| billy bronco |
I have a new 2006 Murano with about 1000 miles on it. When we back it up I get an anoying brake squeal from the front brakes when you touch the pedal lightly. Never hear anything while moving forward. Car has been in the shop four times, last they turned the rotors and sanded pads. This helped some but its still there a little and getting louder again. Dealer says its normal for a little noise first thing in the morning, but thats it. I get it all the time. Dealer is starting to give me the run around, hoping I go away and live with it.
Anyone else have this problem? |
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| njjoe |
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Have they tried new pads?
Also, you really do not want them to turn the rotors. The MO's rotors are thin enough as it is. The thinner they are the more susceptible they are to warping.
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| hfelknor |
Tell that dealer that he is full of it.
MY Murano doesn't make any noise.
NEITHER did the ones I test drove.
Neither do 99% of the Muranos on this board....and that is well over a thousand of them.
There is a TSB that completely quieted my 03 down.
Calls for new pads of a particular part number.
Look up the TSBs in the stickey above. IIRC it was 04011.
As to turning the rotors, one of our very fine contributors (Generator) got rid of his Murano at least partially because Nissan jerked him around and turned his rotors.
4 times.
Then they wouldn't replace the rotors in warranty because they had been turned too much.
You need to do two things.
Get new pads.
Get a new servicing dealer.
Homer |
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| manitoba murano |
My '06 squeals when I brake in reverse almost every time. It seems to be getting better, and I am now approaching 4000km (2500 miles) The brakes work, the squealing causes no damage--I see no reason to even worry about it.
What I would worry about is my dealer turning the rotors--that is the strangest fix I have ever heard for this type of problem. Not only is it not adviseable, it is also far more time consuming (ie expensive) for the dealer to do than the simple pad replacement. My guess is your dealer is ful of s*** and the rotors were never turned.
In an old car, with lots of material to work with, I could see a mechanic getting the rotors turned to fix some issues. On a new Murano, forget it. |
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| mgthe3 |
| Mine squeek in the mornings after driving to work when I back into my spot. But that is the only time. I just shrug and fagetaboutit. |
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| zebelkhan |
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Originally posted by mgthe3
Mine squeek in the mornings after driving to work when I back into my spot. But that is the only time. I just shrug and fagetaboutit.
Mine has been doing it for ever (54k miles) and the TSB did not fix it. In fact, the dealer told me it will not fix it before he did it!
However, the TSB calls for replacement of the brake pads. I think I read it here somewhere that a member said the noise was caused by the emergency brake shoes which are on the inside of the hub and do not get replaced by the TSB. I am inclined to believe that is the case. |
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| mgthe3 |
| It really doesn't seem logical to me to be the inner parking brake, but what the hey, I will try applying them a little next time I hear it and see what happens. |
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| njjoe |
mgthe3-
I agree with you. Logic dictates that it cannot be the parking brake because the parking brake's drum brake is not activated when you step on the "regular" brake pedal. In addition, the parking brake's brake shoes are not in contact with the drum unless the parking brake is engaged.
It is almost impossible to pin the noise on the parking brake.
-njjoe |
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| Tyler_Canada |
| I had the brake squeal until I had my rear pads replaced (when they wore out at 75,000km). |
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| hfelknor |
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Originally posted by njjoe
mgthe3-
I agree with you. Logic dictates that it cannot be the parking brake because the parking brake's drum brake is not activated when you step on the "regular" brake pedal. In addition, the parking brake's brake shoes are not in contact with the drum unless the parking brake is engaged.
It is almost impossible to pin the noise on the parking brake.
-njjoe
Especially since I rarely, if ever, use the parking brake, and never in my garage.
Florida is flat, you see.
If you see a hill around these parts, it's because you are standing in a hole.
Homer
BTW, I sincerely doubt that the folks who have had the brake squeal "forever" have any idea of what we are talking bout.
I'm talking about a brake squeal that could be heard many blocks away.
Anybody who had a brake squeal that was that loud who didn't do something about it, deserved the derision I got from my neighbors. If Nissan hadn't fixed it, the Murano was gone. |
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| Charlie's Dad |
| My brakes squeal when I back up in the morning...but I really didn't think anything of it. It is not too loud and I am of the opinion that if that's the only thing I can complain about I will take it all day long. I am very nervous about service departments doing more harm than good and I would rather wait until a "serious" problem before I try to do anything about it. |
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| Ctx |
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Originally posted by Charlie's Dad
My brakes squeal when I back up in the morning...but I really didn't think anything of it. It is not too loud and I am of the opinion that if that's the only thing I can complain about I will take it all day long. I am very nervous about service departments doing more harm than good and I would rather wait until a "serious" problem before I try to do anything about it.
Mine squeak too. 2006. Only on the first back-up of the morning. |
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| Halo |
Mine have been doing it for about the last year or so. Usually first back up of a given drive (morning, afternoon, evening whenever). IOW, when the brakes are cold.
If I had the energy, I'd replace the pads and put some of that anti-squeal goop on the new ones, but the pads have too much life left to bother. Brakes work just fine, in all conditions so I'm leaving it alone. The last thing I want to do is have the dealer screw up perfectly good brakes by doing a shoddy job trying to fix a nuisance.
My opinion has always been that in general the guys who put cars together at the factory tend to do a better job than the bumblies that do it at dealer service centers. So, if it doesn't HAVE TO be taken apart by a service monkey at the dealer, I'll either leave it alone or do it myself... in that order. |
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| MrGrin |
| My '06 MO also squeals when I back up in the morning.... but as most folks have pointed out earlier.... if it aient broken dont fix it. |
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| Ctx |
Let us discuss with my bf who had issues with his '03 Infinity G35 sedan and irritating squeaky brakes since the get-go. Replaced 4x. Known issues there. Not so sure issues here. Yes a squeak is irritating in the morning... I'd feel better if folks could answer about my apparent heat shield pinging every time I get below 20 miles per hour. Thanks.
C. |
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| mgthe3 |
I think that is another thread.
I think we need a Sticky section called "Noises" in the Problems section. |
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| Irishman |
"My '06 MO also squeals when I back up in the morning.... but as most folks have pointed out earlier.... if it aient broken dont fix it."
same here, mine is 3 months old with 4500 miles. Only noise I notice is when backing out after being parked over night. |
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| Kocioblue MO |
| I have 48 xxx KM's on my 2004 SL AWD....It squeaked in reverse since the moment I drove it off the dealership lot. BUT I didn't complain...I have owned many cars that squeaked and made noise in reverse and I figure its just a characteristic of high performance brakes. Heck, The brembos on my 2006 WRX STi squeak the same way as the muranos...:2: |
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| powerglide |
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Originally posted by Halo
......The last thing I want to do is have the dealer screw up perfectly good brakes by doing a shoddy job trying to fix a nuisance.
My opinion has always been that in general the guys who put cars together at the factory tend to do a better job than the bumblies that do it at dealer service centers. So, if it doesn't HAVE TO be taken apart by a service monkey at the dealer, I'll either leave it alone or do it myself... in that order.
DAMNED STRAIGHT!!
Thats exactly how I feel too.
I have som many little nuisances in my new 2006 SL that I am furiuos that I am forced to live with. Example, rocking chairs. There's a TSB out there to fix it but it is very complocated and involves ripping apart the seats......I don't trust the local wrench monkeys at he stealership to put it back in factory condition. Hence I have to live with it. Same with these lttle rattles, pops and squeeks from a brand new car.....total BS |
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| verse214 |
I've had the same problem with my brakes and it sounds like it's coming from the pedal. It started after the friggin 3rd day i bought the damn thing (2007 MO). I've had it for 2 weeks now and I tried using wd40 which made it go away... until the wd40 evaporated... i took a flashlight to the brake pedal area and there was ALREADY rust on some of the metal parts.... i'm going to the dealer tomorrow (since today is sunday) and they better fix it or give me a new Murano or all of my money (or my dad's money) back....
-alan |
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| hfelknor |
That is a different problem alan.
Control yourself.
There is no need to get angry. Try for a little maturity here.
The reason they have service departments is to fix little things like this that happen to a VERY small percentage of Muranos.
That happens to be true of all cars.
There are countless threads on BRAKE squeal and Brake PEDAL squeal.
Do a search and see what has been done for your problem which apparently is a squeal coming from your brake PEDAL (and likely happens when going forward also).
Both are generally fixed by TSBs.
Homer |
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| sxmdaniel |
Mine used to squeak , and i was taught a long time ago by my mechanic cousin when this happens it's usually caused by an uneven wear on the pads on their extremities , and yes i could happen a few days into having just bought the car .
The remedy is , and it worked for me , remove the brake pads and use a metalic hand file and just make a few light passes on the ends ( upper and lower ) of the pads to remove the slight lip that causes the squeal , sometimes it's not even noticable by eye , but do it anyways . |
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| powerglide |
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Originally posted by verse214
I've had the same problem with my brakes and it sounds like it's coming from the pedal. It started after the friggin 3rd day i bought the damn thing (2007 MO). I've had it for 2 weeks now and I tried using wd40 which made it go away... until the wd40 evaporated... i took a flashlight to the brake pedal area and there was ALREADY rust on some of the metal parts.... i'm going to the dealer tomorrow (since today is sunday) and they better fix it or give me a new Murano or all of my money (or my dad's money) back....
-alan
Well rusting on the brake rotors is normal for anycar.
Unless you have carbon rotors or something, the exposed steel surface will slightly rust no worries. Don't spray any wd40 in there, not the way to go.... |
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| njjoe |
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Originally posted by powerglide
Don't spray any wd40 in there, not the way to go....
Damn! Now you tell me. ;)
-njjoe |
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| bob1 |
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Originally posted by powerglide
Well rusting on the brake rotors is normal for anycar.
Unless you have carbon rotors or something, the exposed steel surface will slightly rust no worries. Don't spray any wd40 in there, not the way to go....
Absolutely, anytime I wash either car the rotors are rusted. By the time I finish drying the car, the rust is visible. I back the car up and apply brakes, go forward and do the same. Bam, good as new. WD-40 on the rotors? Oh, the rust may not form but I'd bet you can't stop the car either.
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| Eric L. |
| Grease on the pad's friction surface will not stop the squealing. Try some metallic based high temp grease between the pad backing and the shim - most disc brake squeal is caused by vibration of the brake pad. To do this you'll need to remove the pad though. |
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| JeffC |
This certainly is a lot of response for a 1% defect.
I noticed a rear brake squeal on the test drive (and the fronts rotors were warped). Before I signed on the dotted line I had them agree to replace them. After a few hundred miles the rear rotors looked glazed. After they were replaced there were no more problems with the rears, but I still wish I had walked instead of signed.
Jeff |
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| verse214 |
| i went to the dealer today and they spent an hour disassembling the brake system and lubing it and reassembling it. The problem went away for about 10 minutes. They knew it wouldn't fix it so they ordered a new setup for me and are installing it in a couple of days. hopefully that will fix the problem. |
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| powerglide |
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Originally posted by verse214
i went to the dealer today and they spent an hour disassembling the brake system and lubing it and reassembling it. The problem went away for about 10 minutes. They knew it wouldn't fix it so they ordered a new setup for me and are installing it in a couple of days. hopefully that will fix the problem.
Please tell us what the new set-up consists of (did they replace the rotors?) and the results please. I will like to go to the dealer armed with a potential solution so that I don't get the shrug off. |
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| Eric L. |
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Originally posted by verse214
i went to the dealer today and they spent an hour disassembling the brake system and lubing it and reassembling it. The problem went away for about 10 minutes. They knew it wouldn't fix it so they ordered a new setup for me and are installing it in a couple of days. hopefully that will fix the problem.
I wonder what is different between the OEM pads from the factory and the updated design? Too bad we don't have any pictures of the new pads - I have pictures of the old ones though. |
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| verse214 |
| it's not the rotors or pads. I think it's the entire brake pedal and switch assembly. I'll tell you the exact name after I get it done three days from now. |
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