| mule |
Anybody else have this problem, my wife sits there, goes to lean forward to get something from her pocketbook and the seatbelt locks on her, she has to un-buckle, retract the belt and re-apply. I never have the problem on the drivers side. I don't know if it is just her, or the Nissan, but I would think it is the Nissan. I am going to call the dealer, but I don't want to leave my car very long just to replace an "over acheiving" seat belt :D
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| njjoe |
mule-
It is the "automatic locking mode".
If you pull the shoulder strap all the way out the "automatic locking mode" will engage. This is used for securing child seats. To disengage the feature simply let the shoulder strap fully retract.
When your wife is leaning forward she is causing the shoulder strap to extend enough to activate the feature. The only solution to get a seatbelt extender or instruct her to not lean so far forward.
-njjoe |
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| mule |
Thanks, my wife thinks it's a "sucky feature" exact quote :-)
On top of it as always. |
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| GripperDon |
| As the sensitively of the reel to rotation speed may still react to the rate of webbing payout being imposed by (your wife) or occupant and lockup. So my advice, is simply to lean forward SLOWLY so as to not lock up the reel. This is a design feature that will however have great benefit in a chash by stopping the payout of webbing quickly. :) |
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| Tyler_Canada |
quote:
Originally posted by njjoe
It is the "automatic locking mode".
If you pull the shoulder strap all the way out the "automatic locking mode" will engage. This is used for securing child seats. To disengage the feature simply let the shoulder strap fully retract.
When your wife is leaning forward she is causing the shoulder strap to extend enough to activate the feature. The only solution to get a seatbelt extender or instruct her to not lean so far forward.
I have this problem too. It doesn't seem very intelligent to me. You're not supposed to put child seats in the front! |
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| GripperDon |
Components and Usage:
The shoulder guide loop, often spoken of as the "d" ring, is the oval guide that the webbing travels through between the retractor and the buckle. Typically attached to the 'B' pillar, or roof line, the shoulder guide loop is often made of metal with a plastic coating, or completely of a plastic.
Prior to Pryo and spring pretensioners, During a significant collision, great enough frictional forces can be generated to melt nylon material from the d-ring onto the webbing, skin can also be abraded or melted onto the webbing.
The belt (now typically a polyester weave with less elastic property but higher tensile loading capabilities) length and a coating of foreign materials like dirt or blood can also be indications of usage. The federal law mandates the width of the webbing to be not less than 1.8 inches except those portions that do not come into contact with the 95 percentile test dummy.
The non-locking retractor allows the webbing to be spooled out at any time without locking and stopping this from happening. This is an older form of the retractor (the original form) and the occupant was responsible for adjusting the webbing length once the belt was buckled. The retractor would spool in excess webbing for stowage inside the retractor housing.
The primary parts are the frame, which houses the mechanism; the spool, which winds the webbing up; the ratchet is located on the sides of the spool and are a portion of the mechanism to stop the spool-out; the spring assembly which acts to put tension on the spool to allow it to draw up the webbing; the lock pawl is a bar that is forced into position across the teeth of the ratchets.
In webbing sensitive mechanisms, (YOUR PROBLEM HERE ) pins on the side of the ratchet stick out. Inertial bars, attached to light springs and mounted to the outer sides of the spool hub, spin freely under normal rotations. Under rapid rotation, with a sudden spool out the inertia of the bars pull them outward elongating the spring and causing the bars to quickly engage with the pins and lock the retractor.
The automatic locking retractor allows the webbing to be with drawn and then rewound but will not permit a second withdrawal until the belt is nearly completely rewound. This device allowed for the installation of a locking device within the mechanism located inside the retractor housing. The mechanism was typically a clutch and locking bar combination which would engage if the belt spooled up an amount when it was in use.
The emergency locking retractor allows the belt to spool out and rewind freely except when a vehicle acceleration demands it locks up. The mechanism may be of an inertial reel nature or vehicle sensitive type.
PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING !!! Webbing sensitive retractors automatically lock when the webbing is suddenly withdrawn, they do NOT lock when the webbing is slowly spooled out. The mechanism of lock up was a mass attached to a light spring. When the retractor began to rapidly spin with sudden pay-out, the mass would lock up the spool and prevent further withdrawal of the webbing from the spool hub.
I could write much more but this should make it clear. Your systems are working correctly! The no kids in front seats is in all but very rare ocassion is the rule. I hope this helps and please see my eariler post. :) |
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| Tyler_Canada |
| Sorry Grip, that's not the issue here. If you pull the seat belt slowly, all the way out, it will click. And after that, you hear a click for every little bit you let it retract. If you lock the belt due to pulling it out fast, or braking (or accelerating hard I found), it doesn't click when you let it retract. It's the locking mode used for child seats in the rear (as described in the manual), but it seems someone deemed it necessary to put it on the front passenger seat belt too. |
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| njjoe |
TC-
The auto-locking feature comes in very handy if you are transporting large objects (boxes, tv, etc.) in the front seat and want to secure them. A non-locking belt would allow the items to move forward every time you hit the brakes. With the auto-lock feature you can secure them tightly against the seat back.
And even though child seats should not be installed in the front maybe Nissan wanted to ensure the front-passenger seat belt was properly equipped to secure a child seat if the driver elected to use one there.
-njjoe |
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| GripperDon |
Only the pretensioner is added in the front. Please read closely.
Trying for a synopsis:
They lock if:
Webbing is pulled above a certain rate and is the vehicle changes speed above a certain rate.( usefull for stablising the occupant when braking etc.) The complete pullout action for setting the lock pawl makes it possible to secure not only a package but a disabled full size occupant and other similar situation all done by design and featured in many many vehicles. I like it if your are bouncing around off roading and wish to be more secure in position. |
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| Tyler_Canada |
| Ok Grip, I understand the reasoning behind it. But it does annoy some of my passengers. |
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| Kris |
quote:
Originally posted by Tyler_Canada
But it does annoy some of my passengers.
Change passengers...:2: :2: |
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| njjoe |
quote:
Originally posted by Tyler_Canada
But it does annoy some of my passengers.
TC-
You're lucky. Some of my passengers annoy me.
-njjoe |
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| mule |
| This is my second one, I won't go through that again :2: :2: :2: |
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| Tyler_Canada |
quote:
Originally posted by Kris
Change passengers...:2: :2:
Sure, except I'm practically married one of them! |
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| Kris |
quote:
Originally posted by Tyler_Canada
Sure, except I'm practically married one of them!
So you done............stop complaining...;) It will not help...:D |
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