| Tarzan_MO |
It's 2007 -
why does this thing still have a cassette?
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| zebelkhan |
| For the same reason they still sell cassett decks. Come to find out, lot's of people buy cassetts to mix their own music and play in their cars... |
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| Tarzan_MO |
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Originally posted by zebelkhan
For the same reason they still sell cassett decks. Come to find out, lot's of people buy cassetts to mix their own music and play in their cars...
You've got to be kidding.
I had no idea that they even sold cassettes any more! They certainly don't have any at my local music store.
May be they have them at Fry's - about the only place I can think of that would. |
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| elliotgb |
| So old farts like me have a place to play our James Taylor, Iron Butterfly, James Gang, Beatles (gee, remember them?), Eagles, Allman Brothers, etc. as we cruise down the road. Wow, I even remember when they still made 45's and I still have a "record player" to play them on. |
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| sobamanismo |
So are you upset that they didn't also include an 8-track player? :D
I too didn't realize that one could even buy cassettes any longer. May I propose that you guys take all the time you spend fast forwarding to the song you want to hear and place every one of those albums mentioned on (1) .mp3 CD and put it in your 6-disc changer :2:
(I honestly have trouble believing there are still folks mixing music on a tape deck in todays world of computers for everyone and >$.01 CDs) |
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| njjoe |
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Originally posted by sobamanismo
So are you upset that they didn't also include an 8-track player? :D
Hey! Don't be dissing 8-tracks. They served me well for many years, almost as good as my BETA VCR.
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| Corin |
I was certainly thankful to have the cassette player in the MO. Allowed me to use my Ipod while deciding whether or not to spend the big bucks for the full ipod integration, and worked MUCH better than the stupid FM transmitter.
FM Transmitter:
$65, crappy sound, had to keep changing stations, had to hit "play" every time I got in the car, but at least it charged the ipod while playing and paused it when the car turned off.
Tape Adapter:
$9, decent sound, but requires a cord. I left the FM transmitter also plugged in to give me the "charging" and "pausing" features. |
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| Tarzan_MO |
quote:
Originally posted by elliotgb
So old farts like me have a place to play our James Taylor, Iron Butterfly, James Gang, Beatles (gee, remember them?), Eagles, Allman Brothers, etc. as we cruise down the road. Wow, I even remember when they still made 45's and I still have a "record player" to play them on.
You can get all those on Satellite Radio!
And the digital re-recordings sound 100% better than cassettes! You can actually hear the effects that they intended! |
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| Tarzan_MO |
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Originally posted by sobamanismo
So are you upset that they didn't also include an 8-track player? :D
I too didn't realize that one could even buy cassettes any longer. May I propose that you guys take all the time you spend fast forwarding to the song you want to hear and place every one of those albums mentioned on (1) .mp3 CD and put it in your 6-disc changer :2:
(I honestly have trouble believing there are still folks mixing music on a tape deck in todays world of computers for everyone and >$.01 CDs)
But see, these people DON'T fast forward anything. They actually listen to every song they put on to their mix-tape. They never SKIP songs, no, they never do that!:2: |
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| craigster |
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Originally posted by Tarzan_MO
It's 2007 -
why does this thing still have a cassette?
:eek:
Two thoughts: Firstly, why not?!!
Secondly, so I can interface my iPod through a cassette adapter. Damn handy since there isn't an MP3 jack point. |
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| Tarzan_MO |
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Originally posted by craigster
Two thoughts: Firstly, why not?!!
Secondly, so I can interface my iPod through a cassette adapter. Damn handy since there isn't an MP3 jack point.
Um ever heard of this thing for your iPod?:
http://www.yournissanparts.com/cata...380111&detail=1
it works great. I just installed it in mine. |
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| manitoba murano |
Book tapes.
Yes, I know you can get digital versions of these too, but that is the reason the marketing folks will give you. |
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| Tarzan_MO |
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Originally posted by manitoba murano
Book tapes.
Yes, I know you can get digital versions of these too, but that is the reason the marketing folks will give you.
You can get them on the iPod too.
It's OK.
I am sure we won't see a cassette deck on the next edition of the Murano. |
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| biggun |
It makes perfect sense, if you think like a CEO of a car company!
You can not replace the radio. So, if a manufacturer decides to install a non-replaceable radio in a car - they better make sure it can play most, if not all, forms of audio media. Hence, the Murano radio with cassette, cd, sat, and recently ipod.
The average age of a car owner at the MOs price range is probably around 40 if not older. Tarzan, if you were born before the 70s, you would understand. Many of - how should I put it - "mature people" still have cassettes and listen to them frequently. Those "mature people" that listen to cassettes (my dad for instance that refuses to make the switch) and who are considering on buying a car may not select one if it does not have a cassette deck.
There it is, my intuitive insight of the mind of a car manufacturer's CEO. :D
-biggun |
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| enamurao |
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Originally posted by biggun
It makes perfect sense, if you think like a CEO of a car company!
if you were born before the 70s, you would understand. Many of - how should I put it - "mature people" still have cassettes and listen to them frequently. Those "mature people" that listen to cassettes (my dad for instance that refuses to make the switch) and who are considering on buying a car may not select one if it does not have a cassette deck.
-biggun
my 60's year old parents dont want to know anything but mp3's,blueray's,and bluetooth's,I feel sometimes they are even more into technology than I do. |
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| sobamanismo |
Interesting perspective Biggun, I still question the logic though. Are there really people that would not buy a 2007 model car simply because it didn't have an antiquated option? By that thinking those people are going to have a hard time finding a car w/o power windows (which if I remember correctly some claimed were dangerous because they might short out if you drove into a canal ;) )
I was born at the very beginning of the 70's, and refuse to consider myself "mature" :D. I also had boxes and boxes of cassette tapes that eventually got dumped somewhere in the late 90's. Today I have a couple of boxes of CD's sitting in the back of a closet that are all burned into my computer and I fear they may go the way of the dodo someday too :) |
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| biggun |
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Originally posted by sobamanismo
Interesting perspective Biggun, I still question the logic though. Are there really people that would not buy a 2007 model car simply because it didn't have an antiquated option? By that thinking those people are going to have a hard time finding a car w/o power windows (which if I remember correctly some claimed were dangerous because they might short out if you drove into a canal ;) )
I was born at the very beginning of the 70's, and refuse to consider myself "mature" :D. I also had boxes and boxes of cassette tapes that eventually got dumped somewhere in the late 90's. Today I have a couple of boxes of CD's sitting in the back of a closet that are all burned into my computer and I fear they may go the way of the dodo someday too :)
I agree with you and Tarzan, cassettes are a thing of the past as far as sound quality goes. But again, many people have extensive cassette collections and don't want to spend the money to replace it on CD. Some people even think that some songs just don't sound right at all unless played on a record player. It is just a matter of opinion.
A car manufacturer needs to think of all options and disadvantages of not having the option of a cassette. If it doesn't hurt to have it - than why not? |
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| sobamanismo |
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[i]If it doesn't hurt to have it - than why not? [/B]
Cause I'd rather have an Ipod dock right there in it's place :D |
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| Corin |
quote:
Originally posted by Tarzan_MO
Um ever heard of this thing for your iPod?:
http://www.yournissanparts.com/cata...380111&detail=1
it works great. I just installed it in mine.
Yeah, but you're then comparing a $9 product with a $210 product. I mean, come on. I upgraded to the Ipod module, and I'm happy I did it, but was it really worth 23 times the cost of the tape adapter? I'm still not sure.
That's like saying "Why buy a Honda Civic when you could have a Ferrari?" |
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| hasaanbhutta |
i think with this small feature, Nissan has targeted both generations.... people who like to listen to Cd's, MP3's and people who are still stuck with cassettes... TRUST ME, THERE ARE A LOT of those..... and Corin, you are right.... i researched everywhere for the best FM transmitter, and found none to give me a good quality sound.... the iPOD module was worth but again, spending nearly 200 to listen to ipod (which already was about 300CDN$)... i went to my garage and took out that old box of tools which stays unopened for years... took out the sony cassette adapter and DAMN I LOVE IT.... just the quality i wanted.... just roll the excessive wire under the console.... and connected the USB cable to the DC-2-USB converter and i got a system that can be charged and listened at same time in my MO... and that UNDER 10$...... one other thing i got was a Silicon skin for my ipod (lack skin for black ipod)...the reason... very simple, it provides enough friction when sitting on the gear box area that ipod wouldnt even move.... so i can control the ipod without taking my eyes off the road.....
i will post a picture sometime later ... |
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| Tarzan_MO |
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Originally posted by Corin
Yeah, but you're then comparing a $9 product with a $210 product. I mean, come on. I upgraded to the Ipod module, and I'm happy I did it, but was it really worth 23 times the cost of the tape adapter? I'm still not sure.
That's like saying "Why buy a Honda Civic when you could have a Ferrari?"
:D
LOL! Funny!
OK OK OK
I like good, digital sound. In fact, most of the music I listen to NEED this latest technology to even be able to hear all the layering and effects that are mixed in to the tracks (notice I did not say "songs")....... hahahaha
It really is worth the money. The analog sound coming from the cassette deck will not reproduce the fidleity in the digital sound - they all sound muffled, the clarity is just not there.
I know I know I know I am listening to something in a CAR, so I know I shouldn't be expecting perfect concert surround sound, but hey - it's still going to sound better than cassette!
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| craigster |
A clarification...
The sound that exits your iPod's min jack is analog - the same as the cassette interface. The advantage is that it doesn't go through the "heads" of the reader therefore I suspect would be better quality. The only way for "digital" sound to be used is if the stereo head unit itself had a direct USB interface. |
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| Tarzan_MO |
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Originally posted by craigster
A clarification...
The sound that exits your iPod's min jack is analog - the same as the cassette interface. The advantage is that it doesn't go through the "heads" of the reader therefore I suspect would be better quality. The only way for "digital" sound to be used is if the stereo head unit itself had a direct USB interface.
HUH?
Is that true? So by using the mini headphone jack, you can only hear analog sound? Then what's with all the "digital headphones" then?
Not that I'm using the headphone jack - I'm using the iPod connector directly so I can access the songs form the headunit and LCD, but -
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| craigster |
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Originally posted by Tarzan_MO
HUH?
Is that true? So by using the mini headphone jack, you can only hear analog sound? Then what's with all the "digital headphones" then?
:confused:
Digital is, by definition...digital. i.e., Numbers. Usually binary. So in order for something to actually be digital, it has to operate with a digital data stream. So called "Digital" headphones are receiving an analog signal - and they could just as easily be used on an "old fashioned" tape based walkman as an iPod, right? And these are non digital devices. If the headphones had a USB interface or connected through the iPod connector, then they would be digital, but if you use the minijack, it is analog. |
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| Tarzan_MO |
quote:
Originally posted by craigster
Digital is, by definition...digital. i.e., Numbers. Usually binary. So in order for something to actually be digital, it has to operate with a digital data stream. So called "Digital" headphones are receiving an analog signal - and they could just as easily be used on an "old fashioned" tape based walkman as an iPod, right? And these are non digital devices. If the headphones had a USB interface or connected through the iPod connector, then they would be digital, but if you use the minijack, it is analog.
AHA!
Thanks for the clarification. I've always thought that there is something lost in the iPod headphones, no matter what headphones I used.
I can't wait for HD music to be the standard. Then we'd really be able to hear how bad old music sounded back in the day. I can no longer listen to that stuff from pre-mid 90's that were recorded with analog equipment. They sound muffled. I need clarity!
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| nissanlove |
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Originally posted by craigster
Two thoughts: Firstly, why not?!!
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i've herd a story from one of my university friends the other day about a phylosophy teacher that posed a question on a final exam that simply asked WHY?
only one student in the class responded WHY NOT? and left the class 10 minutes after the start of the exam and ended up getting an A on it.
sorry for the lapse there. even 19 YO are allowed to have those once in a while... |
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| elliotgb |
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i've herd a story from one of my university friends the other day about a phylosophy teacher that posed a question on a final exam that simply asked WHY?
That one is almost as old as the philopsophy exam with the question asking who is GOD? One student simply answered "GOD IS" and aced the exam.
Not sure if there's truth to that or not. |
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| biggun |
quote:
Originally posted by
i've herd a story from one of my university friends the other day about a phylosophy teacher that posed a question on a final exam that simply asked WHY?
only one student in the class responded WHY NOT? and left the class 10 minutes after the start of the exam and ended up getting an A on it.
That one is almost as old as the philopsophy exam with the question asking who is GOD? One student simply answered "GOD IS" and aced the exam.
Not sure if there's truth to that or not.
Hey....I know...how about the exam with:
"How much wood can a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?"
I'm still trying to figure that one out. :2: |
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| njjoe |
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Originally posted by biggun
Hey....I know...how about the exam with:
"How much wood can a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?"
I'm still trying to figure that one out. :2:
biggun-
You are showing your age. Woodchucks don't chuck wood anymore. They farm it out, with most of it going offshore to China. The Chinese have a machine that uses a laser to accurately measure the wood down to a millimeter, sends the data to a quad-processor computer which then calculates the optimum cut pattern to maximize yield, then sends the instructions to the Auto-Chucker which uses high-pressure water jets to chuck the wood with virtually zero waste. The chucked wood is then loaded into a container and shipped to the woodchuck's warehouse in Memphis where it can be delivered overnight by FedEx. The wood can be custom chucked by going on to the woodchuck's website or calling an 800 number that will let you speak to a customer service rep in India.
Get with it man, times are changing.
-njjoe |
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| biggun |
quote:
Originally posted by njjoe
biggun-
You are showing your age. Woodchucks don't chuck wood anymore. They farm it out, with most of it going offshore to China. The Chinese have a machine that uses a laser to accurately measure the wood down to a millimeter, sends the data to a quad-processor computer which then calculates the optimum cut pattern to maximize yield, then sends the instructions to the Auto-Chucker which uses high-pressure water jets to chuck the wood with virtually zero waste. The chucked wood is then loaded into a container and shipped to the woodchuck's warehouse in Memphis where it can be delivered overnight by FedEx. The wood can be custom chucked by going on to the woodchuck's website or calling an 800 number that will let you speak to a customer service rep in India.
Get with it man, times are changing.
-njjoe
nj,
A+
-Biggun |
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| nissanlove |
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