| augustus |
| Has anyone done a mod by changing to ignition switch to push button similar to the ones found on the Altima/Maxima? |
|
|
| njjoe |
augustus-
I do not recall reading any post about this particular mod. I like the idea, but I am not sure if it can be easily implemented.
Do you plan on being the trailblazer?
-njjoe |
|
|
| augustus |
| Depends on the $ and extent of the work involved. Will have to research..... |
|
|
| GripperDon |
| It interfaces wit the Brake and the ignition and lord knows what else. I think a remote starter would be cheaper and easier to do. |
|
|
| biggun |
| I'm wondering, if you have the intelligent key would it be fairly simple to install, since the concept is the same. |
|
|
| GripperDon |
Study two comparative schematics
Identify missing parts
Buy parts
Attach parts
Fabricate required wiring
Connect as required
test
adjust
test
use
However in my case the last thing I want to do is run the engine and not have it moving me to where I want to go as I am now a fanatic on getting high MPG.
Now lets talk about installing fog lamps, which you cannot get with the car and installing a set, even un-wired just to get rid of those ugly plugs they have there and that is something else. |
|
|
| SUPERDAVE |
quote:
Originally posted by augustus
Has anyone done a mod by changing to ignition switch to push button similar to the ones found on the Altima/Maxima?
I've done it , very simple wiring job |
|
|
| SIM |
| Dave, how did you manage the security? Do you have to put the key to ignition before pushing the button? |
|
|
| njjoe |
quote:
Originally posted by SUPERDAVE
I've done it , very simple wiring job
SD-
Where did you mount the button? Can you post pics?
-njjoe |
|
|
| SUPERDAVE |
quote:
Originally posted by SIM
Dave, how did you manage the security? Do you have to put the key to ignition before pushing the button?
I still have to use the key because of the chip and the key still has to turn the ignition on , the button just start the car . still working on a way around having to turn the car on and the chip issue |
|
|
| SUPERDAVE |
quote:
Originally posted by njjoe
SD-
Where did you mount the button? Can you post pics?
-njjoe
The botton is on the left where the dimmer is |
|
|
| SIM |
Yeah, I thought so. It makes the button more gadget than useful in this case. Only with the Intelligent Key does it become interesting.
There is a bypass module from FlashLogic though that I have installed on my MO that does exactly this when I hit the remote starter button on my remote. It is called the PK03. It emulates the chip in the key so it should be quite easy to pair it with an aftermarket alarm to disable the security when the doors are unlocked. |
|
|
| SUPERDAVE |
quote:
Originally posted by SIM
Yeah, I thought so. It makes the button more gadget than useful in this case. Only with the Intelligent Key does it become interesting.
There is a bypass module from FlashLogic though that I have installed on my MO that does exactly this when I hit the remote starter button on my remote. It is called the PK03. It emulates the chip in the key so it should be quite easy to pair it with an aftermarket alarm to disable the security when the doors are unlocked.
http://techservices.codesystems.com...uals/PKN3V2.pdf
This sound like what we need as for as the chip is concerned ,now all we need is something to bypass or mimic the turning of the key |
|
|
| SIM |
Dave, this is exactly what remote starters do. A simple relay would probably do the job.
So, the unlocking of the doors with the remote would toggle the security system off and activate a relay emulating the ignition state for the key. Then, simply pressing the button would start the MO.
It is quite simple actually since this is exactly what any aftermarket alarm (with remote start integrated) does. |
|
|
| GripperDon |
Has no key hole.
First press it lights op ACC
Hold longer or press again lights up ON
Press the brake Pedal, Press again or you have keep holding Starts
If in Park.
THe car know if the key is inside or outside of the car, to eliminate car jacking vs one touch opening from outside on the handle button when key is out side say in a pocket.
When you leave, one push kills engine if in park. After closing door one touch of handle button locks it up.
I may have it a bit rough in the explaniation but you get the idea. That why I thought that implementation to interface to all those things would be difficult. |
|
|
| SUPERDAVE |
quote:
Originally posted by SIM
Dave, this is exactly what remote starters do. A simple relay would probably do the job.
So, the unlocking of the doors with the remote would toggle the security system off and activate a relay emulating the ignition state for the key. Then, simply pressing the button would start the MO.
It is quite simple actually since this is exactly what any aftermarket alarm (with remote start integrated) does.
That is what I was telling my installer buddys , but for some reason they dont think it will work . the point they were trying to make is that the steering wheel lock will still be engaged unless the key is turned . I bet if we put our heads together we could make this work out |
|
|
| njjoe |
SuperDave-
You might want to check out a Service Manual for a 2007 Altima. I believe they have the push button ignition and are similar enough to the MO that parts may be swappable.
Good luck.
-njjoe |
|
|
| SUPERDAVE |
quote:
Originally posted by njjoe
SuperDave-
You might want to check out a Service Manual for a 2007 Altima. I believe they have the push button ignition and are similar enough to the MO that parts may be swappable.
Good luck.
-njjoe
I allready inquired about that . according to Sutherlin Nissan Service Dept they are not compatable |
|
|
| SIM |
| The steering wheel lock is certainly a problem (and the only one I can see) because it is mechanical. I would not take the chance to rely on a gizzmo to unlock the wheel and take the risk that it locks on the highway... I guess that we are stuck with the key! |
|
|
| SUPERDAVE |
quote:
Originally posted by SIM
The steering wheel lock is certainly a problem (and the only one I can see) because it is mechanical. I guess that we are stuck with the key!
Is there any safe way to disable the lock or something to mimic the key turning but electronically |
|
|
| SIM |
| I wouldn't bet on it. Unless you completely deactivate this security feature (mecanically), there is no *safe* way to engineer something around this. Unless you have suicidal tendencies... :2: |
|
|
| SUPERDAVE |
quote:
Originally posted by SIM
I wouldn't bet on it. Unless you completely deactivate this security feature (mecanically), there is no *safe* way to engineer something around this. Unless you have suicidal tendencies... :2:
Well I guess our guess is over |
|
|
|
