| genterara |
Anybody tried acetone in gas? supposedly most fuel additives contain acetone.
there are several links around stating the benefits. Kip Kay @ metacafe |
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| njjoe |
genterara-
No, I have never tried it, but I know a few people who swear it has improved their mileage in the area of 25%. Supposedly the acetone reduces the surface tension of the gasoline which improves vaporization. Acetone is a powerful solvent, so it should only be used very sparingly, no more than a few ounces per tank of gas.
-njjoe |
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| zebelkhan |
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Originally posted by njjoe
...Supposedly the acetone reduces the surface tension of the gasoline which improves vaporization.
Don't know about that, but my understanding is that Acetone will collect the moistuer in the fuelsystem and help it mix with gas so that it could be removed. |
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| Mr3Putt |
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Originally posted by njjoe
genterara-
No, I have never tried it, but I know a few people who swear it has improved their mileage in the area of 25%. -njjoe
Yer kidding me!
25%? Dang, I may have to hit up the kids' nail polish remover!
I never heard of this before..... Google, here I come.... |
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| Gonzo |
| IMHO the less you use fuel and engine additives the better off you are. |
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| ekaxel |
| Methinks the guy makes his money on the ScanGauge! |
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| zebelkhan |
| Sounds like another "mod" is coming up..............:D |
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| biggun |
A while back, there were additives on the market that were heating up catalytic converters and causing failer.
My concern is, does the acetone generate more heat in the egine and/or at the exhaust? |
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| craigster |
| Be careful if you are playing with this stuff. Acetone is a known carcinogen!! |
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| njjoe |
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Originally posted by craigster
Be careful if you are playing with this stuff. Acetone is a known carcinogen!!
So is gasoline. Gasoline is classified as a Group 2B carcinogen.
-njjoe |
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| UncaDanno |
Don't let the neighbors get a whiff of it or see any large containers.
Acetone is one of the main ingredients used in meth labs.
or so I'm told... |
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| redhouse |
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Originally posted by ekaxel
Methinks the guy makes his money on the ScanGauge!
Is anybody using than ScanGauge I or II ? I'd be intersted to use it, since the Swiss version 2004 is missing a trip computer/MPG display!
Is the European Murano ODBII compatible? Please help! |
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| genterara |
so, no murano owner has done it.
should I be the first? |
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| Eric L. |
I guess the question is why you would want to put a substance in your gas tank which effects you are uncertain of. I GUARANTEE it won't increase your fuel economy by 25%, else it would be standard in all gasoline (imagine how much money Exxon Mobil or BP could make if they advertised their gasoline as getting 25% better fuel economy). At best, it would probably make no difference. At worst, damage your fuel system. So use at your own risk.
For the price of unproven additives, you can always get something well regarded like Chevron Techron or BG 44K. Or you could spend the money on a few more gallons of gas. |
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| ekaxel |
"(imagine how much money Exxon Mobil or BP could make if they advertised their gasoline as getting 25% better fuel economy). "
Imagine how much they would LOSE if it did! |
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| Eric L. |
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Originally posted by ekaxel
"(imagine how much money Exxon Mobil or BP could make if they advertised their gasoline as getting 25% better fuel economy). "
Imagine how much they would LOSE if it did!
:D :D :D |
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| genterara |
exactly, they would be the first ones to deny it.
The mythbusters supposedly "busted" the myth. But I believe they are biased. |
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| Eric L. |
quote:
Originally posted by genterara
exactly, they would be the first ones to deny it.
The mythbusters supposedly "busted" the myth. But I believe they are biased.
And strangers who post to the internet are not?
Honestly I love that show (Mythbusters) and usually they do try to look at all sides of an urban legend. |
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| GripperDon |
1. Has anybody personally tried it.
2. If so did it work?
3. Did it hurt any thing?
4. If nobody has. is anybody going to? |
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| Gonzo |
| Gripper you are all business when it comes to the MO. ;) |
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| Eric L. |
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Originally posted by GripperDon
:)
It might depend if Nissan builds their own hybrid system - the one in the Altima now is pretty much a Toyota design, with a Toyota CVT/electric motor coupled to a Nissan engine. Ghosn has been rather critical about turning a profit on hybrids, which might be one reason they might put a diesel in the Maxima in 2010. |
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| njjoe |
Search the 'net. There are more articles supporting the acetone theory than there are debunking it.
I am too chicken to try it, but like I said earlier, I know of two guys who swear by it.
-njjoe |
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| biggun |
I guess the first step would be to confirm if the theory is correct.
Are there any chemical engineers out there that can support the theory? |
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| Lightninrod |
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Those so called octane boosters only raise the rating by a few tenths of a point! SOOooo when they are advertising "raises octane by as much as 7 points" you're getting a whopping 0.7 increase in octane number. Many of them also contain an additive called MMT (methylcyclopentadienyl manganese tricarbonyl) which will leave a nice coating of orange-red goop all over your spark plugs & the walls of the combustion chamber. This stuff builds up faster than carbon fouling and holds heat big time, which makes the combustion chamber a lot hotter than normal & can lead to pre-ignition.
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Toluene is an excelent additive to boost octane and is readily available at many distributors. Here is a rule of thumb for octane boost:
Toulene
Mixtures with 92 Octane Premium
10%...94.2 Octane
20%...96.4 Octane
30%...98.6 Octane
Toluene is currently used in the blending of gasoline as an anti knock agent.
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Xylene (117 R+M/2 octane) & Toluene (114 R+M/2 octane) are the most effective of the commonly available 'boosters' & can usually be found at paint supply stores like Sherwin WIlliams or Duron for $25 ~ 35 per 5 gallon can. The following is the most cost effective 'ratio' for using these products:
1 gallon of booster for every 3 gallons of pump gas
SOOoo for Xylene: (117 * 3) + (93 * 9) / 12 = 99 octane final mix
And for Toluene: (114 * 3) + (93 * 9) / 12 = 98.25 octane final mix
You also need to be sure and add ~0.5 ounces of a top cylinder lube such as Marvel Mystery Oil per gallon of booster. The lubricants normally found in pump gas WILL get diluted by the xylene / toluene & the MMO will bring it back up to spec. AN added benefit of running a xylene / toluene blend is that they are excellent fuel system cleaners & over a few tanks will remove 99.9% of any varnished old gas residue in the fuel system AND carbon buildup in the combustion chamber.
Keep in mind, you'll need to get a re-tune to take advantage of the extra octane, anyone dumping it into a bone stock ride & expecting to go faster will be sorely disappointed.
Those additives have been used by F150 Lightning(and others including the super-quick Turbo Buicks) pickup owners to get even more HP/Torque out of their supercharged engines with a chip added to the PCM to take advantage of the higher octane ratings. Yes, paint thinners.
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| mgthe3 |
When I first saw this thread I looked around alllll over the internet and kept reading mainly two articles posted a billion times.
On one forum a guy was going to try it in his beater and let the forum know, but the beater died before he could test.
I haven't seen one article yet where folks from a forum tried it, and I sure won't.
Maybe if someone is going to trade something in soon they could try it for a couple of tanks before they let it go and give us a report.
Of course, if it kills the trade in before the deal, that would be a very bad thing. |
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| Lightninrod |
Thanks Don.:)
Here's more.
Note that non of that info mentions acetone...
Dan |
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| Nathan @ NBO |
SOMEONE TRY IT! :2:
I don't know if I would trust these ingredients in my motor... |
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