| jjstads |
Hey everyone! I have a 2003 MO and I'm looking at getting new tires for my ride. I am looking at the following and wondering what everyone thinks about the tires and what I should consider getting.
Bridgestone - Dueler H/T D684II
Michelin Cross Terrain
Goodyear Eagle LS (Currently on the MO)
BF Goodrich
Yakohama YK520
If anyone has/had any of these and would like to tell me what you think i would appreciate it. Thanks! |
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| Eric L. |
| I've enjoyed my Yokohama HTS G052's in 265/60/18 very much. Better than the Goodyears in every way, I'd say. Some have found the ride to be worse though, but I admit I have not noticed. |
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| SExyMurano |
| I'm gonna be ready to replace my second set of Goodyear Eagles right around 40k, which means I'm only getting 20k out of these darn tires. I like everything about them, except for the fact that they don't last for Jack ____! I had gotten more miles out of some Z rated Pirelli tires that I had on my Maxima, no more Goodyears for me. That's why they call'em Goodyear, they only last me one "Good " year. :28: |
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| hfelknor |
Perhaps you can tell us why you think everybody else on this forum (yes that is a couple of thousand owners) get over 30,000 miles on their GYs?
I really think you need to understand this before you buy replacements.
Knowing why this works the way it does could influence your selection of the next tires.
Homer |
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| njjoe |
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Originally posted by SExyMurano
I'm gonna be ready to replace my second set of Goodyear Eagles right around 40k, which means I'm only getting 20k out of these darn tires.
SEM-
I currently have 21K on my OEM Goodyears and from the looks of them I should be able to get at least another 15 - 18K before the wear bars begin to surface. I'll be looking at close to 40,000 miles before I have to replace these puppies. That's not bad for an average, run-of-the-mill tire.
I assume it is safe to say your poor mileage is due to your aggressive driving habits, yes?
-njjoe |
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| Kris |
Homer’
Excellent point!
Jjstads
I got 30K miles from my first set. Actually I could probably get a few more miles but I elected to get new tires. At that time I did drive very aggressively and had slight misalignment. Second set lasted 30K as well. I replaced them prematurely as I got bad punctures that could not be repaired.
Right now I am on my third set of GDY Eagle LS. So far I put 24k miles on them. I am checking tire pressure religiously and rotate wheels every 5k miles. I did have alignment done just after new tire installation. A few days ago I checked the thread and given the thread wear rate they should last probably another 25k miles! Yes, I did slow down I drive less aggressively.
I would say:
1. think about how do you drive.
2. have the alignment checked!!!
You can get tires that last 100k miles but believe me you would not be happy with their performance...
PS. Just spoke with a member of my family from Tampa, FL. He put 60K miles on his original GDY LS and they are still OK! I have no idea how does he do it.... |
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| jjstads |
| Thanks for all the help everybody! I am looking at getting new shoes on it before the snow starts to fly. I just wanted to know what other out there are using and it helps to have other opinions. |
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| BikerJohn |
| jjstads; I also have been running GY's LS and am on my second set. The first set lasted me for about 40k miles (about 65,000 km). I have been very happy with the rain performance and dry handling of the LS for everyday normal driving. I have pushed them beyond and have done well also. However; if performance is an issue; I'm sure there are better tires out there. The first year of the LS let me get through the winter without any problems. However; I would highly recommend getting dedicated snows for winter driving. The winter tires have the proper rubber compond that stay grippy in colder climates. I'm using the Toyo's Open Country G-02 Plus pictured here. They are OEM sized 235/65/18. Night and Day from the GY for winter driving. |
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| zebelkhan |
| I am not an aggressive driver. I do drive fast but watch my cornering and braking. I got 67k miles out of my OEM tires and wear bars still were not showing. I could probably get another 2 or 3k out of them but that would take me to the rain season and I knew once it started to rain I would be in trouble so I replaced them. |
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| SExyMurano |
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Originally posted by njjoe
SEM-
I currently have 21K on my OEM Goodyears and from the looks of them I should be able to get at least another 15 - 18K before the wear bars begin to surface. I'll be looking at close to 40,000 miles before I have to replace these puppies. That's not bad for an average, run-of-the-mill tire.
I assume it is safe to say your poor mileage is due to your aggressive driving habits, yes?
-njjoe
I truly do not drive aggressively, rotate the tires every 7k, and keep a constant 35 psi at all times. I really don't know why thsese tires are not holding up. |
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| Mr3Putt |
I routinely drive my car like it's stolen. I got about 40,000 miles out of the Goodyears.
Back to the original topic.... I have the Michelin Cross Terrains. Love 'em. |
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| MBruce |
I need to replace my GY tires at ~ 45,000 miles on my 2004 SE Murano. My dealership has GY's for $182 each. Can someone recommend good tires that are not as expensive?
I mainly drive in the city with an occasional long road family trip.
Thanks!!
Live in hot, sunny, muggy Dallas! |
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| zebelkhan |
quote:
Originally posted by MBruce
I need to replace my GY tires at ~ 45,000 miles on my 2004 SE Murano. My dealership has GY's for $182 each. Can someone recommend good tires that are not as expensive?
I mainly drive in the city with an occasional long road family trip.
Thanks!!
Live in hot, sunny, muggy Dallas!
First, walmart sells the good years for $135 each.
Second, the only other much cheaper tire that I know of is the Kumho Solus KR21 which tirerack now sells for $80 each plus shipping. |
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| sikefla |
I'm currently on my 3rd set:
1. Stock Eagles lasted about 35k miles.
2. Yokohamas lasted about 40k miles.
3. Now I'm on Hankook Ventus AS RH07. (http://www.hankooktireusa.com/produ...ail.asp?pid=202) highly rated tire so far. Just put them on last week. So far so good.
The Yokos I went slightly oversized @265/60/18. The Hankooks I went back to stock size 235/65/18. Less rolling resistance than the Yokos, slightly improved gas mileage as long as I keep the gas pedal from hitting the floor. The Yokos could have lasted another 5-10k miles, but they were getting way too loud, and wet driving was getting a little sketchy during South Florida afternoon downpours. |
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| njjoe |
quote:
Originally posted by sikefla
I'm currently on my 3rd set:
1. Stock Eagles lasted about 35k miles.
2. Yokohamas lasted about 40k miles.
3. Now I'm on Hankook Ventus AS RH07.
Of the three, which tire do (did) you like the best?
-njjoe |
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| sikefla |
Yokos were better than the GY's IMO.. The Hankook's are also better then the GY's.. Too early to tell if they are better then the Yokohama's..
I know that the Yoko's were more of a truck-based tire, and the Hankook, more of a car-based tire. We'll see if I can get some more miles on them.. So far in the rain they've been great! Also pretty quiet at highway speeds (90+) at least compared to the GY Eagles, and the Yokohamas.
Don't know how many miles I'll get on them.. I'm approaching 70k on my MO, and have been eyeballing a G37 6MT for almost a month now... :4: |
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| Stoker |
| I just replaced my GDY LS with another set as I am finding hard to find the size for the Mo. I got 85000Km on the first set and the GDY indicates that I could have gotten another 5000Km if I pushed it. I have been very happy with the tires, but I look forward to when GDY finally makes the Assurance tire in the Mo size. |
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| dborla01 |
To repeat my old news. I put on Toyo Proxes ST's I think they were 255/60 V-rated series. Speedo did not change much and car handled like "snot on wall."
Only down side is they were wearing quickly on our rough gravel road. If handling thru the twisties is your forte' these will bring smiles. Then all you have to do is put in a stiffer suspension. :rolleyes:
Darrell. |
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| Pops |
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Originally posted by BikerJohn
jjstads; I also have been running GY's LS and am on my second set. The first set lasted me for about 40k miles (about 65,000 km). I have been very happy with the rain performance and dry handling of the LS for everyday normal driving. I have pushed them beyond and have done well also. However; if performance is an issue; I'm sure there are better tires out there. The first year of the LS let me get through the winter without any problems. However; I would highly recommend getting dedicated snows for winter driving. The winter tires have the proper rubber compond that stay grippy in colder climates. I'm using the Toyo's Open Country G-02 Plus pictured here. They are OEM sized 235/65/18. Night and Day from the GY for winter driving.
BJ, where did you buy these tires, and how much moola? |
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| BikerJohn |
| Hi Pops; I bought them at an OK Tire dealer in Mississauga. I think I paid $192 ea. installed(I think...). You can go on their website at www.oktire.com to see what other tires they have in the 235/65R18 size. |
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| HuskyFan |
| My Goodyear tires have about 20000 miles on them and the tread depth is almost 8/32". At his rate I should be able to get 50-60000 miles on them. |
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| special-k |
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Originally posted by HuskyFan
My Goodyear tires have about 20000 miles on them and the tread depth is almost 8/32". At his rate I should be able to get 50-60000 miles on them.
My GY's have decent tread left after 25K miles, but I notice that when I get my tires rotated my front tires are always way more worn on the outsides. I've had the front end aligned more times than I care to comment on, considering I paid for it each time because the local Nissan dealer could never get it right. I think the toe angle might still be off. I would say that I could get 40K out of these tires if I wanted to, but if I keep the MO that long I'll probably put new shoes on it sooner anyway. |
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| Sassafras |
| I have an '03 MO with 60K on original Goodyears and there's still life left in them with mostly highway driving. I just generally think it's probably time to replace before the winter and snow so I'm starting to "read up". This is the best place to get info since I'm sure no tire expert. If I have no frame of reference if the tires are noisy or don't handle well in rain and snow and the Goodyears have seemed OK to me with no problems, I'll probably just go with another set. It's good to know some of you think the Goodyears are OK. |
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| Eric L. |
quote:
Originally posted by Sassafras
I have an '03 MO with 60K on original Goodyears and there's still life left in them with mostly highway driving. I just generally think it's probably time to replace before the winter and snow so I'm starting to "read up". This is the best place to get info since I'm sure no tire expert. If I have no frame of reference if the tires are noisy or don't handle well in rain and snow and the Goodyears have seemed OK to me with no problems, I'll probably just go with another set. It's good to know some of you think the Goodyears are OK.
Actually performance in the snow (or lack thereof) was the main reason why I replaced my GY's before they were completely worn out. My guess is that Michelin Crossterrains and Yoko Geolandar G052's have better snow traction than the GYs. |
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| jjstads |
| Thanks for all the help everyone. My MO is my first non junker car that I have bought and I want to keep her happy so all the suggestions are a lot of help. It is wonderful to get different ideas. I think i'm going to end up getting the GY unless a good deal comes up with another brand. |
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| Bman |
| I was hoping for an easy answer, but no such luck. I'm hoping to improve Handling, not too concerned about price, do minimal snow driving. My tire-guy recommended Hankook Ventus but I see little enthusiasm here. Nissan parts-guy says Michelin CrossTerrain may improve Handling a bit but best to stick with Goodyear Eagles. I need to decide by tomorrow, am open to all suggestions. Thanks |
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| Eric L. |
| Well the Michelins will almost certainly be an improvement over the Goodyears. We just don't know enough about the Hankooks because no one here has those tires yet. |
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| Bman |
| Eric - OK, I read you, Michelins have better handling than Goodyears. My tire guy said opposite. I can buy the Michelin CrossTerrains at Costco for good price. Any reason to go elsewhere? |
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| njjoe |
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Originally posted by Eric L.
We just don't know enough about the Hankooks because no one here has those tires yet.
Not true.
Pickle2728 bought them in May and gave them high praise. Here is the link: Click Here
GripperDon mentioned they are on his daughter's car and he liked 'em. Click Here
-njjoe |
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| Eric L. |
quote:
Originally posted by njjoe
Not true.
Pickle2728 bought them in May and gave them high praise. Here is the link: Click Here
GripperDon mentioned they are on his daughter's car and he liked 'em. Click Here
-njjoe
Ok so two people have them here. Still not a large enough sample size compared to the many people who have switched to the Michelins I think. I'm sure you can't go wrong with either tire, and I stand by my assertion that almost any replacement tire is better than the Goodyears when it comes to traction. The Eagle LS's strength is its smooth quiet ride, according to Goodyear. I'll trade ride/noise comfort for better traction anyday. |
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| Zooropa |
| I just replaced the tires on my 2004 and just went with the stock Goodyear Eagle LS. They were the right price and they lasted quite a long time. I got 58,000 miles out of them and if winter wasn't around the corner I could have got another 5,000 miles. |
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| Bman |
| My tire guy told me Michelin CrossTerrain a poor choice for my Murano. But I'm seeing good reviews here. My goal is improved Dry Handling, I'm willing to pay more for it. I'm retired, so I can avoid driving in snow, don't put on many miles, so long life not an issue either (tire life, that is; I'm planning long human life). Final choice is between Michelin and replace GoodYear Eagles, and edge is to Michelin. I'm buying tomorrow, so still listening and reading. Thanks for all comments. |
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| hasaanbhutta |
quote:
Originally posted by Pops
BJ, where did you buy these tires, and how much moola?
Hey Pops.... where are u from in Sk ??? |
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| hfelknor |
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Originally posted by Bman
My tire guy told me Michelin CrossTerrain a poor choice for my Murano. But I'm seeing good reviews here. My goal is improved Dry Handling, I'm willing to pay more for it. I'm retired, so I can avoid driving in snow, don't put on many miles, so long life not an issue either (tire life, that is; I'm planning long human life). Final choice is between Michelin and replace GoodYear Eagles, and edge is to Michelin. I'm buying tomorrow, so still listening and reading. Thanks for all comments.
I think you will be very satisfied with the CTs.
I know I am and I am a gear head.
If by better performance you mean traction, then the CT is a good tire.
The best I have run across (I had them mounted for a few weeks on my Murano) was a set of Bridgestone Dueler HPs. I believe they were 265/60/18s.
I almost turned the Murano over trying to get it to break loose in a corner.
The bad news was the wider tire apparently caused too much rolling resistance, and I lost 3 MPG at 70 MPH.
Too bad as I liked the tire very much. But with that kind of penalty it meant I would be paying for those tires for another 40,000 miles! :rolleyes:
They (Bridgestones) came with a 30 day free trial so I switched them out with the stock sized (235/65/18) Cross Terrains.
These were almost the match of the Duelers and were superior to the Eagle LS.
ESPECIALLY in the rain.
Both tires were AS QUIET, IMO, as the LS.
Neither tire matched the LS at MPG,with the CTs giving up <>1MPG at 70MPH.
Both tires did better than the LS at dry traction and the CTs are just amazing in the wet.
Hope this helps.
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| Bman |
| Thank you Homer. You convinced me to go with Michelins. I'll report back my impressions. :1: |
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| hfelknor |
I really wasn't trying to convince you.
I was just trying to make sure you had as much info as possible with which to make your decision.
Hope you like the CTs as much as I do.
If you read the Cross Terrain thread, you know that I had to be "convinced" also.......... ;)
Homer |
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| HXSILVA |
| I put the Yokohama YK520 on my Murano, they look good but I drive hard enough to notice any difference from the Goodyears. I have about 7,000 miles on them and they still look like new, very little wear. They did give a smoother ride. |
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| Bman |
| I bought the Michelins (at Costco). I have not driven much with them, but so far the car seems to corner better around corners and is quieter. My original tires had 43K miles, one looked quite worn. |
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| PopsCA |
Hi Guys!!! :D
I drive an Armada but wifey drives an MO. We have 3 Muranos in the Family and now several in the neighborhood because I've ranted about what a perfect "Car" it is. I've lurked a little here before but spend most of my time as "Pops" on ClubArmada and sometimes ClubTitan.
Wifey's GoodYears are fairly worn and I'm looking to replace the OEM tires soon. I've owned quite a few cars, SUVs, and a couple trucks, been through a LOT of tires and these Stock Goodyears are flatout junk when it comes to endurance.
To answer any "How I drive" questions, I drive it like a "bat outta hell" and always will. The MO handles awesome for a crossover and the only only reason I drive it sometimes is because it "scoots" around quicker than the Mada. The Armada will toast it in a straight line but the MO is awesome at winding and turning around corners. Sort of reminds me of our previous 300zx's. We had three 300z's with the last being an '91 TT.
Anyway, I'm looking for great "Sport" Tires in the $100-$150-ish range. Something with the performance, longevity, and value of a Nitto NT450. I'm looking at widening the tread to something like a 265/60/18 or may try to push the envelope to something like a 275/55/18 or 285/50/18 depending on how they profile out. I'm not concerned about sizing feedback, just looking for some value in new tires that can hold up better to the way that I love to drive the MO.
These are what I've found so far and would appreciate any feedback/suggestions that you guys might have.
http://www.yokohamatire.com/TireIntro.asp?TireID=400
http://www.tiredeals4less.com/NEXEN...8_110_P4034.cfm
http://www.nexentireusa.com/tire_detail.asp?pid=101
http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/reifen...-112510&dsco=35
Here's my Armada if anyone is interested in checking it out.
Pops's Gallery Hall
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| ekaxel |
| I have yet to see anything negative about the Kumho Solus KR21. I recommended them to my BIL, and he thinks they ride better, quieter. With a high TWI and a great price, I don't see how you can go wrong. |
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| Bman |
| I bought Michelins recently. So far so good. I suspect improved handling and quieter vs worn original Goodyears . . . |
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| PopsCA |
Thanks guys for both of your resoponses. I've narrowed my choices down to these two in a 265/60/18 w/ these prices locally.
Falken Ziex S/TZ-01 - $130ea - http://www.falkentire.com/stz01_sizes.html
Sumitomo HTR Sport H/P - $160ea - http://www.sumitomotire.com/theline...asp?c=per&id=38
I'm leaning harder towards the Sumitomo because they have a 480 TWI (48k miles) where the Falken has 420 (42k miles). One of the guys showed me the HTR Sport H/P on his LS1 Camaro Z28 and said he has close to 50k on them and the tread was still about 3/4 still left compared next to a new tire. |
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| njjoe |
PopsCA-
The Tire Wear Index (TWI) is for comparison purposes within a manufacturer's product offering. A tire with a 200 rating supposedly will last twice as long as a tire with a rating of 100.
Your last post implied the TWI is related to actual mileage. That is just not the case. The Sumitomo's 480 TWI does not mean it is a "48,000 mile tire", it just means it's tread should last 4.8 times longer than a Sumitomo tire with a TWI of 100.
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| PopsCA |
That shows my ignorance. Thank you for clearing that up for me!!! I've always barely trusted those anyway. I really don't think one brand is going to give an honest comparison against another so your explanation makes perfect sense.
BTW: Anyone here own a Titan or Armada too??? |
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