| Linky |
As much as I enjoy the quiet ride of my 2006 Murano, I really wanted a throatier, meaner sounding exhaust.
After reading the forums, I tried just removing the center muffler (which is just a resonator). That yielded a slightly louder exhaust that bordered on a rice burner sound. Definitely not a throaty mean sound.
Buying a $1000 Murano performance exhaust was out of the question. So I described the sound I wanted to my muffler guy and he suggested replacing the Murano muffler with a Flowmaster muffler for the V6 Camaro. My roommate happens to have a V6 Camaro, so I compared the two mufflers. Sure enough - the inlets and outlets are in the same place and the Camaro muffler is slightly smaller.
I had the Flowmaster Camaro muffler installed. Keep in mind, the center muffler was already removed. At idle, the Flowmaster exhaust had a nice deep rumble. But on acceleration, the noise was unbearable. So I went back to my muffler guy.
He put a 24" resonator where the original center muffler was located. The result... SUCCESS! The perfect exhaust sound!
Now the Murano idles silently from inside the car, and it has a barely audible low rumble outside the car. On acceleration, it lets out a sweet throaty growl. I love the sound of this car!
Total cost - about $350 installed.
Original look was preserved. The benefit of the smaller muffler is that - unlike the original muffler - it can't be seen from behind the car. |
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| bigjohn |
| I have been looking for different ideas for this problem. I feel the same way about the MO exhaust. My brother inlaw did something on the lines of that for his pathfinder. I am just wondering what exactly it sounds likebefore I start tossing money into something that isn"t what I'm looking for. I know this is a stretch, but, any way we could get an audio clip? |
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| njjoe |
Linky-
Nice job. :29:
I like how you methodically approached the problem and found an acceptable and relatively inexpensive solution.
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| nissanlove |
| yes please sound clips if possible!!! if it sounds as good as you mention i'm getting the setup done on my MO |
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| hfelknor |
So.....
Take out Mid muffler
Put in Camaro V6 muffler in place of main muffler
Put in Mid muffler
One has to wonder what you would have if you just left mid muffler alone and replaced the main muffler...................
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| Linky |
quote:
Originally posted by hfelknor
So.....
Take out Mid muffler
Put in Camaro V6 muffler in place of main muffler
Put in Mid muffler
One has to wonder what you would have if you just left mid muffler alone and replaced the main muffler...................
Homer
That's a very good point.
I would recommend just replacing the rear muffler first. I'm sure the Murano center muffler would have worked fine, but in my case it had already been removed.
Bottom line - the exhaust tone comes from the Flowmaster rear muffler, and the loudness is controlled by the center muffler. Anyone who is considering this mod should start with the Flowmaster, then replace the center muffler to get the loudness they want.
I'll try to get a sound clip posted. Be patient - my schedule is hectic right now. |
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| UncaDanno |
Linky, how about a part number for the Flowmaster?
By the by, lots of sound clips of exhaust systems here .
Some are quite "entertaining", such as the Scion xB in the MagnaFlow section.
The Flowmaster Hush Power makes my heart hurt (in a GOOD way)! |
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| Linky |
| I just uploaded pics of the mod - check my gallery. The Flowmaster muffler is a Camaro 80 Series, part #42583. |
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| njjoe |
Linky-
Nice job. Thanx for the pics.
-njjoe |
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| UncaDanno |
| Thanks for the pics and the PN, Linky. |
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| Halo |
quote:
Some are quite "entertaining", such as the Scion xB in the MagnaFlow section.
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| nissanlove |
| ohh sweetness!!! soo many stock parts still used that's great. as soon as a sound clip is available i'm goin for it. Awesome 06 Mo by the way. |
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| njjoe |
quote:
Originally posted by UncaDanno
Linky, how about a part number for the Flowmaster?
By the by, lots of sound clips of exhaust systems here .
Some are quite "entertaining", such as the Scion xB in the MagnaFlow section.
The "67-73 Camaro V8, 2.5" Dual (Part #15896)" is recorded in stereo. It sounds great! You can close your eyes and imagine the Camaro traveling from right to left. :29:
The Scion? It sounds like a outboard motor. :2:
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| Halo |
quote:
Originally posted by njjoe
The "67-73 Camaro V8, 2.5" Dual (Part #15896)" is recorded in stereo. It sounds great! You can close your eyes and imagine the Camaro traveling from right to left. :29:
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| jimbo |
that is a very nice setup i think im going to get that done very soon and post pictures of it. i have a flow master in my fullsetup toyota and the sound is just amazing!!!
great job linky!!!
by any chance did you notice any performance increase or anything like that?
i was reading an article sometime back and it was saying how flowmaster muffler gives some extra horsepower? true?
well job well done again!
cant wait to hear the clip of it...
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| DLo |
| Where is the sound clip, can't wait to hear it!!!! |
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| Beemerboy |
| I've been thinking about a FM for my 04 but based on the way the car shifts or lack of shifting.. I'm wondering what the sounds is going to be like during acceleration....since its revs to the highest RPM and holds there until you back off...I don't know would sound kind of odd to me |
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| Whispaz |
| any updates? soundclips? |
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| Whispaz |
| any sound clips yet. i'm planning on doing it if it sounds good |
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| nissanlove |
| bump for sound clips please |
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| Linky |
Sorry it has taken so long. I got the sound recorded onto a digital deck, but I haven't had time to get it uploaded.
Until I get it uploaded, you can hear a very similar clip on the page that UncaDanno supplied - <a href="http://www.fle-online.com/Sounds.asp">Sound Clips</a>. It's the top left one - FlowMaster V6 Camaro. The only difference is I think mine idles with a deeper sound.
I hope to get my clip uploaded in the next few weeks. I haven't forgotten about it. Work just keeps cutting into my day. |
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| Whispaz |
| its sounds good but it doesnt sounds much different than what it sounds like now. is the difference noticable in person? |
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| 3.5 Lover |
I have a Stainless Steel Billet muffler installed on mine with 3 1/2" stainless steel tips. I wanted to keep the stock look but I should have went with 4" tips so it would look like the FX and Z from the rear. The sound is much deeper and when I accellerate you can hear the exhaust but its not loud at all. I kept my resonator and may switch to a smaller one for more sound but I dont want it too loud because the droning sound would be intolerable with the monotone exhaust note due to the CVT. I need to get me a digital camcorder so I can post some clips. My billet muffler is the one used on the V-6 Camaro and it's shorter than the factory muffler.
Good news for those who didnt know, I had three Maximas, two automatic and one Manual 05, 06 and the intake on the Max fits the Murano as if it were made for it. The bad news is you loose take off power by a lot. I don't know why but its a lot slower with the intake on it and it burns more gas, about two miles per gallon more. I went from 22MPG mixed city and short highway distances down to 19MPG with the intake on. Gas is not that expensive now so I may put it back on.
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| 3.5 Lover |
| I couldnt get anything to come up on the link but a site (Remus) in German. I tried to change it to english but nothing. |
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| njjoe |
Worked fine for me.
-njjoe |
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| Alex |
Sorry, but it looks the link is not always working
Try from the home page, change language,press ENTER, go to products menu, select products catalogue,......:2:
http://www.remus.at |
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| 3.5 Lover |
| Now that worked fine; Remus makes a good muffler faccording to people I know that have BMW's who have their muffler systems. Not too many people have modded the exhaust of the Murano to get a good feel of how different exhaust systems will sound on our ride. I don't want mine loud, just a nice deep tone that wont drone into the cabin at cruising speed. |
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| sxmdaniel |
Wow Linky love that set up , it's exactly what i had had in mind .
Is there anyway you could be more detailed on the set up i live in the Caribbean and our resources down here are slim to none and i would need to order all my parts from the US therefore mistakes are a no no .
Could you please tell me if the resonator is a magnaflow and is it a camaro resonator as well and do you by chance know what reference / model # .
The rear exhaust what model and year camaro does that come from and do you by chance have the model # on that too ???
i would really appreciate the info
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| Linky |
sxmdaniel - the model number is in this thread and in my gallery. The resonator is just a generic glass-pack muffler.
As I mentioned previously, I would recommend replacing just the rear muffler first. If you would like it to be louder, then replace the center muffler. |
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| sxmdaniel |
| Thank you Linky I will start by replacing the rear muffler first and see how it sounds based on your advise and if needed install the resonator , i have however already ordered a SS resonator from flowmaster with the muffler based on your reference model , i guess if i don't use it someone will be eager to buy it down here considering that they are not available here on island . |
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| verse214 |
will the expensive exhaust systems on bespokevip.com sound better than a substitute? or are they just the same with no difference whatsoever?
I'm pretty sure there is a small difference at least right? and if so.. what is the difference?
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| sxmdaniel |
quote:
Originally posted by verse214
will the expensive exhaust systems on bespokevip.com sound better than a substitute? or are they just the same with no difference whatsoever?
I'm pretty sure there is a small difference at least right? and if so.. what is the difference?
thanks..
To really answer that i would say you would need to have them side by side . I think that what really makes the difference is price , i've surfed for hours and finally ended up following Linky's advice .
1 ) Are you willing to spend an extra $ 1000.00
2) Will their be such a difference in sound that will justify the extra cash
3) you can add s/s steel tips to the flowmaster set up that's most of what's visible if looks is what you're going after .
4) Horsepower / torque gain ? you probably wouldn't even notice it at this level of Hp and the cvt will smoothen that out anyways .
Whatever choice you make i'm sure will be fine , they will all defenitely change the way your Mo sounds |
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| verse214 |
does anyone on the forum have the weldina exhaust system or another seemingly "overpriced" exhaust? The four points that you mention are the determining factors that will help me decide whether or not I am going to spend that extra 1000 dollars on an exhaust. The most important being your second point where the sound (should and hopefully would) justify the difference in cash. After going through the forum it has become clear that hp and torque gain is just wishful thinking with MO's. I don't really care much for the change in looks since you don't see the entire exhaust system unless the car is flying through the air. I emailed the guys at bespokevip.com asking them why the exhaust systems are that expensive and also if they would be able to provide me with an audio clip or an audio clip with comparable sound to an MO with the weldina. I'm thinking that the weldina exhaust (for $2047) would have a unique sound that wouldn't compromise the peacefulness in the cabin since bespoke does specialize in the "vip" feel for cars.. (someone correct me if i am wrong)...
Does anyone have an exhaust of this "quality" (notice the quotes haha) and if someone does do they think that it is worth it? anyone else think they know why the prices are so high? I've read the other thread but there isn't much about the higher priced systems and the thread concentrates on a satisfactory substitute.. and after seeing the extensive knowledge that most members here have I do not doubt that it would be a great substitute but i'm just curious if there is actually any physical difference between the exhausts or if it is just because of the brand name...
enlighten me =)
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| sxmdaniel |
quote:
Originally posted by verse214
does anyone on the forum have the weldina exhaust system or another seemingly "overpriced" exhaust? The four points that you mention are the determining factors that will help me decide whether or not I am going to spend that extra 1000 dollars on an exhaust. The most important being your second point where the sound (should and hopefully would) justify the difference in cash. After going through the forum it has become clear that hp and torque gain is just wishful thinking with MO's. I don't really care much for the change in looks since you don't see the entire exhaust system unless the car is flying through the air. I emailed the guys at bespokevip.com asking them why the exhaust systems are that expensive and also if they would be able to provide me with an audio clip or an audio clip with comparable sound to an MO with the weldina. I'm thinking that the weldina exhaust (for $2047) would have a unique sound that wouldn't compromise the peacefulness in the cabin since bespoke does specialize in the "vip" feel for cars.. (someone correct me if i am wrong)...
Does anyone have an exhaust of this "quality" (notice the quotes haha) and if someone does do they think that it is worth it? anyone else think they know why the prices are so high? I've read the other thread but there isn't much about the higher priced systems and the thread concentrates on a satisfactory substitute.. and after seeing the extensive knowledge that most members here have I do not doubt that it would be a great substitute but i'm just curious if there is actually any physical difference between the exhausts or if it is just because of the brand name...
enlighten me =)
-alan
I think the 2 main reasons for the price difference is the fact that all those high end Mo specialized exhausts are made out of stainless steel and as we know Ss means $$ and yes you are most likely paying a high premium for the brand name and let's not forget that their really is only 3 brands that i know of that make these specific performance Mo exhausts Nismo , Impul and prussian blue therefore they have the market too , take it or leave it deal .
As far a cabin noise i think you would have more noise coming from the engine compartment with a modified intake than you would with the exhaust and also remember that if their is an exhaust noise it's probably only noticeable on acceleration only due to the fact that tha Cvt will bring you back quickly to a low rpm level At which point you won't hear the heavy growl of the exhaust .
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| sxmdaniel |
quote:
Originally posted by Linky
sxmdaniel - the model number is in this thread and in my gallery. The resonator is just a generic glass-pack muffler.
As I mentioned previously, I would recommend replacing just the rear muffler first. If you would like it to be louder, then replace the center muffler.
Ok tomorrow's the day , got the parts in this morning and will be installing the rear muffler first , hopefully the muffler shop will be able to take me in , will keep you posted |
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| bigjohn |
| Let us know how you make out, hopefully you can post an audio clip!!! |
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| Whispaz |
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Originally posted by bigjohn
Let us know how you make out, hopefully you can post an audio clip!!!
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| sxmdaniel |
Flowmaster 80 series Ref # 42583 [url]
recommended by Linky , love it , I did not remove the center muffler like linky did , i just replaced the r5ear as he recommended , and fantastic , very light rumble on idle and lightly louder on accelaration , nothing unbearable or highly audible in cabin , i would recommend it to anyone it sounds 90 % like the FX 35 , i just love it .
I do have a Flowmaster hushpower resonator to be installed maybe ?? in the furure for a louder rumble ,but for now i love it the way it is , i can defenitely hear more noise coming from the engine compartment with the Z tube and JWT , so for those that have not changed their intake i'm pretty sure that the flowmaster will be nothing but a sweet sweet rumble , defenitely nothing overwhelming to be scared off . |
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| sxmdaniel |
quote:
Originally posted by bigjohn
Let us know how you make out, hopefully you can post an audio clip!!!
Will need to get a digital recorder , but honestly in the meantime just stand up next to a FX 35 and listed to it take off , that,s the sound maybe just a tad bit deeper but that's it , if you are afraid of too much noise don't be it's a sweet sound that you can defenitely deal with , remeber now I DID NOT change the center cat converter that remained original , for that sound you need to ask Linky , he did the full conversion . |
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| nissanlove |
| well i guess it's time for me to do this mod :D |
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| sxmdaniel |
quote:
Originally posted by nissanlove
well i guess it's time for me to do this mod :D
Defenitely :claphead: |
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| sxmdaniel |
| Linky , as i just stated i finished my conversion and am very pleased and thank you for your help and advise . Linky based on what i posted could you tell me in your opinion how much louder you would rate your sound level from 1 to 5 , and do you hear your exhaust level in the cabin when driving , i might consider putting on my resonator based on your answers , however i don't want it to be to loud and have to convert back , please let me know asap , thank you . |
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| Linky |
quote:
Originally posted by sxmdaniel
Linky based on what i posted could you tell me in your opinion how much louder you would rate your sound level from 1 to 5 , and do you hear your exhaust level in the cabin when driving , i might consider putting on my resonator based on your answers , however i don't want it to be to loud and have to convert back , please let me know asap , thank you .
The sound was unbearably loud with no center muffler. Adding the resonator brought it down a little. The only complaint I have with the resonator is there is a loud resonance in the cabin at a certain RPM as I accelerate.
If you're happy with the sound as-is, I'd recommend leaving the center muffler in place. At least spend some time with your current mod before making any more changes.
I'm glad to hear the mod worked out well for you. |
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| sxmdaniel |
quote:
Originally posted by Linky
The sound was unbearably loud with no center muffler. Adding the resonator brought it down a little. The only complaint I have with the resonator is there is a loud resonance in the cabin at a certain RPM as I accelerate.
If you're happy with the sound as-is, I'd recommend leaving the center muffler in place. At least spend some time with your current mod before making any more changes.
I'm glad to hear the mod worked out well for you.
Thank you for answering back so quickly i was hoping you would because i'm going back to the muffler shop tomorrow morning to adjust one of the exhaust tips sticking out about a 1/4 more than the other and was planing on giving the resonator a shot , however based on your valuable info it's probably not what i'm looking for , based on my present set up there is a hardly , bearly noticable sound in the cabin and i defenitely would not want to hear anything inside i was just hoping for a little more rumble at idle but defenitely not on acceleration , so the way it is now is perfect for me .
Again Linky , thank you very much you are the one that made this possible for me and i'm sure for many to come . |
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| virux |
This is the part that is to replace the rear where the dual exhaust tip connects to it right? is this the only piece needed?
btw, which resonator you purchased along to match this new muffler of yours?
I'm thinking about buying the flowmaster #80 like you guys and see if thats enough to produce what the FX35 does, if not, i'll change the resonator.
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Originally posted by sxmdaniel
Flowmaster 80 series Ref # 42583 [url]
recommended by Linky , love it , I did not remove the center muffler like linky did , i just replaced the r5ear as he recommended , and fantastic , very light rumble on idle and lightly louder on accelaration , nothing unbearable or highly audible in cabin , i would recommend it to anyone it sounds 90 % like the FX 35 , i just love it .
I do have a Flowmaster hushpower resonator to be installed maybe ?? in the furure for a louder rumble ,but for now i love it the way it is , i can defenitely hear more noise coming from the engine compartment with the Z tube and JWT , so for those that have not changed their intake i'm pretty sure that the flowmaster will be nothing but a sweet sweet rumble , defenitely nothing overwhelming to be scared off .
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| sxmdaniel |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by virux
[B]This is the part that is to replace the rear where the dual exhaust tip connects to it right? is this the only piece needed?
btw, which resonator you purchased along to match this new muffler of yours?
I'm thinking about buying the flowmaster #80 like you guys and see if thats enough to produce what the FX35 does, if not, i'll change the resonator.
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Ok after having the 80 series on for a while i would have to say that i sounds about 80 % like the Fx 35 the difference being a little less rumble , however still a very nice sound , defenitely not a Mo sound .
Yes Virux the piece with the tips attached the rear muffler , that's the one u change .
I also purchased a hushpower 2 Ref # 1208300 ( exhaust/resonator )I HAVE NOT installed it as yet , i'm a little hesitant due to Linky's comment about the vibration and noise in the cabin , that i don't want , however the hushpower 2 is not a basic glass pack resonator like Linky installed and I'm thinking about installing it and see how it sounds , if too loud right back to the shop and reinstall the original , any opinions ???
Also what is that piece at the end of the exhaust minifold where the two ends meet before the middle exhaust under the engine block , is that the cat converter , if so being down here where there are no emission laws should i remove it , Will it being removed increase noise level or Hp gain or will nothing change and i might as well just leave it there ???
what do you all think ???
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| virux |
great.. the the muffler is coming in friday! going to try to have it installed right away.. shouldn't take longer than an hr having the shop do it. if its not a MO sound and 80% close to the FX, its good enough for me.. The MO barely have any sound to my ears..
If you ever do add the resonator, let me know if it really create a noise while in the cabin..I still prefer the least noise coming into the cabin where the pop charger is going to give it enough of a sound lol
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Originally posted by sxmdaniel
[QUOTE]Originally posted by virux
[B]This is the part that is to replace the rear where the dual exhaust tip connects to it right? is this the only piece needed?
btw, which resonator you purchased along to match this new muffler of yours?
I'm thinking about buying the flowmaster #80 like you guys and see if thats enough to produce what the FX35 does, if not, i'll change the resonator.
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Ok after having the 80 series on for a while i would have to say that i sounds about 80 % like the Fx 35 the difference being a little less rumble , however still a very nice sound , defenitely not a Mo sound .
Yes Virux the piece with the tips attached the rear muffler , that's the one u change .
I also purchased a hushpower 2 Ref # 1208300 ( exhaust/resonator )I HAVE NOT installed it as yet , i'm a little hesitant due to Linky's comment about the vibration and noise in the cabin , that i don't want , however the hushpower 2 is not a basic glass pack resonator like Linky installed and I'm thinking about installing it and see how it sounds , if too loud right back to the shop and reinstall the original , any opinions ???
Also what is that piece at the end of the exhaust minifold where the two ends meet before the middle exhaust under the engine block , is that the cat converter , if so being down here where there are no emission laws should i remove it , Will it being removed increase noise level or Hp gain or will nothing change and i might as well just leave it there ???
what do you all think ???
Thank you
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| sxmdaniel |
Originally posted by virux
[B]great.. the the muffler is coming in friday! going to try to have it installed right away.. shouldn't take longer than an hr having the shop do it. if its not a MO sound and 80% close to the FX, its good enough for me.. The MO barely have any sound to my ears..
If you ever do add the resonator, let me know if it really create a noise while in the cabin..I still prefer the least noise coming into the cabin where the pop charger is going to give it enough of a sound lol
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I will keep you informed of any changes on my end, on your end please keep us informed on how it worked out for you .
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| virux |
Definitely. I'll try to see if I can find some sort of digital audio recorder and record the sound =)
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Originally posted by sxmdaniel
Originally posted by virux
[B]great.. the the muffler is coming in friday! going to try to have it installed right away.. shouldn't take longer than an hr having the shop do it. if its not a MO sound and 80% close to the FX, its good enough for me.. The MO barely have any sound to my ears..
If you ever do add the resonator, let me know if it really create a noise while in the cabin..I still prefer the least noise coming into the cabin where the pop charger is going to give it enough of a sound lol
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I will keep you informed of any changes on my end, on your end please keep us informed on how it worked out for you .
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| sxmdaniel |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by virux
[B]Definitely. I'll try to see if I can find some sort of digital audio recorder and record the sound =)
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The one problem i found in trying to listen to the exhaust sound is that the growl of the Z tube and pop overtake any audible exhaust sound , the best way to listen to it is have a friend drive by on acceleration or up hill while you are standing outside and listening to it pass you by , makes it kind of difficult for recording , i'm actually considering maybe reinstalling the original air intake so that i may possibly enjoy the exhaust sound better , i don't know ?? maybe ?? |
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| virux |
i got the muffler already but didn't have time to go install it today.. probably do it tomorrow morning..
they quoted me at meineke for $250
is this a reasonable price for those who did it?
it includes welding and re-piping and whatever it is needed to get it working. |
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| sxmdaniel |
| It cost me $ 175 , but remember i don't live in the US so prices are probably different here . |
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| ketch.22 |
This muffler change idea sounds great! Did you notice any improvement in performance, gas mileage?? or was it just the better sound? Oh, by the way, what grade of gas does everyone use? I ran my 06 on regular for about 2 months and now I'm running premium for the past month. Don't notice any change in mileage but the engine seems a little smoother??
I'm really tempted to change my muffler (MO is only 3 months old!).:ucrazy: |
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| sxmdaniel |
I love my muffler change , i can't really say much about HP gain , maybe slightly but i love the sound , and the fact that you don't see it from behind like that monster the Mo has hanging out under the rear end originally .
i say :6: to the upgrade |
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| nissanlove |
| how much resonance get's into the passenger cabin?? what i really need is a sound clip to sell this to my dad. please can someone post one. i'm sold on it but it's my dad's car and he's gonna be paying for it so a sound clip is all i need. thanks guys. |
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| sxmdaniel |
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Originally posted by nissanlove
how much resonance get's into the passenger cabin?? what i really need is a sound clip to sell this to my dad. please can someone post one. i'm sold on it but it's my dad's car and he's gonna be paying for it so a sound clip is all i need. thanks guys.
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As i mentioned previously to me the loudest sound comes from the Z tube / pop charger set up , most of what i hear comes from the motor compartment , i would say that cabin noise is minimal ax far as the exhaust is concerned , not anything i can really hear however keep in mind that this is without removing the center exhaust .
Linky removed the center piece and posted a cabin noise at a certain rpm level , but this is with the center muffler replaced with a resonator , i kept mine original . |
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| Live4Jesus |
Alright, alright. Thats it, i'm sold. I'm joining the FM club and letting you know when its done.
I got a friend giving me the backside of a 350z exhaust.. You think I can cut the tips off and weld them on the MO? Anybody had the opportunity to try that? |
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| sxmdaniel |
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Originally posted by Live4Jesus
Alright, alright. Thats it, i'm sold. I'm joining the FM club and letting you know when its done.
I got a friend giving me the backside of a 350z exhaust.. You think I can cut the tips off and weld them on the MO? Anybody had the opportunity to try that?
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No , i never did it , but i did do research considering a 350 z exhaust and it seems that the size and inlets are different , the FM camaro is a perfect fit and smaller too , so considering the cost of the 80 series why go threw the trouble ?? , however if you decide to go that way please keep us informed you never know once applied it might work .
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| Live4Jesus |
| I ordered my 80 series muffler last night. Hopefully I can swap the MO's exhaust tips with the 350z's (only the tips). I'll keep you posted. Thanks |
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| sxmdaniel |
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Originally posted by Live4Jesus
I ordered my 80 series muffler last night. Hopefully I can swap the MO's exhaust tips with the 350z's (only the tips). I'll keep you posted. Thanks
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ahh , the tips only , i'm sure it's possible , i used 3.5 " diameter stainless steel tips , here's a pic of what it looks like .
HEY VIRUX WHAT ABOUT YOUR SET UP , NOTHING YET ??? |
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| nissanlove |
| the tips can be changed. there is a mo driving around the city here with Z tips and one of the members on here also has a set on their Mo so it is do-able. |
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| sxmdaniel |
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Cool, thanks.
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| Live4Jesus |
| Just got back from the muffler shop (Miami Mufflers) I took them my Fm 80 and the 350z muffler so that they can install the FM and cut and weld on the 350z tips. But they told me they can custom install the whole 350z muffler. So they did. It's exactly what I was looking for great clean sound, not much cabin noise (only on take off or passing someone) but thats good cabin noise;) Great look! So now I got an 80series muffler if anyone is iterested. |
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| sxmdaniel |
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Originally posted by Live4Jesus
Just got back from the muffler shop (Miami Mufflers) I took them my Fm 80 and the 350z muffler so that they can install the FM and cut and weld on the 350z tips. But they told me they can custom install the whole 350z muffler. So they did. It's exactly what I was looking for great clean sound, not much cabin noise (only on take off or passing someone) but thats good cabin noise;) Great look! So now I got an 80series muffler if anyone is iterested.
WOW , congrats you're the first with that mod , was it difficult for them to modify and install ?? how about some pics we would love to see it , i 'm sure many of us , me included wanted to attempt the adapt but didn't have the :jump3: :jump3: .
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| reddog |
| Hi Folks I am think about using a Manaflow 14266, unit instead of the Flowmaster unit. Anybody have any thoughts to share on this? |
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| Live4Jesus |
| Sorry reddog, I have no idea what a magnaflow might sound like?? But I know the muffler definetly plays an important role in the sound you will get out of your mo.. So you might want to keep researching on the muffler before any decision. :blahblah: |
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| reddog |
Well, I went ahead and did it, I installed a Magnaflow 14266 and 14865 in the center, muffler shop used 2.25 pipe, from the cat all the back. Sounds nice and deep, and is not much louder than factory installed. But my biggest fear with doing this is that my MPG would suffer, in fact it has gone to other side. I use to get 18-19 MPG, but now I get 22-23 in traffic, can not wait to make a road trip, great power and very good acceleration.
So I am very confused, here. Could someone who has much greater knowledge about this tell, or me or come up with an idea. As how heck this mod has got things so much better. Honestly I was after a deeper tone, and was willing the pay the price in lost MPG.:confused: |
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| Live4Jesus |
| I know one thing... the plumbing in my bathroom is bigger than the piping in the mo. for air to flow thru those pipes must be like drinking ice cream thru a straw. I'm considering redoing the piping on mine too. A little concerned about CVT reactions.:confused: |
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| reddog |
| For those who may wish to do this I got the parts for $291.15 with shipping, and two tips plus $160.00 at the shop for for labor and pipe etc.:cool: |
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| Tech_Guy |
I just had a Flowmaster 80 series installed yesterday in my 04 Mo. I had already had the resonator cut out a while back and that just wasn't doing it for me, so now I have to go back next week and the shop's going to put in a Magnaflow straight-through muffler where my resonator was. It will be in next Wed or so and the shop says that it will kill the "wooo-wooo" before it gets to the FM. Sounds perfect in theory - I'll let you know how it sounds once it's done.
I love the way the FM sounds, but with the CVT always trying to get me down to around 1,000 rpm, that's RIGHT where the FM sounds like riceboy when you don't have a resonator. That's annoying. Everywhere else in the range sounds hella sweet though. I'll make a sound recording tonight for those interested in hearing the before and after. |
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| NissanHeel_1 |
| Anyone know if a Dynomax Ultra flo or Super turbo muffler would be a better choice than the Flowmaster? Their sound is said to be lower toned than flowmasters and have higher flow rates. |
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| sxmdaniel |
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Originally posted by Tech_Guy
I just had a Flowmaster 80 series installed yesterday in my 04 Mo. I had already had the resonator cut out a while back and that just wasn't doing it for me, so now I have to go back next week and the shop's going to put in a Magnaflow straight-through muffler where my resonator was. It will be in next Wed or so and the shop says that it will kill the "wooo-wooo" before it gets to the FM. Sounds perfect in theory - I'll let you know how it sounds once it's done.
I love the way the FM sounds, but with the CVT always trying to get me down to around 1,000 rpm, that's RIGHT where the FM sounds like riceboy when you don't have a resonator. That's annoying. Everywhere else in the range sounds hella sweet though. I'll make a sound recording tonight for those interested in hearing the before and after.
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Please post yuor recording , i'm curious to hear what it sounds like , i kept my original resonator ( center muffler ) and installed only the FM 80 series and like the way it sounds , but it would be nice to hear yours for a comparison purpose .
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| nissanlove |
| please, a recording is all i need to push my dad to commit to this project. |
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| sxmdaniel |
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Originally posted by nissanlove
please, a recording is all i need to push my dad to commit to this project.
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He's not convinced yet ???, let me talk to him . |
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| nissanlove |
| all i need is a sound clip. i've done a few mods without him knowing to both the murano and mazda 3 and most of them i've had to convert back to stock because he found the noise annoying. |
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| Tech_Guy |
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Originally posted by NissanHeel_1
Anyone know if a Dynomax Ultra flo or Super turbo muffler would be a better choice than the Flowmaster? Their sound is said to be lower toned than flowmasters and have higher flow rates.
I don't really think I would want to drive this thing if the tone was even lower than it is right now. As a matter of fact, the deepest notes of the FM80 are the reason I'm having the Magnaflow installed where the resonator was. Sounds great while you're revving it parked, but it's REALLY annoying what the tone does as the CVT gets comfortable around 1k rpms.
Others that asked for the sound file, it got really windy here by the time I got home from work, so I may have to wait til tomorrow morning to get anything besides wind noise. I will not forget you though. |
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| Tech_Guy |
OK, here's my sound capture - actually it's a lil video from my camcorder. The Mo starting & revving with a FM 80 series in the rear and no resonator.
murano_flowmaster80_no_resonator.avi
I will post an "after" recording later this week after I get the Magnaflow installed mid-pipe.
If you don't have the codec for the video, you need the latest "xvid" codec. You should be able to hear the audio no matter what though - it's MP3. |
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| nissanlove |
| ok were do i get this xvid codec and i only get about half a second of sound, then nothing for the rest. |
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| nissanlove |
| ok i got the sound on my other comp and it is pretty deep. i don't however, like the rasp when you rev it higher without the resonator. could others comment on this sound clip and let me know what theirs sound like with the stock resonator in place. but man when you turned it on, it sounded almost V8ish. |
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| Tech_Guy |
Yeah, it gets deep at the bottom. I'm really hoping the Magnaflow I'm putting in on Wednesday will lose the really high buzz and the deep drone. We'll see.
I had a chance to drive it on the interstate today for about an hour and it's not really the rpm's that affect the sound - it's more the load on the motor and where it is in its torque range. It's under load at the bottom of the torque curve that it sounds like a Civic with a fart cannon (insert angst here).
So I am really on the edge of my seat for what the Magnaflow will do. If it's good, I'll post that part number here too. And another vid for the "after". Right now, the sound's a bit much for me, but if you read Linky's post that started this thread, it was for him too. |
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| bigjohn |
| How about a drive-by sound clip? I am interested to hear the tone when the MO is moving, i.e. cvt . |
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| Tech_Guy |
Hey Big John... I'm probably not going to do a drive-by clip until I have the MF muffler installed in place of my stock resonator that's currently MIA.
It sounds as odd as you probably think it does... like you have a manual tranny and the clutch is blown or you just don't know how to shift. That's why I'm hoping the second muffler hushes it up a bit. We'll see Wednesday :D |
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| sxmdaniel |
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Originally posted by nissanlove
ok i got the sound on my other comp and it is pretty deep. i don't however, like the rasp when you rev it higher without the resonator. could others comment on this sound clip and let me know what theirs sound like with the stock resonator in place. but man when you turned it on, it sounded almost V8ish.
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Nissanlove , my fm sounds like tech guy on start up and ildle just a tad bit more quiet , however it does not sound the same on acceleration/revs it's much more suttle but remeber i still have my stock resonator . |
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| nissanlove |
| i would also be keeping my stock resonator that's why i'm asking for comparisons. |
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| Tech_Guy |
| Well I finally had the Magnaflow installed inline where my resonator was. I can fully agree with Linky - it was too loud with just the Flowmaster. The Magnaflow toned it down a LOT. It does sound very close to an FX35 now and I am (and more importantly the wife is) totally happy with it now. It may be after dark here when I get home tonight, but I will go ahead and do another start-idle vid clip so you can hear the change. It's still got more of the bass tones and a little raspy growl, but you can't hear it bellowing like you could before when I'm in traffic. Look for the sound to come in a couple hours or so. |
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| nissanlove |
| WOOT WOOT can't wait. will this finally convince my dad. |
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| NissanHeel_1 |
| I wonder if going w/ magnaflow for both would sound as good/better? I read on a Titan forum that the mag sound on a V6 sounds better than the fm on a 6?? |
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| Tech_Guy |
To everyone that was waiting on this, I apologize. I'm moving this week, so things got a little pushed back. I have two clips here. The first clip is with the camera on the ground right behind the car, pretty much the same as the first, but with the Magnaflow muffler (part #11255) instead of the stock resonator.
http://www.thann.net/murano_wmf_fm80.avi
The second one was taken with the camera on the dash while I went for a trip around the block.
http://www.thann.net/murano_wmf_fm80_driving.avi
I hope that does the trick for you, Nissanlove! |
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| nissanlove |
| i think it sounds great!! much better than without the resonator and i think it'll be even more subtle with the stock resonator in place. did you have your window open during the in car drive because if not, then we for the most part know were most of the road noise is comming from haha. |
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| Whispaz |
| any pics of the whole set-up? |
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| Tech_Guy |
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Originally posted by nissanlove
i think it sounds great!! much better than without the resonator and i think it'll be even more subtle with the stock resonator in place. did you have your window open during the in car drive because if not, then we for the most part know were most of the road noise is comming from haha.
Hah! Yeah, I had the front windows down so you can hear the exhaust. With them up, you can only hear a difference in the very lowest notes inside the cabin.
About the pics, no, I didn't have my camera with me when it was up on the rack. |
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| Linky |
Tech_Guy -
Thank you for posting the sound clip! Your installation sounds exactly like mine. |
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| Whispaz |
| Just recieved the magnaflow today. Now I just need to get the FM and MF installed. Cant wait |
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| Marin_fa |
I am glad to have found this website/forum. Thanks to all for spending the time to provide us with your trials and tribulations..
I'm in a bit of a quest to upgrade the exhaust system.. not necessarily because I hate it, but because I hope to get better MPG (currently reading 16.9 mpg) and the system I have now is not original. I bought used from a non-Nissan dealer. There were problems with the original, and I had the car dealer switch it out. Not knowing much about it then... I accepted it and am now having some regrets. (Is it appropriate, within this thread, to mention I hate that fuel shield?)
When I started reading about Linky and Tech_guy and some of you others, it got me going.
So, I'm down with the Flowmaster 80 for the back end.
But, as far as the mid-muffler goes... what models are people using? I'd like to replace my crappy one with a smaller one, then tuck it up a bit better than what mine does now. Linky, you mentioned a Magnaflow, circular-cross-section, I think. Could you throw out the model number for me? Tech_Guy, same thing...
Also, has anyone on here tried to weld their own? I'm fairly handy - but I only have a stick welder. I have access to a wire-feed MIG box. Anyone have any experiences? I can't seem to find any info on the web about muffler/exhaust welding. I understand about breathing oxidized zinc, health effects, etc. I'm more concerned about the weld quality. Do I need Argon?
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| Whispaz |
| The part number for the Magnaflow is 11255 |
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| Marin_fa |
Thanks, Whispaz...
R U sure of the model? I googled 11255 and the inlet/outlets are 2.25" dia.
I was under the impression that the stock tube from the catconv was 2.5" dia.
Looks like the 2.5" diam version of that Magnaflow is 11256.
see: http://www.performance-curve.com/br...-MagnaFlow.html
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