| Chezman29 |
This thread I figured would be good to list all the items we are unhappy with the Nissan Murano. When it is done, I think this is something we, as a group should email to Nissan to let them know these are some of the things we are unhappy with.
Especially with a vehicle in this price range.
Refinement should be the key when you pay this much.....IMHO
1)The wipers not working very well to clean the window would be a good start.
2)Then on to the door locks locking on you when you least expect it.
3)CVT cover issue
4)Lighting issues with fog lights and daytime running lights issue
5)Fill in yours.
Chez |
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| jetnbye |
6) Want trip info to remain on the display screen along with audio info. Currently remains on for a few seconds.
7) Garage door opener buttons I II III on rear view mirror should be illuminated.
8) Whatever is playing on your audio system should remain on even after key is removed from ignition and go off only when you open the door or after 10 minutes. Heck, even Chrysler minivans have this feature.
9) Wipers cannot be lifted up all the way for cleaning.
10) Compass should be placed below temperature reading on the display screen, not on rear view mirror. |
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| esemes |
11) b pillar rattle
12)mid-door sash tapp
13) door skin rattle
14) pas. seat jiggle/rattle
15) non nav issue (dont get me started)
sounds like little stuff, but with a rep. like NISS> i expected more
friday, i traded in my 2k3 MO with only 1800 miles on her...... NNA received daily phonecalls from me for one month staraight, without any resoltuions (they claimed i would be satisfied) |
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| jimmymac |
esemes,
What type of vehicle did you trade it in for? Initial impressions compared to the 03 Mo? |
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| Sw1tched |
| I saw on Freshalloy that he got an FX35 for his MO. |
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| esemes |
quote:
Originally posted by jimmymac
esemes,
What type of vehicle did you trade it in for? Initial impressions compared to the 03 Mo?
fx45
honestly, the fx is a beast, with great manners, and features (the MO taken to the next level, imo) |
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| stonemaster |
11) Make headlight mounting more secure (Headlight theft problem)*
12) Automatic headlamp control - adjustable sensitivity; smarter software so lamps are not constantly switching on/off when doing through numerous underpasses.
13) Auto-off seat heaters - Turn off when vehicle is shut down. Keeps from heating an empty passenger seat [CLARIFICATION: The switch should be a 'soft switch' so that the next time you started the vehicle, the seat heaters would be OFF until you turned them on again]
14) Auto lock doors above 10 MPH
15) Option to unlock all door with one key fob press or two (currently must press twice to unlock all)[CLARIFICATION: This can be set via the fob or the "System Setttings" menu.]
16) Correct the sudden loss of power steering issues reported in Consumer Reports and witnessed by several forum members (including me)*
17) Offer factory or dealer installed body side molding and roof top molding (to protect area between roof rails
18) Passenger side airbag off switch - For traveling with packages or a pet on that seat. Would reset to 'ON' on restarts.
19) Better means of securing rear seat belts out of the way of the auto fold-down seats (current clips do not work well)
20) More durable carpetting or liner in hatch area.
21) REAL hinges on the side compartment doors in the hatch area
22) More anchors in hatch area and on hatch door itself (for holding down hatch when carrying long loads)
23) Cargo net that can also be stretched across floor of hatch area (current net is too loose when stretched over the area)
24) Rear view camera (best) or back-up sensors (ok)
25) Adjustable times on headlamp off delay (some of us have longer or shorter walks after leaving the car in the dark)
26) Better looking lighting in instrument pods (looks too retro with that orange glow)
27) Power-adjustable steering wheel position (up/down, fore/aft) - Would allow exit system to move steering wheel up and out of the way on exit, and return it when starting vehicle. Would also link to preset buttons/fob for different drivers.
28) More (i.e., better) audio/video system options
29) Right side mirror that moves down when in Reverse (for parking convenience)
Most of these are suggestions for improvements. The items with the "*" are serious problems that Nissan MUST correct. I'm an industrial designer by trade and it's my job to notice design flaws, improvements, and ergonomics. I also realize that if all these were met, you would have an Infiniti, not a Nissan. And don't get me wrong! I still love my MO!! :D |
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| mrq |
| STONEMASTER- no.12,13,14,15,25 has been fixed on 04. |
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| ZUV18 |
I think we should differentiate between things we think are problems and things that are just our opinions (e.g. esthetics comments) As well, by unhappy do we mean its something Nissan did wrong with the Murano or something that we wish the Murano had.
Anyway,
-I dont remember an "auto-lock once moving" feature on 2004s.
-And the seat-heater does turn off once the car is off but turns back on if the car is turned on later with the heater button in "on" setting.
-I personally like the one-press unlocks driver only, two-presses unlocks all feature. But I dont remember this being different on 2003s...correct me if Im wrong.
-I would like the turn-signal stalk to be lighted. I hate trying to find the fog-lights switch in the dark and accidentally adjusting the headlights from auto to off to on etc. Had this happen yesterday and I had to use the reading lights to find out what headlight setting I was in.
-I also want the guage lighting control to be separate from the instrument lighting controls because the intrusment lights are too dim when the guages are just right. Have the instrument lights be controlled through the center screen.
-If the right mirror was to move when in reverse I would like this to be something that could be turned off. I rather move my head around during parking to get a better view. During cold winters, I wouldnt want the mirror gears/motor do be damaged when the mirror is frozen over.
-A backup sensor would be nice though given the high rear window. |
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| Eric L. |
A couple of items I think that can be improved, that no one has mentioned yet:
1) the power outlets are very inconvenient - how about putting one within reach of the driver? the center console plug requires the door to be open, thats also pretty inconvenient - and the rear power outlet does not operate with the engine off. I dunno about you, but I don't like leaving my keys in the ignition, you never know who can just get in and drive the car away, even if you are standing right there
2) The windshield wiper switch detents are too soft. I always end up hitting the single swipe function when I want to turn the wipers to off
3) A back up mirror would be a nice feature to have, like in the 4Runner - that is a very clever "typical Toyota" idea - i am not talking about the passenger mirror but rather a convex mirror on the rear window area
4) For a $30,000+ vehicle, the lack of MP3 support is atrocious. I guess I am just too young to be driving this kind of vehicle. Maybe Nissan assumes the older crowd that typically buys SUV's doesn't know what an MP3 is.
5) That darn metal CVT scoop |
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| stonemaster |
Sorry for my long list but I thought the name of the thread was "Things as consumer we are unhappy with Nissan", not "Problems we encountered". To quote the opening message by Chezman29:
"This thread I figured would be good to list all the items we are unhappy with the Nissan Murano. When it is done, I think this is something we, as a group should email to Nissan to let them know these are some of the things we are unhappy with.
Especially with a vehicle in this price range.
Refinement should be the key when you pay this much.....IMHO"
"Unhappy" includes listing problems, but also includes suggestions for improvements on items we as owners were not pleased about in the initial design of the Murano. My list contained things I, personally, was unhappy about, aesthetic or not. There is a separate forum for problems-only lists.
Also, this list is NOT about criticizing the items submitted by others, since this list overall is targetted at Nissan. If items are erroneous or have been already addressed by Nissan, that is another matter.
Members should be free to list ANY items they are unhappy about and feel Nissan should address. Sure, every idea or suggestion will have a downside. Anybody can be negative. But it is up to Nissan to decide which ones can be implemented or not. This list is NOT an opinion poll.
And thanks to MRQ for the list of things that have been addressed by Nissan (though since ZUV18 noted some were not actually changed, who is right?). I guess Nissan, on their own, thought the isssues I noted were noteworthy enough to fix. Maybe they will get to the others we mention in due time. THAT is what this list is about!! |
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| MVTCFP |
First things first: I love my MO. I haven't experienced any rattles or mechanical issues yet. I love driving the thing! That said, here are my nags.....
Only One Keyhole? C'mon, freaking Tauruses have at least 3!
No Rear Window Washer Squirter.
The "Dingablility" Of The Interior Aluminum Accents. No excuse for that.
And Maybe It's Just Mine, But This Has Got To Be The Softest Paint Ever Applied To A Car. It Seem Like I Could Scratch It With My Finger.
I Want A Holder For My Sunglasses
Thats about all I can think of, as you can see, most are minor. |
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| XOC |
| Did anyone list the battery? Shouldn't it have a maintenance-free battery? |
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| dalascby |
All of the above...plus..
30) Fogs....I want them on when "I" want them on, no just when low beams headlights are on. I want them on when just my park lights are on, I don't want them to go off when my high beams are on. Nissan is taking the "choice" away from the driver. Also, use HIDs for all of the lights (heads, parking lights and fogs).
31) Hide that ugly muffler!! When I drive by a building with very reflective glass and look over at the reflection of my MO...I HATE that big ugly muffler hanging down below like a pregnant cow's teets! |
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| Eric L. |
quote:
Originally posted by dalascby
All of the above...plus..
30) Fogs....I want them on when "I" want them on, no just when low beams headlights are on. I want them on when just my park lights are on, I don't want them to go off when my high beams are on. Nissan is taking the "choice" away from the driver. Also, use HIDs for all of the lights (heads, parking lights and fogs).
31) Hide that ugly muffler!! When I drive by a building with very reflective glass and look over at the reflection of my MO...I HATE that big ugly muffler hanging down below like a pregnant cow's teets!
If you are talking about the intermediate muffler midway under the vehicle, every VQ equipped Nissan has that. |
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| jetnbye |
Forgot to add this one:
Courtesy lights for the front passengers. Map lights should also act as courtesy lights. Why should front passengers be in the dark when getting into the vehicle. Roof dome light is too far back because of the sun roof. |
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| Eric L. |
quote:
Originally posted by MVTCFP
No Rear Window Washer Squirter.
There is. Push on the windshield wiper stalk, the opposite direction of washing the front windshield. |
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| stonemaster |
quote:
Originally posted by MVTCFP
First things first: I love my MO. I haven't experienced any rattles or mechanical issues yet. I love driving the thing! That said, here are my nags.....
Only One Keyhole? C'mon, freaking Tauruses have at least 3!
No Rear Window Washer Squirter.
The "Dingablility" Of The Interior Aluminum Accents. No excuse for that.
And Maybe It's Just Mine, But This Has Got To Be The Softest Paint Ever Applied To A Car. It Seem Like I Could Scratch It With My Finger.
I Want A Holder For My Sunglasses
Thats about all I can think of, as you can see, most are minor.
You can squirt washer fluid to your rear wiper by pushing forward on the wiper control stalk (i.e., towards the dashboard). This direction is opposite of pulling on the stalk to squirt washer fluid to your front wipers. |
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| ZUV18 |
quote:
Originally posted by stonemaster
Sorry for my long list but I thought the name of the thread was "Things as consumer we are unhappy with Nissan", not "Problems we encountered". To quote the opening message by Chezman29:
"This thread I figured would be good to list all the items we are unhappy with the Nissan Murano. When it is done, I think this is something we, as a group should email to Nissan to let them know these are some of the things we are unhappy with.
Especially with a vehicle in this price range.
Refinement should be the key when you pay this much.....IMHO"
"Unhappy" includes listing problems, but also includes suggestions for improvements on items we as owners were not pleased about in the initial design of the Murano. My list contained things I, personally, was unhappy about, aesthetic or not. There is a separate forum for problems-only lists.
Also, this list is NOT about criticizing the items submitted by others, since this list overall is targetted at Nissan. If items are erroneous or have been already addressed by Nissan, that is another matter.
Members should be free to list ANY items they are unhappy about and feel Nissan should address. Sure, every idea or suggestion will have a downside. Anybody can be negative. But it is up to Nissan to decide which ones can be implemented or not. This list is NOT an opinion poll.
And thanks to MRQ for the list of things that have been addressed by Nissan (though since ZUV18 noted some were not actually changed, who is right?). I guess Nissan, on their own, thought the isssues I noted were noteworthy enough to fix. Maybe they will get to the others we mention in due time. THAT is what this list is about!!
Im sorry if you thought I was criticizing your post. That was not my intention. I was merely stating my own opinions on suggested changes other people made. Im not saying they won't be useful to you but they just wont be useful to me or would make the vehicle worse for me.
But I disagree when you say this is not an opinion poll. If we are suggesting changes, it is based on our opinion that something could be better. My opinion might be different from other peoples opinions. For example, I could suggest the Murano should only come in hot pink, but if 99% of the people on this board disagree, that should be noted to Nissan as well. People should feel free to list any suggestions they want but they should also be prepared to receive feedback (positive or negative) about their suggestions as well.
The things I corrected from MRQs list are based on my own knowledge of our vehicle. If other 2004 owners can verify who is correct, I ask them to do so because I actually want the "autolock once moving" feature and would like to know how to activate it. |
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| milgrad |
| I have a 2004 MO and it DOES NOT have the autolocking feature...I have added a remote start that gave me the feature but it is not standard.. |
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| rebo |
| rattles and more rattles. that's about it. |
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| XOC |
| I want the memory seat/mirror control to move the interior rearview mirror as well as external mirrors. In all our old cars, the "night" tilt of the mirror for the taller person was a good "day" setting for the shorter person -- but now we have to make a real manual adjustment whenever we change drivers. |
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| mrq |
| stonemaster and zuv... sorry I posted wrong number, 2004 does not have auto-locking feature. Also it would be nice to have auto-locking, but I rather have auto-unlocking when I turn off the engine... |
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| Doombringer |
Many of the other things in this thread are more along the lines of feature requests... which aren't bad, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't report them to anyone in Nissan before reporting actual defects/problems.
Problems & Defects:
1. The Window Rattle - Driver and passenger windows, loose fit or poor run rubber, whatever the cause is... it's frustrating and cheapens the MO and the owning experience. Especially during winter, when the contraction of materials leads to even MORE rattling (in this case).
This is a definite problem spanning many MOs. I'd love to know if it has appeared on any 2004's.
2. The Satellite Radio Fiasco - We all know the story behind this one.
This is just a case of smoke and mirrors on Nissan's part, trying to trick and deceive owners. Why they have gone out of their way to not only dodge the issue, but to also flat out DENY that Sat is possible I have no bloody idea. Who's running this company? Mickey Mouse?
I also want a few new or fixed features, but these aren't priorities...
Feature Requests:
> MP3 audio support for CD player. Even Ford Escapes have this!
> Rear-view/Backup camera. Sensors would be the poor man's option.
> Lighted blinker/headlight and wiper stalks.
> Lighted Homelink buttons.
> Auto-tinting side mirrors.
> Window lock that locks all controls except for driver's own "total control" rocker switches.
> Fuel warning on the NAV display would be nice. Already have warnings here for door ajar, maintenance.
> Power outlets do not remain powered when vehicle is off? WTH? |
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| Chezman29 |
This turned out to be an awesome thread.
Sounds like a lot of these issues revolve around 1st year mistakes.
My Poniac Sunfire that we bought new in its first year. Except they had 3 recalls (safety). At least the Murano hasn't had these type of issues, (yet).
These are all issues I am sure Nissan would be happy to read so they put some of them before the design board and deside which ones are cost effective and worth it for customer satisfaction.
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| urbanias |
I would like to add :
32) there is no courtesy light under the hood,
33) all-weather floor mats should be offered in other colors besides dark grey
34) The lane change feature on the signal stalk should be stiffer or less sensitive. I end up clicking on the signal lights every time I want to change lanes
35) All of the exterior lights on this car (headlights, parking lights, fogs, turn signals, brake, and backups) should be easier to get-at and service.
36) 12 volt power outlets (or at least one) should remain energized when car is off. |
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| Eric L. |
| As far as a light under the hood, I always thought that was a bad joke regarding American cars (implies they break down often), which to my knowledge, are the only vehicles that have it. Does anyone know of a Japanese car which has a light under the hood? In the Murano, everything under the hood is covered with black plastic anyways. I doubt even on a dark night you would be able to see anything with a light. |
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| Chezman29 |
Yes, Japanese cars do have it. Just not HERE.
I just returned from living in Tokyo for the last 5 years. Their cars are TOTALLY DIFFERENTLY ENGINEERED.
They have a TON of cool shiittt that we will never get. Just part of the business.
Almost EVERY Japanese car, I can't say that, A LOT of Japanese cars have TV's in them. Driving in traffic sucks, so you might as well watch the quirky Japanese comedy/game shows. Or the news, that traffic is bad today,like it has been for the last 20 years!!! LOL
I loved my Japanese cars I drove. And driving on the other side of the cockpit with a stick isn't as hard as people think, and in fact I like it better. It seems easier to drive on the other side of the road as well.
Except the British designed the road system back in the day and fukked it all up. So their are hardly any "square" blocks, its hard as heck, or let me rephrase, nearly impossible to find a street address. Even the guys at the delivery places said sometimes they can't find an address even when they are on the phone with a customer, food in hand trying to find their house to deliver their food. It is INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| UmmelGroup |
Just responding to your post... my rear squirter works just fine (push the wiper stalk vs pull wiper stalk ... I can't remember which is front and which is back, but they're both there).
Here's my #1 annoyance (remember, I have small kids who like to roll down the rear windows when I don't want them to). The power window lock (on drivers window console) DOESN'T allow the driver to activate windows either, when locked. None of my other cars work this way.
So here's how it goes in my car... both my kids start playing around with the rear windows. I expect to be able to press the lock switch, and then (as the driver and master of the mobile universe) be able to roll them up. I'm locked out as well as my kids. I have to unlock before I can activate the windows. When I unlock, the kids are already hitting the button again.
I've almost wrecked my car, playing dueling windows! My kids think its a fun game. :) |
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| Doombringer |
If I remember right, the window squirter is...
Pull towards for front wash.
Push away for rear squirt.
And it IS a squirt back there. Kinda pathetic, as opposed to an actual spray. It just kinda dribbles out.
And yes, the window lock button should lock all window controls except for the driver's. |
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| Eric L. |
quote:
Originally posted by Doombringer
If I remember right, the window squirter is...
Pull towards for front wash.
Push away for rear squirt.
And it IS a squirt back there. Kinda pathetic, as opposed to an actual spray. It just kinda dribbles out.
And yes, the window lock button should lock all window controls except for the driver's.
Yep, the rear washer is really sad, it just kind of lets the water leak out, instead of spraying a mist like the front washers do. |
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| seaofdunes |
37) My dealer may be lying to me, but i thought when i got my 03 that there was a cover over the middle rear seatbelt (the peice on the ceiling). Now, whoever sits in the middle gets a seatbelt cut right across their neck, which i can't imagine is very safe either. If there is a cover, tell my dealer, if not, move the seatbelt so that i hits the occupant at a lower point.
38) I have twice replaced the part of the visor on the passenger side that the visor locks into. It just falls apart. |
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| Indiana_Mike |
38) If the pedals are supposed to move, why not move them all? My fiance can't get the parking brake to release when I have set it because it does not move with the rest of the pedals. (I know there are mechanical issues here, but maybe a relese handle instead?)
39) I will also mention the lack of powered 12v oulets when the MO is off. This really bugs me.
40) Would have liked a more durable 'aluminized' finish on the interior. |
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| Eric L. |
quote:
Originally posted by Indiana_Mike
38) If the pedals are supposed to move, why not move them all? My fiance can't get the parking brake to release when I have set it because it does not move with the rest of the pedals. (I know there are mechanical issues here, but maybe a relese handle instead?)
There is a "memory seat" feature which should be helpful for you and your fiance. You can save the seat settings with the numbers on the drivers door, that way both of you two can have the seat settings optimal for each driver. Good luck. |
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| Kris |
| 41) Just be reliable! |
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| Eric L. |
quote:
Originally posted by Kris
41) Just be reliable!
Other than some isolated quirks with the new CVT transmission, I think the Murano has been pretty reliable. Are there any other major problems other than minor complaints? |
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| MusicMan |
Here is a paragraph from Consumer Reports regarding the Murano's steering problems. Interestingly enough, I've had the same problem with my 92 Lexus after they replaced the steering rack.
Here is the cut and paste:
A BUG IN THE MURANO’S STEERING
We also ran into a minor safety concern with the Nissan Murano. Occasionally, in specific conditions, the steering effort suddenly and momentarily increased, making it hard to turn the steering wheel.
Some drivers may never experience this problem. It happens only when the engine is running at low rpms and the steering wheel is turned quickly. In this circumstance, it’s possible to turn the steering wheel faster than the power-steering pump can keep up with. As a result, the steering runs out of power-assist and suddenly feels stiff. This problem slightly impaired the Murano’s capabilities in our short-course avoidance maneuver, but otherwise its handling was secure and forgiving.
We had the power-steering pump and steering-system rack assembly replaced, but the problem remained. We think Nissan should fix this problem. |
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| tigger |
Seems I share many of the same problems as shown here and I'll add some:
1) Seat programming and retrieval require the car to be on and in Park. Frankly I'd like to find my ideal position while driving and save it(I understand the need to not retrieve the settings while driving) while I'm moving, not have to pull over and put it in Park. BTW, took my dealer service 2 guys and 30 minutes to figure that out after insisting I turned it off on the dash menu????) Similar issue with pedals, you can't move them while driving.
2) Mushy brake pedal. At a light, you can do the single foot stairmaster on it. Too much mush for me.
3) Sunroof stops closing after opening door and removing key. You can only do one of those two things. The sunroof has stuck open on several occasions resulting in interior cleaning due to frequent Florida showers. How about locking with the key or keyfob and holding it to close all windows/sunroof? My Jetta has it...if it can be done on the MO I can't get it to work...
4) Cargo cover. What the H*ll is this thing? 10 lbs of unstowable clutter that should be replaced with seatback mounted curtains that attach to the hatch. It would swing up out of the way when the hatch is open and can be unhooked when dropping the seats, or something, anything, better than this thing. I took it out the first month...I have the AWD option so I'll never need it to lever the MO out of a ditch with it so why bother?
5) Power outlets. You already covered this. What a pain? How inconvenient(and risky) having to leave your keys in the car to charge a cell phone or ? And running an inverter is almost impossible without leaving the car run as the voltage drop causes the units(I tested 3) low voltage alarms to go off.
6) More dash control settings. All those dang buttons and a joystick and about 5 options to set. The Envoy has about 60. Geez I should be able to email from it...
7) Rolling Wind Tunnel. Drop the rear windows at 40 MPH and torture your passengers. Nearly killed my neighbor with it. Open the sunroof(without a windscreen) and from 20-30MPH you vibrate the interior like being in the drum section in a major orchestra. None of my other cars do this?
8) Cup holders. Try using a big gulp or tall coffee mug and moving the armrest forward. Try using a skinny cup in the right side and turn right, it slides and drops into the left side usually spilling the contents on the driver. How about a rubber separator? And what's with the removable drop in? Another piece to get lost. The back seat ones get your drink kicked over or are just inconvenient to use being at floor level. How about some in the arm rest...
9) Radio reception. Horrible, even local stations are garbage on clear, sunny days. Not sure if it's that gimmicky antenna or whether they were banking on people using the satellite(yeah right) option...
10) Turn signal indicators. Buried in small tunnels, you can't see them. With the radio on 1 you still can't hear them. At least in Florida driving for 50 miles with your blinker on is considered normal...
11) Window locks. Enough said on that already...
12) Headlights. My dealer says they are not misaligned but I can see a 6 foot break in the light pattern where they are supposed to intersect. My drivers side illumination is not perpendicular to the front of the car but the passenger side is, ie. I can see more off the side of the car on the passenger side and less on the drivers side. This should not be normal. Shining them on a wall 15 feet a way, the pattern between the two lights is readily apparent, it looks like a jagged line.
13) Power loss when shifting from Park or Neutral to Drive. The CVT apparently has an issue when shifting in/out of neutral into Drive especially when under acceleration(see other posts). This can be considerably disturbing if you're maneuvering or taking off from a standstill and need critical acceleration. The car has little if any power at that point. Try driving normal speed, shift to Neutral and back to Drive, punch the accelerator. Or put the car in Neutral at a light, step on the gas and drop it into Drive.
14) Rattles everywhere. While the interior and doors look and sound solid there are annoying rattles everywhere. The dealer will not address them.
15) Dealer. Mine is abysmal...never again, ever. Had one lease with them before and they got my deposit for a ding in the door and I gave them the car back with 9000 miles under allowance. The lease manager said it was the cleanest lease he'd ever seen. Roll forward 10 years: This time they couldn't find my color, took them 3 months to get a windscreen and cargo net, and never got a call back(after two months and 3 calls) for an oil change. Finally told them that I'd leave the original oil in it until lease turn-in if they didn't get me an appointment. They fixed 2 out of 7 things I indicated saying they were 'normal'(like the headlights).
16) NMAC. Horrible. Lost paperwork for automatic debit program submitted at signing. Didn't send me a payment notice for second month(first paid at signing) admitted they had lag time between creating the account and sending out the first invoice, then got a Past Due notice before the 3rd payment was due AND they reported it to the credit bureau. Chewed 3 people on that one and got it fixed. They lost the second set or delayed it and I had to make two double payments via phone to get it cleared up. They now have it straight after 6 months. Abysmal customer service.
Final thought: very fun to drive. I like the CVT and the techology(except for the power problem), the styling and the handling. However, I broke a rule here and got a first year car, that also will never happen again, way too many issues.
tig
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| Eric L. |
| Regarding #13 above, you should never do a neutral drop, it kills the transmission....a $6000 CVT transmission thats not known for being bulletproof! |
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| i<3mymurano |
42) automatic adjustible stearing wheel, by this i mean moving towards or away from driver.. since the pedals are adjustable, it would only make sense for the steering wheel to be adjusted as well. if not you have your arms reaching out far and legs bent close and snug to the body (that's me right now :D)
43) rattles rattles rattles |
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| i<3mymurano |
and another feature i'd like in the MO..
how bout heated steering wheel? we're at 0 celsius almost every night now... |
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| tigger |
Eric L:
#13 is used to recreate/demonstrate the problem. My experience was having the shifter knocked into neutral during a turn through an intersection and finding zero power to get out of other vehicles way after shifting back into drive. A similar experience by another member when shifting from Park to Drive at a light. There's a hesitation that I don't see in any other automatic I've driven. No it's not common practice to rev the engine in Neutral and drop it into Drive and while you can expect extra wear eventually it should not 'kill' a transmission, especially one that costs '$6000'. My Buick Grand National would handle that nearly every day and it never hiccuped and there was no lag in that transmission. As for going from Neutral(Park) to Drive and then accelerating, hello, what do you do everyday when you get in it? You're supposed to excuse this behavior because you hit the gas too soon. Sorry, it begs to be looked at as with the steering issue(also lag time?) and others as illustrated here. Bulletproof? Supposedly it is. They spent considerable dollars preparing that technology(it's certainly not new) for this horsepower and then charged a pretty penny for it, it better be darn close. |
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| Eric L. |
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Originally posted by tigger
Eric L:
#13 is used to recreate/demonstrate the problem. My experience was having the shifter knocked into neutral during a turn through an intersection and finding zero power to get out of other vehicles way after shifting back into drive. A similar experience by another member when shifting from Park to Drive at a light. There's a hesitation that I don't see in any other automatic I've driven. No it's not common practice to rev the engine in Neutral and drop it into Drive and while you can expect extra wear eventually it should not 'kill' a transmission, especially one that costs '$6000'. My Buick Grand National would handle that nearly every day and it never hiccuped and there was no lag in that transmission. As for going from Neutral(Park) to Drive and then accelerating, hello, what do you do everyday when you get in it? You're supposed to excuse this behavior because you hit the gas too soon. Sorry, it begs to be looked at as with the steering issue(also lag time?) and others as illustrated here. Bulletproof? Supposedly it is. They spent considerable dollars preparing that technology(it's certainly not new) for this horsepower and then charged a pretty penny for it, it better be darn close.
I have not noticed any lag between shifting into D from P or N. I frequently shift into N while stopped at a long red light, and put on the parking brake. As the cars begin to move again, I shift back in D and off I go. I do understand your situation though, and while a slight lag might be understandable, a long lag would not be. There have been reports of the CVT behaving strangely while accelerating from a stop..for example, I read on the FA forums that sudden stopping and then accelerating (like at a bridge toll plaza) will cause the CVT to literally freewheel. That is a frightening thought, but it has not happened to me at all yet. Neutral drops will kill a transmission - the reason your Buick GN suffered no ill effects is because GM builds fantastic automatics, which I would take as being more durable than the CVT in handling abuse. |
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| urbanias |
44) Windshield washer nozzles for front are NOT ADJUSTABLE! Mine spray too low, especially at higher speeds, and don't cover upper portion of windshield.
45) Steering wheel controls for cruise and stereo should be lit.
46) That damn annoying brake squeal when using reverse!
47) Oil dipstick reading. Hard to get an accurate level unless it sits for several hours or more! |
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| timb |
Sorry, but most states have a law that prohibits the use of fog lamps when the high beams are on. I remember my 1991 Jeep failed inspection and I had to go relay the fog lamps up to the high beam switch.
-Tim
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Originally posted by dalascby
All of the above...plus..
30) Fogs....I want them on when "I" want them on, no just when low beams headlights are on. I want them on when just my park lights are on, I don't want them to go off when my high beams are on. Nissan is taking the "choice" away from the driver. Also, use HIDs for all of the lights (heads, parking lights and fogs).
31) Hide that ugly muffler!! When I drive by a building with very reflective glass and look over at the reflection of my MO...I HATE that big ugly muffler hanging down below like a pregnant cow's teets!
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| timb |
What brand/model remote start did you get? Did you install it or have it professionally installed? Does the keyfob it comes with operate the door locks? Thanks
-Tim
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Originally posted by milgrad
I have a 2004 MO and it DOES NOT have the autolocking feature...I have added a remote start that gave me the feature but it is not standard..
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| timb |
Its funny, I like this, I have a bad habit and reaching over to roll down the window, and accidently rolling the rear window down, I just keep it locked, and no more problems! :-)
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Originally posted by UmmelGroup
Just responding to your post... my rear squirter works just fine (push the wiper stalk vs pull wiper stalk ... I can't remember which is front and which is back, but they're both there).
Here's my #1 annoyance (remember, I have small kids who like to roll down the rear windows when I don't want them to). The power window lock (on drivers window console) DOESN'T allow the driver to activate windows either, when locked. None of my other cars work this way.
So here's how it goes in my car... both my kids start playing around with the rear windows. I expect to be able to press the lock switch, and then (as the driver and master of the mobile universe) be able to roll them up. I'm locked out as well as my kids. I have to unlock before I can activate the windows. When I unlock, the kids are already hitting the button again.
I've almost wrecked my car, playing dueling windows! My kids think its a fun game. :)
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| Doombringer |
1. Going from Park to Drive is usually not a problem. Something I've noticed is that if the AC is on, it puts enough load on the engine (or electrical system?) to cause a noticable sensation when starting from a stop. It doesn't happen all the time, and I attribute it to the AC compressor kicking on/off, but it still causes a lag in engine power. It seems to like happening around when the CVT engages (15 MPH).
With the AC off, acceleration from a stop is verrry nice.
And although some trannys allow for a neutral drop (or whatever), it is obvious that the CVT is a different beast and should therefore be handled differently. This is not a manual or even a standard automatic and should not be played with in such a manner. I know, someone may have habits that are hard to break, but the alternative is trashing the tranny.
2. The blinkers are not loud. I usually don't have a problem seeing the indicators (although they ARE recessed too far), but I can never hear them.
3. The headlights are supposed to be 'misaligned'. The slight drop on the passenger side is meant to not blind oncoming drivers. Anyway, you can manually adjust this with a screwdriver... there was a thread on here somewhere discussing it.
4. More buttons are always good, but I think the MO's layout is solid. I haven't had a specific NEED for another button as of yet.
5. Sunroof. The simple solution is to close the sunroof before you turn the key off. That, or just don't open the door until it is closed. My last Exploder didn't have ANY sort of grace period... once the key was off, power was off. I had to close the sunroof before I even turned off the vehicle.
6. The cupholders are a strange creature indeed. The good news is that the assembly is removeable (or so I've heard). I guess that means a replacement is in order.
7. Rattles. Some recent TSBs are trying to help with these, at least for door/window ticks/clicks/rattles. Hopefully this trend of FIXING IT will continue.
8. Radio reception. Also a TSB, but I've heard the procedure doesn't help as much as some would like. Audio fidelity with the FM/AM is muffled at best and isn't nearly as clear as CD (or SAT) audio. :(
9. Seat programming is weird. I still don't have the hang of it. I was lucky enough to program it once and so far it has stuck :P
10. Power Outlets. Worst. Design. Ever. What was Nissan thinking? Maybe they're worried about that wacko watery battery they put in the MO...
I also never thought I'd buy a first year car. And for a first year car, I haven't had any real technical issues. Just window rattling. Any other complaints were "bad" design choices from those guys at Nissan (like power outlets that turn off, or funky seat programming). Otherwise, no mechanical failures and no bits of trim falling off my MO. *crosses fingers* |
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| XOC |
| My last car also turned off power outlet (aka cigarette lighter) when engine was off -- keeps from draining battery. |
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| UncaDanno |
Depends on the make, I guess.
The S-10 Blazer I traded in had the lighter hot all the time. My Ram pickup has an always-hot lighter and always-hot outlet. The Town Ride's lighter is hot only when the ignition is on. The outlets in the Cruiser are also always-hot.
Would be nice if at least the center console outlet was always-hot. So you could charge something in the ride while it was parked. |
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| melodi |
MVTCFP--
Thought it was just me, but I actually found this sight doing a search on the net looking to see if anyone else was having problems with their paint scratching. I agree it is the softest paint I have ever seen on an automobile. I love the car, but the paint needs to be fixed.
They do have a rear window washer---push the lever forward for the rear window, pull on the lever for the windshield. |
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| Eric L. |
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Originally posted by melodi
MVTCFP--
Thought it was just me, but I actually found this sight doing a search on the net looking to see if anyone else was having problems with their paint scratching. I agree it is the softest paint I have ever seen on an automobile. I love the car, but the paint needs to be fixed.
They do have a rear window washer---push the lever forward for the rear window, pull on the lever for the windshield.
Nissan has never really been known for their resilient paints. The 4th gen Maxima had a "diamond coated finish" which meant that it was polished with diamond dust or something to make it stronger. Well, the paint scratched just as easily as any other car. In fact, I never had paint as weak as on my 97 Maxima, where even a McDonalds napkin wiping off bird droppings would scratch the paint. |
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| melodi |
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Originally posted by Eric L.
Nissan has never really been known for their resilient paints. The 4th gen Maxima had a "diamond coated finish" which meant that it was polished with diamond dust or something to make it stronger. Well, the paint scratched just as easily as any other car. In fact, I never had paint as weak as on my 97 Maxima, where even a McDonalds napkin wiping off bird droppings would scratch the paint.
Have you ever complained to your dealer about the paint? If so, have any luck? I am getting ready to take my Murano in for the first oil change and am planning to mention it. I am pretty fussy over keeping my cars looking like new--park away from other cars, keep it stored in the garage and shine it up nice after each wash. I have only had it for 2 months and every time I wash it I see a new scratch or chip and my blood pressure goes up. The hood is smooth and shiny (like paint should be) but the sides and rear are not as shiny and are kind of rough, which just makes me crazy! |
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| Eric L. |
| No you can't really complain about the paint, unless it is visibly fading or peeling (which was a problem that Ford and Honda had a few years back). The best thing you can do to keep your paint looking good is to polish and wax your car often. |
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| dmako |
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| grayling |
1) front cupholders- in a bad place, awkward to get at, and cups don't fit well.
3) back cupholders, bad spot, gets hit all the time and pops open.
4) driver door locks "on its own" every once in a while
5) Paint does scratch very easily
6) floor heating for back passengers seems to be poor
7) Have had the Murano one year now, in that year there was a stange thing happening with the acceleration, at low speeds.... you press on the gas, nothing happens, then kind of a "surge". It only happened about 3-4 times, Dealer replaced the whole transmission, feels great now.
8) We love the vehicle, fun to drive |
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| pat |
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Originally posted by MVTCFP
First things first: I love my MO. I haven't experienced any rattles or mechanical issues yet. I love driving the thing! That said, here are my nags.....
Only One Keyhole? C'mon, freaking Tauruses have at least 3!
No Rear Window Washer Squirter.
The "Dingablility" Of The Interior Aluminum Accents. No excuse for that.
And Maybe It's Just Mine, But This Has Got To Be The Softest Paint Ever Applied To A Car. It Seem Like I Could Scratch It With My Finger.
I Want A Holder For My Sunglasses
Thats about all I can think of, as you can see, most are minor.
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| stonemaster |
Well, there is a washer for the rear wiper if you can all it that. Just push forward on the wiper control stalk and hold. Presto! A dribble of washer fluid. But, maybe that's what you meant by the MO needing a [REAL] squirter.
And I was told that little elastic strap under the armrest compartment is for sunglasses. I can't use it because it doesn't stretch far enough for my glasses to fit under. Yeah, the MO does need a practical place for them. Maybe near the sunroof controls?
There are three keyholes. One on the driver's door, one on the glove box and one on armrest compartment (couldn't resist...sorry!!:2: ) |
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| pat |
now that's funny!!!!
Over-thinking on the MO design and practicality is OUTTA control. Yes, input is nice but you can derive "loads" of pleasure by simply enjoying the vehicle that it is!
Drive it!
One other thing....I don't like that the leather...blah...blah...just kidding! |
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| murano123 |
Here's my list:
1. The power mirror adjustments are not smooth. You have to really press hard to adjust the mirrors. The power mirror adjustment button is flat and not protruding which makes it difficult to adjust the mirrors compared to other cars I have driven.
2. They could have had a better Mobile entertainment system with 16:9 screen like the FX35.
3. The AWD button is an awkward location, prone to being accidentally locked.
4. The rear seat automatic fold is not as smooth as supposed to be. While the right side folds easily when the lever is pulled from the trunk, the left side seat which is lighter always gets stuck in the seat belt and stops half way and you have to manually push the seat down.
5. The Navigation POI search DOES NOT DEFAULT the city to the current city where the vehicle is in. When you are long distance driving, you don't always know what city you are driving through.
6. Navigation fonts could have been a lot more readable.
7. The door ajar light does not show which door(s) are open. |
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| cmy004 |
1. Obviously, the rattling from the windows.
2. The rear hatch lights are not automatic when a door is opened or when the hatch is opened. You must manually turn them off and on. Frequently I forget to turn them off.
Plus many that have previously been posted! |
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| Eric L. |
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Originally posted by cmy004
1. Obviously, the rattling from the windows.
2. The rear hatch lights are not automatic when a door is opened or when the hatch is opened. You must manually turn them off and on. Frequently I forget to turn them off.
Plus many that have previously been posted!
Actually the lights in the hatch lid are automatic - they turn on when I open the trunk and turn off when I close it. Maybe it has a "off-on-door" setting like the dome light. |
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| zoo_b |
Well my MO has only 500kms on it but the passenger seat doesn't rattle....it vibrates like mad....is there a fix?
Elsewhere in the car I hear rattle....mostly sound like they are in the back...c-pillar and d-pillar.....anything can be done? |
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| bob1 |
zoo b, thinking maybe you should start a new thread with this question. I don't know if many on the list access this thread for some fix-it advice. My thought's if a seat is vibrating that something on the rear wheels is out of whack, balance or ice in the rims. I learned a long time back that front wheels that are screwed up translates to s shaking steering wheel and back wheels transmit the vibrations to the seat. I still think a new thread in problems will bring some answers.
Good luck.
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| gworg |
As a Canadian living more than 180 miles north of the US border I am unhappy that the NAV system is of no use. In Alberta it is useful from Airdrie south (just north of Calgary). Useful to me means I can navigate to a named street in Edmonton and surrounding area.
This is not a Nissan only phenomenon but it still annoys me. |
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| disla |
32) Paint quality! After each winter (and my 2003 midnight-blue one survived already two of them) and a carwash I find way too many scratches all over the car body! People with silver ones, do you have similar problem?
33) Headlights AUTO position should be the LAST one, beyond manual ON position)
34) Make dusk sensor less sensitive
35) Give owner a choice to turn off the "headlights off"- delay
36) Re-design the dashboard to eliminate unnesessary "shelf" behind the steering wheel
37) Change door and dash plastics to be more durable and better looking
38) With Latte(and cabernet) interior: what is with this intruding light grey color on A-pillars and doors??
39) Climate Control: make it truly AUTOMATIC - i.e. it should turn AC on only when it's needed, thus eliminate the need for a driver to turn it off manually.
40) Windshield Washers - make them adjustable and increase the flow pressure!!! Locate them ON, not UNDER the hood - during the winter snow accumulates in the pocket preventing them from spraying! |
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| webtekie |
| Wow reading thru 5 pages of complaints/suggestions I feel that people here are sorry that they got Muranos in the first place... |
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| stonemaster |
You think this is a long list of problems? Take a look at any other vehicle forum and you'll see just as bad or worse complaints and problems. No vehicle is perfect. Murano is actually better than most (IMHO).
I love my Murano. I have had it for close to a year now and don't regret buying it. My Mo has never been back to the dealer for service (just for oil changes). I'm sure most owners have a similar experience. If the every Murano were as badly built as all these problems would imply, we would hear about it on the news.
Remember, there may be hundreds of user in this forum, but there are thousands of Muranos on the roads and not every owner takes part in this forum. In every review of the Murano I have read, it received excellent ratings (minus the steering problem in the '03 models). |
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| disla |
See, the fact us posting those suggestions doesn't mean that we are unhappy with the car. I personally think that every manufacturer could benefit from such suggestions.
Who would stop loving such a great car just because the AUTO position for the headlights is located at the wrong spot?! :)
I think my 2003 was the first Murano ever purchased in both NY and NJ (I got it in January 2003). I love driving it and the minor improvements that Nissan could easily perform would just make it unbeatable. |
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| elliotgb |
Yep, and don't forget that this is the information age with so many people able to get answers, and both useful and useless information.
When I bought my last car in 1993, A jeep GC, I didn't have access to such a wealth of info. If I had a complaint about something like a rattle or bad brakes, I couldn't just log on to a forum and see what 1,000 other owners had to say. |
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| webtekie |
| Yeah I guess you are right. People on this forum reflect just a potion of all Murano owners (portion that cares :rolleyes:). I did keep seeing posts about Murano's thin paint though. Is this really a problem compared to paint on other cars? I live in NY and integrity of the paint might be of importance during winter. Anything I can do to proctect the paint? |
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| Eric L. |
| If you want to keep the paint conditioned, wax the car frequently. If you want the car to look good, use a polish before you wax. Personally I have found most waxes to be the same, but there is a preference on this forum for Zaino (its pricey though). |
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| Gonzo |
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Originally posted by stonemaster
11) Make headlight mounting more secure (Headlight theft problem)*
12) Automatic headlamp control - adjustable sensitivity; smarter software so lamps are not constantly switching on/off when doing through numerous underpasses.
13) Auto-off seat heaters - Turn off when vehicle is shut down. Keeps from heating an empty passenger seat [CLARIFICATION: The switch should be a 'soft switch' so that the next time you started the vehicle, the seat heaters would be OFF until you turned them on again]
14) Auto lock doors above 10 MPH
15) Option to unlock all door with one key fob press or two (currently must press twice to unlock all)[CLARIFICATION: This can be set via the fob or the "System Setttings" menu.]
16) Correct the sudden loss of power steering issues reported in Consumer Reports and witnessed by several forum members (including me)*
17) Offer factory or dealer installed body side molding and roof top molding (to protect area between roof rails
18) Passenger side airbag off switch - For traveling with packages or a pet on that seat. Would reset to 'ON' on restarts.
19) Better means of securing rear seat belts out of the way of the auto fold-down seats (current clips do not work well)
20) More durable carpetting or liner in hatch area.
21) REAL hinges on the side compartment doors in the hatch area
22) More anchors in hatch area and on hatch door itself (for holding down hatch when carrying long loads)
23) Cargo net that can also be stretched across floor of hatch area (current net is too loose when stretched over the area)
24) Rear view camera (best) or back-up sensors (ok)
25) Adjustable times on headlamp off delay (some of us have longer or shorter walks after leaving the car in the dark)
26) Better looking lighting in instrument pods (looks too retro with that orange glow)
27) Power-adjustable steering wheel position (up/down, fore/aft) - Would allow exit system to move steering wheel up and out of the way on exit, and return it when starting vehicle. Would also link to preset buttons/fob for different drivers.
28) More (i.e., better) audio/video system options
29) Right side mirror that moves down when in Reverse (for parking convenience)
Most of these are suggestions for improvements. The items with the "*" are serious problems that Nissan MUST correct. I'm an industrial designer by trade and it's my job to notice design flaws, improvements, and ergonomics. I also realize that if all these were met, you would have an Infiniti, not a Nissan. And don't get me wrong! I still love my MO!! :D
#14... NO NO NO please NO... I don't like that feature and never understood it either. At least if it is there please have an option to override it. |
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| Stoker |
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Originally posted by Gonzo
#14... NO NO NO please NO... I don't like that feature and never understood it either. At least if it is there please have an option to override it.
Gonzo
The reason that I have been told as to why the doors automatically lock at 10Mph is to prevent the doors from opening during a collision. This was done for the people that still do not believe that they need to wear seatbelts to save there lives in an accident. |
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| Gonzo |
quote:
Originally posted by Stoker
Gonzo
The reason that I have been told as to why the doors automatically lock at 10Mph is to prevent the doors from opening during a collision. This was done for the people that still do not believe that they need to wear seatbelts to save there lives in an accident.
I don't think that isn't right. I'm not sure how they would prevent a door from opening in a collision unless one would think that the interior or exterior door handle would be pulled in such a way to open a door. In that very very rare case the door would stay closed. Otherwise I would prefer the door to be open in a collision (assuming I am wearing my safety belt as I always do) since it would be an egress or rescue that much easier. Hence the "request" for an option to see auto locking or not.
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| webtekie |
| I think that these sort of things where it goes 50/50 between people should be made an option. When I got my Murano I was surprised that when security system was activated, door would no lock. Both dealer and Nissan USA told me this was done after some bozos left their keys in their cara, walked away and when they would come back, realized that the keys are inside locked vehicle. Well just for those bozos make it an option where I decide how my security system works :3: ...I mean I just carry valet key on my home keys. |
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| Eric L. |
| The doors do lock when the security system is activated, well for the stock alarm anyways. In fact, you cannot arm the alarm without first locking the doors. |
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| webtekie |
| No, I am saying when you press "LOCK" on keyfob. |
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| hfelknor |
and a car no longer has paint on it, tho old terminology dies hard.
Paint is a "natural" material.
A new car (for many years now) has a "coating" that is made up of synthetic polymers.
That is one of the things that makes Zaino so different.
It ALSO is made of Synthetic Polymers.
There is not one drop of wax in it.
Take a look at www.zainobros.com for more info
I have used it exclusively for more than 10 years now.
Even tho I don't enter concours anymore, I use it for it's superior
wet look and it's superior longevity.
Just a point.
I return you now to your regularly scheduled programming.
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| jaycen29 |
| webtekie your dealer is givin you BS. The doors should lock when you activate security system via FOB. Go to another dealer. |
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| webtekie |
Oh **** I talk like I am on drugs today...scratch what I said. I mean after 1 minute had passed, alarm activated and door did not lock. Don't know what's with me today...:1pat:
P.S. I am not using drugs, just a figure of speech :rolleyes: |
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| Gonzo |
| If you lock the doors then unlock them with the FOB and do not open the doors the alarm will set again AND the doors will lock. |
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| webtekie |
| Well yeah I know that, but you can as easily press 'LOCK' on keyfob. I am talking about door locking after 1 minute in case I forget to press 'LOCK'. |
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| zebelkhan |
| Does your factory alarm activate on its own after a minute? Mine does it only as Gonzo said. But if I just park the car and leave, the alarm does not activate by itself. |
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| webtekie |
| Right, mine too. But I think that should be an option. It happened already twise where I would park the car, walk half the block not remebering wheater I activated alarm or not. |
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| Eric L. |
| The Murano has a passive locking feature where if you unlock the doors using the remote but do not open any of the doors, after a set period of time the doors will lock themselves again. This is by default disabled when you purchase the car, but can be activated at any time. |
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| webtekie |
| But it does not work when you are in the car, shot off the ignition and get out of the car, does it?:8: |
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| webtekie |
| Plus, if you have to press 'UNLOCK' and not open any doors in order for alarm to activate, it's not really because you have to do something in order to activate it. |
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| Eric L. |
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Originally posted by webtekie
But it does not work when you are in the car, shot off the ignition and get out of the car, does it?:8:
If the car automatically locks like you want it to, I'm sure many Murano owners would be locked out of their cars! ;)
I personally do not mind pressing the keyfob to lock the doors and arm the alarm. Its the same way on every other factory alarm system. |
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| webtekie |
| But I am saying how about making it an option. By default it operates as it is now, but can overriden as I said. |
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| zebelkhan |
| I had an aftermarket alarm that would activate the alarm automatically after you left the car but would not lock the door unless you used the keyfob. So if someone opened the doors the alarm would go off yet you could not be locked out. I wonder if that would have been the half way solution that would have worked for everyone. |
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| webtekie |
| I think that how it works now, but living in NY we can use all the security we can get. I mean if door is not locked and alarms activates for two people it takes no time to pop the hood and rip the wires off the siren. But if doors would be locked then they would have to spend time opening the door first... |
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| Eric L. |
| The stock alarm does not arm if the doors are not locked. The passive security feature of the Murano that does activate as soon as you remove the key is the computer controlled immobilizer which prevents the vehicle from starting without the coded key. |
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| zebelkhan |
quote:
Originally posted by webtekie
I think that how it works now, but living in NY we can use all the security we can get.
I know what you mean. All else fails, maybe a lock on the hood would be an option?????
By the way, I do not think that is how the alarm works now, at least not on my MO. Without the use of the keyfob the system will not automatically arm itself or lock the doors. The only exception is what Gonzo and Eric described in their posts. If yours works differently then I would be interested to know so that I could ask my dealer to reprogram mine. |
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| webtekie |
| Gonzo and Eric are correct in describing how alarm works. But for alarm to be truly passive, all that needs to be done is to put a timer that actives alarm after preset time. I mean if you unlock door with keyfob and do not open doors then alarm activates which means there is some kind of measure in place that activates alarm after some period of time. So it's possible for Nissan to introduce an option to arm alarm after user specified time frame -- I just don't know why they did not do it. That's all I am saying -- make it an option. |
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| zebelkhan |
| Sorry. I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that the system Will arm but will not lock. I agree since the capability exists they should have made it an option. Then again, I am sure there are bunch of drivers out there who, when it comes to cars, do not know their right arm from left and for them this could easily turn into a nightmare! Perhaps Nissan wanted to save money by not having to "teach" these people how to use the features in their cars. |
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| webtekie |
| Sounds like a good reason to me... |
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| Mikeyusa |
| I wish the back window would open without having to open the door. |
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| webtekie |
| Yeah, but then it would've been part of a Super-Duper Package :roadtrip: |
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| jaak |
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Originally posted by Mikeyusa
I wish the back window would open without having to open the door.
Yeah, I wish it had that too... Especially when it's full of groceries! |
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