| Kris |
For those who have Garmin GPS - there are POI's (Points of Interests) available for download for Red Light Camera locations. I have loaded cameras for Atlanta - see the pic below. However, other cities are available. How does it work? You get audible and video warning once you get close enough. The proximity alert that is customizable. I set it up to 400 feet but it can be changed easily.
May prove God Sent for some...;) |
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| hfelknor |
Whatever it takes to keep the &(*#&* from running red lights, I am in favor of.
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| njjoe |
That's cheating! I like it.
I love the idea of the Red Light Cameras. I saw them when I lived in Maryland and only wish the nitwits in Trenton would approve their use here (NJ). There are some intersections in my area that are extremely dangerous because of red light runners.
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| GripperDon |
| Also check speed and illegal turns. |
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| TTZ32MURANO |
Hi guys i have a nuvi 360 i got online the poi for red light cameras in NYC but for some reason they dont work i know the city is full of red light cameras please help
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| manitoba murano |
Try stopping at all red lights, and you won't have a problem. I personally think having a 400 foot warning of an upcoming red light cam is counterproductive to improving traffic safety. No offence, but using this as anything more than just a gimmick is moronic.
Running red lights kills people, whether or not there is a red light camera. |
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| Kris |
manitoba murano
I am not sure if this is counterproductive. For these drivers who do obey the traffic rules it really does not matter. For those who would run over the red light - it does as this will prevent them from running at least selected red lights.
Now before you jump on me - I agree that running the red light is totally moronic. And I have no mercy over people who do it! |
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| mgthe3 |
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Originally posted by manitoba murano
Try stopping at all red lights, and you won't have a problem. I personally think having a 400 foot warning of an upcoming red light cam is counterproductive to improving traffic safety. No offence, but using this as anything more than just a gimmick is moronic.
Running red lights kills people, whether or not there is a red light camera.
My wife got nailed by the one at pleasant hill and Ptree on the way to work. She didn't run the light, she was in the intersection when it went red. You see, what we have here in Atlanta are smart asses that like to get part way through a turn light and then slooooow down to cause others to be stopped by the light. My wife just happened to be caught by one. She said the traffic in front of him was about 200 feet away.
I agree, running lights is moronic, but all those nailed by the cams weren't running them.
A week after she got the ticket in the mail, she was at the very same light when an ambulance came up behind her with its siren blaring. The driver motioned her to drive through the light, she had to hesitate for a second before she did. She didn't get nailed for that one though.
But it was a good lesson for her. If the light even hints at yellow she plants the brake pedal.
LOL!
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| Kris |
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Originally posted by mgthe3
If the light even hints at yellow she plants the brake pedal.
LOL!
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I do the same. However I always watch closely traffic behind me. At least twice when I had to brake (not at traffic lights though) I saw drivers behind me panicking. If it wasn't for the very wide shoulder they would have rear ended me! You see Murano brakes are great. On the other hand some people do not maintain they brakes......
On the other occasion I was driving on a Buford Dam Road, very nice winding road, I saw a young girl very closely following me. She drove a very old pickup truck. I did not feel comfortable. When a car at front of me slowed down and I braked - she had no choice but pull over to oncoming traffic lane! Jerks like this cause most of stupid accidents that can be prevented.
OK, now back to the red light cameras......what was the question? ;) |
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| GripperDon |
| Our traffic is so congested that it is almost impossible to tell if you can enter the intersection even if it is is green. Personally I would like to see a digital count down timer posted that tells seconds till yellow. There are so many snow birds here you can't even move. Global warming I would love it to keep some of those birds up north. Our average freeway speed must be 15mph. :eek: |
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| Corin |
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Originally posted by GripperDon
Personally I would like to see a digital count down timer posted that tells seconds till yellow.
YES!!!!!!!! YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!
I've thought about this as well. Here in Seattle, our yellow lights are REALLY long. Then I go back to my small hometown of Pullman, and the yellow lights only last a split second. Takes me a few lights before I can switch back and forth they are so different.
They've started putting countdown timers for the crosswalks over the last few years (when it starts blinking "don't walk" there's a number counting down until it stops flashing). It would be nice to have the same system for the lights, basically make the yellows even longer but have a 5-8 second countdown.
There would be NO excuse for running red lights and I think overall it would be much safer. |
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| njjoe |
I have a solution to the "running-the-red-light" problem. It is simple and is supported by all the major tire producers and tow truck associations.
Simply put spike strips at all major intersections. The second the light turns red the spikes will elevate from the roadway. It might take a little getting used to, but I guarantee it will cut down on the number of red light runners. :D
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| WrenchGremlin |
In Chicago they are deploying the Red light camera's as well. The problem I have with them is they also reprogram the yellow duration to be about 2 seconds long. To not run a red you have to be driving under the limit with your foot over the brake.
I agree you should always be ready to stop, but knowing that the intersection has a camera may alert you to the fact that the person in front of you may stop very suddenly. Remember, it’s a trade-off – statistics show that rear-end collisions increase with red light camera’s, but it’s generally a safer collision than a side impact.
Part of the problem is the green light shouldn’t turn green the instant the other light turns red. A 2 or 3 second delay would keep people from timing the lights. People timing the change of light to green are just as guilty of accidents as people late on the change to red.
Last summer I was out on my motorcycle at 11 PM, just going for a relaxing night drive. I was sitting at an empty intersection watching my mirrors when to my horror a car coming up behind me wasn’t slowing down. He was busy watching the opposite light turn yellow and figured he would sail into the intersection at 45 MPH just as it our light turns green. At the last instant he noticed me strobing my brake light trying to get his attention and he swerved and just missed me by about 2ft…. blowing through the intersection which was still RED. |
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| manitoba murano |
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My wife got nailed by the one at pleasant hill and Ptree on the way to work. She didn't run the light, she was in the intersection when it went red.
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Must be an ancient camera, as the ones we use take two or more separate pics--one of the vehicle entering the intersection, and one in the intersection. This leaves little doubt as to the circumstances. I have trouble believing that any municipality can successfully enforce a red light camera ticket with only the one picture.
Regardless of the excuses, complaints, etc., this is akin to having a radar detector to help prevent you from being improperly ticketed for speeding. If you don't want a speeding ticket, don't speed. If you don't want to get a ticket (or kill someone) when running a red light, stop. Is the yellow light not warning enough? How about the flashing 'don't walk' indicators that precede the yellow? Slow down, don't speed up, and it will be far easier to stop for the red.
As for the gridlock issue, lol, blame it on Canada eh. SouthPark has nothing on you. |
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| GripperDon |
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Originally posted by manitoba murano
Must be an ancient camera, as the ones we use take two or more separate pics--one of the vehicle entering the intersection, and one in the intersection. This leaves little doubt as to the circumstances. I have trouble believing that any municipality can successfully enforce a red light camera ticket with only the one picture.
Regardless of the excuses, complaints, etc., this is akin to having a radar detector to help prevent you from being improperly ticketed for speeding. If you don't want a speeding ticket, don't speed. If you don't want to get a ticket (or kill someone) when running a red light, stop. Is the yellow light not warning enough? How about the flashing 'don't walk' indicators that precede the yellow? Slow down, don't speed up, and it will be far easier to stop for the red.
As for the gridlock issue, lol, blame it on Canada eh. SouthPark has nothing on you.
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| mgthe3 |
quote:
Originally posted by manitoba murano
Must be an ancient camera, as the ones we use take two or more separate pics--one of the vehicle entering the intersection, and one in the intersection. This leaves little doubt as to the circumstances. I have trouble believing that any municipality can successfully enforce a red light camera ticket with only the one picture.
Regardless of the excuses, complaints, etc., this is akin to having a radar detector to help prevent you from being improperly ticketed for speeding. If you don't want a speeding ticket, don't speed. If you don't want to get a ticket (or kill someone) when running a red light, stop. Is the yellow light not warning enough? How about the flashing 'don't walk' indicators that precede the yellow? Slow down, don't speed up, and it will be far easier to stop for the red.
As for the gridlock issue, lol, blame it on Canada eh. SouthPark has nothing on you.
Nope, as a matter of fact there were 4 pictures with the ticket.
The first one showed her at .10 seconds after the light went red which showed her about 20 feet after the stop line so technically she was past the stop line when the light went red. The second pic was .50 seconds after and she was still in the intersection.
She got caught, just as I said, behind some bleeding idiot that was creeping through the intersection.
You know, the ones that have 100 feet between them and the car in front of them.
Usually when I encounter them I act like I am them and go, "Oh! I'm in a car! And HEY, I'm at an intersection, and WOW the light is green!"
The kids and wife laugh and it takes the sting out of having to deal with one more idiot on the road. |
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| UncaDanno |
Charlotte used to have red light cameras and van-mountd speed cameras.
The red light cameras were operated by a private contractor. Nearly all cities that have red light cameras use contractors for this. The deal was this: the contractor kept $35 of the $50 fine. The remainder went to the city. The city advised the contractor as to where to set up the cameras, guaranteeing a minimum number of tickets. Oh, and you could try to appeal the ticket, but the contractor enjoyed a 0% overrule rate. You see, they were the ones you had to appeal to.
Sweet deal, indeed, for the contractor! The Boss Lady got nailed by one. She still has the picture that shows that the light was yellow when she entered the intersection and didn't turn red until her front bumper had entered the crosswalk on the other side. This is a four lane, with left and right turn lanes (in other words WIDE) intersection. She made an appeal, which cost an additional $35 and, of course, was denied.
A guy I worked with was caught by a "squatter". The driver in front of him noticed that the light was changing and stopped in the middle of the intersection! Of course the camera caught my co-worker, whose vehicle blocked the view of the squatter's tag. The squatter sat in the intersection until the light turned green again. Since it took so long for my co-worker to clear the intersection, the camera decided that his vehicle was actually two. He got two tickets. And had to pay them both. Plus, of course the $35-per appeal fee.
After a few months, the number of t-bones decreased. So did the number of tickets. The number of rear-end collisions skyrocketed.
Then the number of tickets increased again. People noticed that those cautions just seemed to get shorter and shorter! Folks complained to the city who said there was nothing wrong with the duration of the cautions. State DOT, however, reported that duration of cautions at the camera intersections were, indeed, now around half the standard caution light duration for the type of intersection, speed limit, traffic volume, etc. So the greens for left turns got shorter. The intersection of Central and Eastway became notorious for its split-second left turn signal.
Eventually, the city had the cameras pulled and said they would "review the process". Of course, the taxpayers have been making up for the shortfall in the contractor's revenue guarantee. This morning it was announced that the city has decided against reinstating the red light cameras.
After buying out the contract for a half a mil.
The speed camera vans were de-commissioned after about a year after a storm of complaints about inconsistencies in the operators' judgement regarding how much leeway to allow before issuing citations, where to set up, and the increased number of rear-enders when people realized they were passing one of the vans.
The vans and cameras were purchased and operated by the city police. So when the plug was pulled on them, the taxpayers were out just around $300k per van. I think there were four of them. |
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| GripperDon |
| If only over shadowed by the folks that elect them. :D |
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| TTZ32MURANO |
I Have a nuvi 360 i download some redlight camera files but i can copy them to a new folder or to nuvi.... also when i click in properties it say: location :archive root directory...
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