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Rpm goes high when its slippery ! WHY - Click HERE for Original Thread
elerico
Situation :

when i want to go somewhere, and its a little bit slippery, i accelerate a little bit and the rpm goes high around 5500RPM-5800RPM and stay high until i depress the gaz pedal..

i dont know why the rpm stay high if i dont press the gaz pedal at open throttle ???

i just press the gaz pedal a little bit

can you tell me why....
Gonzo
The MO/CVT is sensitive to the throttle position. I think you just need to get use to it... a small amout of throttle to around 2K is all that is needed but it does take a light foot.

Go easy.
njjoe
elerico-

When you apply the throttle and the RPMS climb to 5,500+, I assume the wheels are also spinning, correct? If not not, then there is a problem in the tranny.

You either have a very heavy throttle foot or a problem with the tranny.

-njjoe
elerico
maybe the wheel spin but im not sure...

but im pretty sure the wheel are not spinning all the time when i see the rpm going to 5500!

maybe the wheel spin 5sec and after im on my way and the wheel dosent spin and the rpm stay at 5500 for maybe 20-25sec


i dont know why !!!
njjoe
elerico-

I have a couple of questions... Does your MO have AWD? Traction Control? When you say the RPMs are at 5,500 what is the approximate vehicle speed?

-njjoe
Kris
Elerico,

I am not sure if I correctly understand what are you trying to say. But my experience (FWD, no traction control) is that when there is slippery, or I really push hard and wheels loose traction, rpm does go high, I think close to 5,000 – 5,500. Even when I take the foot off the accelerator pedal the rpm stay high for a while. 25 second? I think it would be exaggeration. I would say a few second. I think this is because CVT learn that you want to go fast and need a lot of power and keeps the ration at the right level. Just my guess and experience…
elerico
AWD

and maybe 35-40KM/h
elerico
I hope this is not a trouble with my tranny
manitoba murano
If you accelerate hard, the revs go high, with or without wheelspin. Even with wheelspin, if you don't hammer the throttle, the revs stay down below 3000. If you have AWD, wheelspin at the front would transfer torque to the rear wheels, reducing wheelspin at the front, and RPM's. If you have a Canadian model MO, you also have VDC (at least if it's a newer model), and this would further reduce wheelspin and RPM's.

Sounds to me like either:
a) you have a problem with the transmission
or
b) you have an overly heavy right foot.

I'm guessing it's a), since you clearly must realize that hammering the throttle will lead to high revs and wheelspin. Right?
Eric L.
There is no way you can get the RPMs up to 5800RPM due to wheelspin on an AWD Murano, unless the AWD isnt working right.

It almost sounds like a sticking throttle body, but geez 5800 rpm for 25 seconds, you'd hit the car in front of you!

My first suggestion would be for you to check your CVT fluid level.
elerico
how can i check the CVT fuel level ?

25sec.. no.. mayve 10-15sec

you know i put more to be sure !!

but i hope this is not my tranny..

on the road never i will see my rpm goes high

on ice and snow.. a little bit more when i want to drift a little bit..

so whats the answer ??

SECOND TRY

if i go on a snow road and i want to drift..
im going at WOT full throttle and the rpm stay at 5500 ans if a depress the pedal, the rpm stay at 5500 for 4-5sec

normal or not ?
Eric L.
You mean when you let off the pedal the rpms don't fall immediately, right? "Depress" contrary to its modifier, actually means the same as "press" (strange, isn't it).

I suggest you pay $20 and download the technical service manual for the Murano (do a search on this board to find out how) - it shows you how to check the CVT fluid level.

It also sounds like you are just driving your Murano very hard - I would be more worried about trashing the transfer case and AWD system than "having fun in the snow."
elerico
i dont think i will trash my xcase and awd system

the Mo , i think, was build to have fun do on a drift or work a little bit hard by towing something !

but, i feel the tranny will crash in my hand
Eric L.
Well you can believe what you want, but the people who have replied to this post with advice are literally the "veterans of the veterans" of the forum - they've been here for many years and thousands of posts. From what I've read, the transfer case/AWD is the weak link in the chain, although the CVT also has be taken care of (first thing to check is the fluid).

To check the fluid, leave the transmission in park with engine idling at normal temperature (needle a little less than halfway), use a small screwdriver to depress the tab in the dipstick, pull out the dipstick, wipe it clean, rotate the head 180 degrees (so it doesn't lock when you reinsert), reinsert, and pull it out to take a reading. It should be within the "normal zone." If you have to ask where the CVT dipstick is, just get the service manual. The CVT uses Nissan NS-2 fluid - you cannot use normal ATF in it.
Kris
elerico,

it is very likely that there is nothing wrong with your car. My FWD behaves in a similar way.

However, I do not believe that Murano was designed for "drifting". As Eric advised I would never drift in a AWD Murano. It is just too risky. If you like it - go for it. In the end it is you who will pay the bill.....
elerico
i think i will LEFT THE DRIFT :P

i read a lot about the xcase and the tranny and i hope i will never have trouble !

why the CRV dosent have trouble like the MO
elerico
cvt fluid = FULL
elerico
i find the throttle a little bit "prime"

you dont need to press hard to get power..

sometime i felt the tranny with a little kick...

not always smooth..

what do you think ?

i just want an opinion..

maybe i cant control my right foot...:rolleyes:

a little kick like an automatic tranny...

but not very often.

xcase or tranny or my mind ??? :P
Eric L.
I've felt the "kick" too - sometimes when slowing down I lift my foot off the gas, then seeing traffic is clear, foot goes back on gas and if I am a little too enthusiastic, the MO violently lurches forward. Its not as violent as say, hammering the gas on a stickshift car in 1st gear, but its a similar feeling.
Kris
elerico,

Low long did you have the Murano?

What cars did you have prior to Murano?

What do you know about cars?

What are your expectations of a car?

How would you describe yourself as a driver?

Do you understand what is Murano?

Do you understand how different systems in a car works?
elerico
elerico,

Low long did you have the Murano? JUNE 30/2006

What cars did you have prior to Murano?
firefly/civic with ls vtec/mx3 v6/accord/prelude 1998/

and i sold my two last honda because i got a car accident 26march2006 and i broke a lumbar vertebra, L1. the doctor told me you will never walk again and i skate since november so :P hahhaha im proud of me :P

What do you know about cars? a lot !

What are your expectations of a car? now, driving me point A to B, and comfort !

How would you describe yourself as a driver? before : CRAZY, now, respectfull

Do you understand what is Murano? yes ! but i find for a 40000$and more car, its a little bit "easy to broke"

Do you understand how different systems in a car works? yes
njjoe
quote:
Originally posted by elerico
... i got a car accident 26march2006 and i broke a lumbar vertebra, L1. the doctor told me you will never walk again and i skate since november so :P hahhaha im proud of me :P

e-

That is great news!!

You should be proud of yourself. I am sure that took a lot of effort and determination. Good for you!

-njjoe
elerico
proud !!

a LOT !!!

they told me i will be at rehab center for 6month and i will left with something to help me to walk and i took 87 days and back to home with NOTHING to help me walking
Kris
elerico,

I can only say WOW! I am glad the things worked out for you so well.

Back to the Murano - keep in mind this car is not designed to do crazy things. It will take you from a to b and will do it well, but racing? I doubt it. So try to be "respectful" driver as you said and everything will be fine...;)
elerico
now, i will try to be soft with my mo...
but i dont want to have trouble with my xcase and tranny

i read a lot in the forum

some user had bad story with "moving" part

i dont want to change my tranny and xcase


but i found it funny that nissan dont try to make something "tuffer" !!!
lilazndemon20
quote:
Originally posted by Eric L.
I've felt the "kick" too - sometimes when slowing down I lift my foot off the gas, then seeing traffic is clear, foot goes back on gas and if I am a little too enthusiastic, the MO violently lurches forward. Its not as violent as say, hammering the gas on a stickshift car in 1st gear, but its a similar feeling.

i've felt this kick also but after i had my ECU reprogramed it went away. it engages smoother and quicker
elerico
how they reprogram the ecu ??
lilazndemon20
not too sure but they probably used their CONSULT tool thingy
manitoba murano
Dude, take it to a dealer for a checkup.

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