after market solutions.
I personally use a Pacific Audio unit (www.pac-audio.com) and a Proclip mount (www.proclipusa.com) for the Murano. This way I have full access to the iPod scroll wheel and clear high quality audio with volume controllable from the steering wheel controls. You may also need a Blitzsafe or similar unit to charge the iPod. In my case, I bought the equipment from Logjam Electronics. This was about 5-6 months ago.
Also, for current information, you might want to check out this link on the Apple web site:
http://www.apple.com/ipod/carintegration.html
Feel free to send me an email.
Good Luck!
Alan
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| nightcap |
Thanks, Alan and Rixmo.
Her Majesty's Sloop "Black Pearl" (known to the uninitiate as "that platinum 2006 Murano") is a fine vessel, but the lack of an iPod adapter or even an aux socket in her binnacle is unfortunate. Since it appears that any fix is perforce a jury-rig, I think I'll stick with the el cheapo answer right now: a $15 tape adapter and a leftover power cord from my last command, a Honda Element.
Has anyone heard a reason *why* the Titan truck has an iPod connector, but not the Murano crossover?
-- Bill |
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| alanpgh |
The install I outlined above does not look jury-rigged. It looks clean and works well. The switching between the radio, XM, and the iPod are all done from the steering wheel as is the volume control. The tape adapter would likely look jury-rigged. My install cost was about $100. or a little over $100.
I don't have the OEM install, but I saw it in Rixmo's MO as we live in the same area. It is a very clean, integrated install. I can't comment on the controls, but I did see the iPod songs displayed on the radio, so it does look integrated. Check with Rixmo for further information. I think this costs around $200., but you'll need to check with jersey parts and others about the costs and details of this install.
Just some feedback. Good luck with your current install and anything you plan in the future.
By the way, you could contact Nissan at (800) NISSAN-1 to ask when an official factory module for the '06 Murano will be available.
Good Luck!
Any feedback or suggestions from others is appreciated.
Alan |
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| nightcap |
I'm sorry, I expressed myself poorly. By "jury-rigged", I meant improvised, not sloppy or slipshod. Your setup looks great, but it's overkill for me.
-- Bill |
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| alanpgh |
nightcap:
No problem. I did not take offense at anything you said.
That's what this forum is for. To share experiences and let each of us match this to our tastes and preferences.
For me, spending an extra $100. or even $200. after I've spent over $30,000 for a MO is fine for me. If it provides me convenience, that works for me.
By the way, does anyone know if the Tape Cassette input provides full stereo fidelity? I think it does.
For me, it's worth $100. or a bit more for the convenience of a clean, single cable, install with a swiveling iPod holder that is easy to reach and with nothing hanging out of my cassette deck.
Everyone should choose what works best for them.
Any comments or suggestions are appreciated!
Thanks,
Alan |
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| bmw911driver |
I agree. For me the only way to use the iPOD is through the headunit.
I have quite a few playlists. That is all I need.
My ipod sits on the floor below the 2nd row seats behind the driver.
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