| phoenix54 |
Hey Gang!
OK, FINALLY!! Here are all of the gory details, complete with pics, of the steps involved in adding OEM navigation to my 2003 MO which shipped from the factory with the amber (orange) display w/integrated display controller, and no factory navigation. Please excuse the multiple posts, but I don’t know how to add more than one picture to a post.
I decided to undertake this challenge after I found an eBay auction from LKQ Corporation, (http://www.lkqonline.com/ ), which included all of the components I needed to do the conversion including:
• Color Display – Part Number: 28090 CA100, Model Number: TR-LM7WB1N, Serial Number: FA3430295, Matsu****a Electric Industrial Co., Ltd.
• Display Controller Unit (DCU) – Part Number: 28330 CB600, Model #: DCU-6104G(US), Part Name: CONT ASSY-AV, Serial Number: 30700033
• Navigation Controller Unit (NCU) - Part Number: 25915 CA103, Model Number: NCU-6110G (US), Part Name: CONT ASSY-NAVI, Serial Number: 30700033
• GPS Antenna – Part Number: 25975 CA100, Model Number: AGP-3090V, Part Name: ANT ASSY-GPS, Serial Number: 322007831, Xanavi Informatics
• AC/AV Center Console assembly w/Bose Radio , cassette player, 6 Disc Changer, & AC/AV switches for navigation.
I paid $1048 for this auction, including shipping.
Here is a picture of my old amber (orange) display… the starting point: |
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| phoenix54 |
I originally had hoped adding OEM navigation would be as simple as plugging in the components I had purchased in the eBay auction. I soon found it wasn’t nearly that simple. The decision to include OEM navigation or not is made at the time the car is built. If it is not built with navigation, a different main wiring harness is used which DOES NOT include the connectors for the color display, display control, or navigation controller. There are 37 different MAIN wiring harnesses for the Murano. THIRTY-SEVEN!! Note that this is not the entire wiring harness for the car, just the MAIN harness which basically connects all of the electrical stuff in the dash and center console.
I ordered the main wiring harness for a 2003 Murano, with navigation, from Nissan of Turnersville, NJ. This harness included all of the connectors and wiring between the color display, display controller, navigation unit, etc. (M38, M42, M43, M62, M63)
Here is a picture of the harness main wiring harness as received from Nissan of Turnersville, NJ. The pink cable ties identify the connectors I need and the parts of the wiring harness I needed to isolate. I paid $1096 for the harness from Nissan of Turnersville. At the time I ordered, the parts guy said there were only like TWO of these harnesses in the entire United States!! |
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I then extracted the sub-harness from the rest of the main wiring harness and patched it into the existing main harness in my MO. (All connections soldered and taped.) Most of the signals I needed were available from the connector for the integrated monochrome display. These included: CAN-H, CAN-L, Vehicle Speed Signal, Ignition Signal, ACC Power Signal, & Illumination Signal.)
Here is picture of the extracted sub-harness: |
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| The Color Display – Part Number: 28090 CA100, Model Number: TR-LM7WB1N, Serial Number: FA3430295, Matsu****a Electric Industrial Co., Ltd.: |
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| The mounting area for the color display, with the display removed. Note the connector for the display, and the GPS antenna which mounts in the small niche above the color display: |
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| GPS Antenna – Part Number: 25975 CA100, Model Number: AGP-3090V, Part Name: ANT ASSY-GPS, Serial Number: 322007831, Xanavi Informatics |
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| The GPS antenna installed in the niche behind the color display: |
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| The color display mounted in place and functional: |
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| Display Controller Unit (DCU) – Part Number: 28330 CB600, Model #: DCU-6104G(US), Part Name: CONT ASSY-AV, Serial Number: 30700033 The display controller unit mounts behind the radio, AC/AV switch assembly. The amber (orange) display has an integrated display controller so it does not need this component. Only the color display uses it. Not the wires in front of the display controller. This is where I patched the sub-harness into the existing main harness in my Murano. Again, the signals I needed were available from the integrated display connector. |
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| The pile of connectors that plug into the radio, AC/AV switch assembly, unified meter assembly, etc. |
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| Navigation Controller Unit (NCU) - Part Number: 25915 CA103, Model Number: NCU-6110G (US), Part Name: CONT ASSY-NAVI, Serial Number: 30700033. The navigation controller mounts in the center console, forward of the shift level assembly, and above the air-conditioning plastic tubes that carry air to the back seat passengers. You basically have to pull the whole center console assembly apart to mount the navigation controller. You also have to unscrew the bolts that hold the shifter assembly in place to get the navigation controller mounted. |
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| Another picture of the navigation controller mounted in place in the center console. |
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| In this picture of the navigation controller you can see the plastic ductwork underneath it. |
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| As part of the auction I won, I also got the entire radio cluster assembly with radio, 6 CD changer, cassette, unified meter assembly. While I don’t believe the there is any difference in the radio or unifed meter assembly in a Murano with navigation, the switch markings AND THE SWITCH FUNCTIONS are different. Note this fact in this picture. If you use the switch assembly from a non-nav MO you will not be able to zoom in, out, etc. as the functions of the switches are different. |
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| The transformation is complete. With the color display and navigation one has the choice of which information to display in the bottom center of the display. The choices are either climate information, or radio information. This is a pic showing the climate information. |
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| The color display in NIGHT MODE. |
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| Close-up of display in climate display mode. |
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| Close-up display in radio display mode. |
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| phoenix54 |
I have a total of $2144 in this conversion, not counting my time to do the actual work. I was VERY LUCKY to find that eBay auction which included all of the USED components I needed to do the conversion except for the wiring harness. If one was to purchase all of the required components NEW from the dealer, the cost of the components alone would probably be five or six thousand dollars. The color display alone, without the display controller is $2300!!! This doesn’t include the wiring harness either.
The conversion works perfectly, exactly as if it shipped from the factory with OEM navigation. I considered making my own wiring harness to connect the pieces together, but couldn’t find all of the connectors I needed plus by extracting the sub-harness from the main wiring harness, critical signals like Communication Signal, Audio TX/RX, Voice Guide Signal and the RGB signals from the DCU to the color display were nicely shielded and terminated with the OEM wiring harness.
While this has been a challenging and very gratifying experience, those of you who don’t have OEM navigation, either by choice or by chance, shouldn’t be too disappointed. While the level of integration, “factory look”, and “coolness” factors are very high for the OEM option, there are, IMHO, significantly better aftermarket navigation solutions available. I also have a Garmin Nuvi 660, (http://www.gpsmagazine.com/2006/10/...view.php?page=1), and I feel it is vastly superior to the DVD-based navigations systems, including the Infiniti/Nissan offerings, in the following ways: 1.) portability (Duh!), 2.) touch screen instead of that stupid joystick, 3.) “Text-to-Speech”(TTS) voice guidance, 4.) more languages, 5.) higher resolution, 6.) more screen detail available, 7.) more intuitive, 8.) Bluetooth mobile phone interface, 9.) other features like MP3 player, etc.
Cheers!
Bob Terfruchte, Jr.
a.k.a. Phoenix54
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| ekaxel |
Great job!!
New harness was very expensive! Was there no availability of what you needed in a junkyard anywhere? |
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| Kris |
I am impressed! Great job!
I have been in the electronics/electrical field for past 35 years and would not attempt project like this. I guess the most challenging part would be to disassemble almost entire Murano! Again, impressive and thanks for sharing it with others... |
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| Lightninrod |
WOW! What a great job Bob! I see you like your interior COLD! :D
Btw, I too have a Garmin Nuvi 660 with my 'navless' SL.
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| zebelkhan |
| Great job. In my MOD days I did just about everything you have done so I feel very comfortable taking the MO apart and putting it back together but I would not dare messing with wiring harness the way you did. I am very impressed! |
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| hfelknor |
Excellent job! Congratulations!
Two things based on 1 of your statements.
1- If it didn't have Text to Speech, I wouldn't have done anything that complex. That is a LOT of work.
2- I have always wished that I had gotten NAV when I bought my old sled. I didn't know that it didn't do Text to Speech (Like my $250 Nuvi 350 does). I would have been very upset to find out that a $2000 (New Cost in 03) nav didn't have this very necessary (IMO) feature.
Again, a great job.
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| 07Murano |
Hey Phoenix57
Great Job!!!!
I wish I could do a project like this.
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| njjoe |
P57-
Way to go!!! :claphead: That is truly a remarkable accomplishment.
-njjoe |
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| Coness |
| All I can say is errrr.....WOW! I wish I had the balls to do upgrades outside of just swapping out my headlight bulbs...:D |
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| biggun |
Great job and thanks for sharing that with us.
I have one question, if one was to swap the orange screen for a color screen in an 06/07 without Nav, do you think it would still require the purchase of the main harness. I would guess that the connect would be simpler. |
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| jkster107 |
Great walk-through post! Your pictures gave me some greatly desired views of the interior of the center console.
For the moderators: Has there been any talk about adding a Walk-Through category to the forums? Several people have posted fantastic threads with pictures and descriptions of their projects and such. Unfortunately, they're scattered through the categories and somewhat hard to find. It'd be nice to collect those in one place for all to go through and see. I know it would take some legwork to start collecting the links to all those different discussions, but it could be a nice addition to the forums.
Just a thought. |
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| zebelkhan |
quote:
Originally posted by jkster107
For the moderators: Has there been any talk about adding a Walk-Through category to the forums? Several people have posted fantastic threads with pictures and descriptions of their projects and such. Unfortunately, they're scattered through the categories and somewhat hard to find. It'd be nice to collect those in one place for all to go through and see. I know it would take some legwork to start collecting the links to all those different discussions, but it could be a nice addition to the forums.
Just a thought.
There are actually "sticky" threads that basically serve the same purpose. All stickys appear ahead of other threads, making them easier to find. Speaking of which, this thread seems to be a very good candidate for that. |
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| phoenix54 |
Hey Gang!
Many thanks for your posts and kudos. Your acknowledgement of my effort is much appreciated. A few of you had questions and comments that I want to reply to.
Ekaxel - Yes, the main wiring harness was very expensive. When I won the auction for the navigation components I also got the connectors for everything except the color display and the navigation unit itself, a total of THREE connectors. I contacted LKQ corporation but the "donor" Murano had already been sent to the crusher. I tried to get the connectors from several other sources but was unsuccessful. This left me with a couple of options: 1.) install some different sockets on the color display and navigation unit for which I could get plugs. This would be a lot of work and make them non-standard., or 2.) "hard-wire" these components which would make replacement much more difficult should they fail. If I could have found the color display and navigation controller plugs I would have built my own wiring harness and saved the "grand". Getting the harness from Nissan did have the added advantage, which I mentioned in my write-up, of having nicely terminated, shielded cables for critical signals so there was no cross-talk and resulting potential distortion, noise, etc.
Lightninrod - Yep, I'm a BIG BOY and I like it COLD !! Besides, it gets damn hot down here in Texas!! :1:
Homer - Yes, it's true, the Infiniti/Nissan navigation systems do not feature Text-to-Speech (TTS). Maybe the newer ones do, but all of the DVD-based navigation systems I have seen do not feature TTS. I think TTS for navigation has only been around for a couple of years. I believe Garmin introduced it in the summer of 2005 with their Street Pilot 2720. For anybody who is not sure what we are talking about here, the DVD-based navigation systems DO feature voice guidance, such as "Turn in fifty feet." or "Right turn in 300 yards", etc., but they do not speak street names and points of interest names such as: "Turn right on Washington Blvd." or "Your are now arriving at your destination: 3462 Pantera Lane."
Biggun - You may very well be correct. Adding OEM navigation to an '06 or '07 Murano which comes standard with a color screen may be a lot easier. I don't have the schematics for an 06 or 07 so I can't say for sure. If anybody has Electrical Section AV from the Murano service manual for an 06 or 07 and can send it to me I would be happy to see what is required. I still doubt that an 06 or 07 MO that ships from the factory without OEM navigation will have a wiring harness that includes the plugs for the navigation controller.
Cheers!
Phoenix54 |
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| 07Murano |
Hey Phoenix57
How many hours do you have in doing the project
for install on OEM navigation ? I checked with my
dealer today and they could not give me number of
hours to complete this project.
Any more info you can supply would be great on the
time factor of install would be great.
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| phoenix54 |
quote:
Originally posted by 07Murano
How many hours do you have in doing the project
for install on OEM navigation ? I checked with my
dealer today and they could not give me number of
hours to complete this project.
Thanks
Hi 07Murano,
The process of cutting the sub-harness out of the main wiring harness, taking the Murano apart, installing the color screen, display controller & navigation controller, wiring the sub-harness into the existing main harness, and putting everything back together again probably took me about eight hours or so. Of course I spent many more hours in preparation figuring out what needed to connect to what, which signals I needed to "find", etc. Hopefully a dealer service technician should be more familar with the Murano wiring than I started out being.......well.....then again, maybe not!! ;)
Cheers!
Phoenix54 |
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| hawk5's mo |
| Fantastic job!! I knew that it could be done if the right person had the determination and brains to do it. Oh yes, and the money. Great job on the pics as well. |
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| phoenix54 |
| Thanks very much Hawk5!! :) |
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| hawk5's mo |
| I was curious if you or anybody else knows of a way to get the factory info to show up on an external monitor. Pac Audio has a unit that lets you display movies or additional cameras on the factory screen I just want to go the other way. You are the raining GOD of Mo wires so I thought if anybody could find a work around you could. Any help or info would be great. |
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| hawk5's mo |
| I should have added that it would be best if the wires could be set up to connect through an RGB type cable or something of the like. Thanks again. |
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| 07Murano |
Hey hawk05,
I believe that in order to make the factory screen show up on
another monitor(and I think I know where you are going with
this) you need to convert the RGB signal to composite video by
using a converter box. I researched this and came up with a
product from RAM that will do this for a price of around $485.00.
Thanks |
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| hawk5's mo |
You almost got it. I didn't explain as well as I should have. It does help to know that the factory screen is already RGB. I just need something to take the factory connector from its ribbon cable to RGB female red, yellow, and white plugs. If you can think of anything else I would appreciate it.
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| 07Murano |
Hawk5
Not quite sure what you mean?
More details please
Thanks |
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| hawk5's mo |
| I'll try. I assume that the information being displayed on the factory screen is coming from a computer behind the dash or in the engine compartment. If that is correct then the connector plugged into the back of the screen should be able to be re wired into a female RGB connector, I hope. That's all I want to do, wire RGB plugs into the stock wire harness so I can transfer the info to an external monitor. I hope that helps and thanks for trying to help. |
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| 07Murano |
Hawk5
I understand now. yes you can do that, there are RGB wires plus
sync wires also, but most monitors that I am aware of only
accept composite video, not RGB although I'm not sure about
that depending on the use of the 2nd monitor.
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| hawk5's mo |
| Can I just pull the screen and find RGB ports or will I need to create a wiring harness. If you know of where to get a patch cable or any other info that would be great. |
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| hawk5's mo |
| I just thought, does anybody have the wire diagram and color code for the LCD harness. I was thinking, can we hook up RGB cables to just the video signal wires, and leave the stock screen attached. That way there would be no functionality loss. I'm willing to give this a try if somebody can tell me what wire is what. |
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| 07Murano |
Hswk5
What I plan on doing in the near future is
hooking up another monitor that accepts
a composite video signal (ie. kenwood monitor)
hide the original monitor in the dash some place
safe and on the kenwood monitor there is a
source button so when you want to display the
factory screen you hit aux or a/v on the touch
screen display, and when you wnat to go the
navigation screen hit the physical source button
My installer said this should work
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| hawk5's mo |
| That's exactly what I'm trying to do. You hit it on the head. I own, and sell if anybody is interested, the Coolnavi 700 GPS unit. It fits in the factory screen slot and is already set up with two 3.5 mm to RCA AV jacks. As far as I know you only need the yellow RCA jack for the video, red and white are for sound, so if the factory screen is left connected then all we need to know is what wire in the factory harness is for video. Pushing AV1 on my remote will transfer the factory screen image and all the original stock controls will still operate the software, simple. Now if someone can just tell us which stupid wire is the video source we can all be in business. If you have an installer that knows please let me know if he has any clue as to what wire we need to tap. |
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| 07Murano |
Hawk5
Does the coolnav have composite video or does it only
accept RGB signal. If composite video only then this is
why you need a device to convert the RGB to composite
video otherwise it won't work.
Thanks |
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| 07Murano |
Hey Phoenix54
Since I have the 07 murano with color screen do you
think it is possible convert the RGB signal from the
oem monitor and display factory info to a 2nd monitor
with composite video? I am pretty sure I would have
to add a "RGB to composite video" unit to do this?
With your knowledge of electircal info I appriciate
your input on this
Thanks |
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| hawk5's mo |
| That's what needs to be done but there is no such device that I have been able to find. I have looked, for months, and I can't find anything. There are tons of units that convert the other way so I don't see what the big problem is with going the opposite direction. We aren't the only ones wanting this either. I have been on Honda, Toyota, Infinity, and a couple other forums that are having the same problem. I'm at the point where I'm looking into manufacturing this thing and selling it to everybody that needs one. |
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| 07Murano |
Hawk05
If you search "RGB to composite video" a company called
audio authority makes a converter Part # 1361. The
web site is www.ramelectronics.net. This product I am
sure will do the trick, but it cost is $485.00. I am thinking
of trying this but have not yet.
What does anybody think of this?
Thanks |
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| hawk5's mo |
| I see nothing on that site that will work. All of those components are for home based PC's, TV's, or stereo's. There is no mention of any compatibility with 12 volt auto systems and paying that much money for a converter is out of this world. There has to be a more cost effective way of doing this. |
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| 07Murano |
Hawk05
When I called the company I explained what I
was doing and the guarenteed that this product
would work. There is also a 30 day return if for
some reason it would not. No it is not 12 v but you
would use a converter to get it to 12v.
Thanks |
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| biggun |
phoenix54,
I hope you are still out there. I asked you this question before, but I think you misunderstood me based on your answer.
If I was to swap my 05 orange screen for a color screen from an 06/07 "without the navigation", do you think it would still require the purchase of the main harness.
I'm guessing I just need the color screen and color display controller, and maybe the AV/AC controller from 06/07. Can I use the same plug from the back of my orange screen and plug it into the display controller? If pins are in different locations, can I just which them around? Is there a seperate harness from the controller to the color screen? Again, I'm not looking to have the navigation, just the color screen from the 06/07.
Thanks with any help.
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| phoenix54 |
Hey Biggun,
The connector which plugs into the orange integrated display is not pin compatible with the color display. There are signals that are common to both connectors, but as you guessed, they are not on the same connectors. There are also signals required for the integrated (orange) display that are not required for the color display and vice-versa. All of the signals for the color display come from the display controller (DCU). The signals you need to tap into for the DCU ARE available from the integrated harness. You could make your own harness to go from the DCU to the color display, and the other connector that plugs into the DCU, but you would need the connectors and have to be careful with some of the signals that need to be shielded.
If you PM me with your email address I will send you a couple of MS Excel spreadsheets I put together which show you the signal differences between the integrated display and the color display/DCU.
Hope this answers your question!
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| phoenix54 |
Hey Biggun,
Sorry, I forgot to mention you would NOT have to change the AV/AC controller. :) You would have to change this ONLY if you were looking to add OEM NAV.
Cheers!
Phoenix54 |
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| Kris |
phoenix54
great job!
You deserve to be "sticky"....;) |
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| biggun |
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Originally posted by phoenix54
Hey Biggun,
The connector which plugs into the orange integrated display is not pin compatible with the color display. There are signals that are common to both connectors, but as you guessed, they are not on the same connectors. There are also signals required for the integrated (orange) display that are not required for the color display and vice-versa. All of the signals for the color display come from the display controller (DCU). The signals you need to tap into for the DCU ARE available from the integrated harness. You could make your own harness to go from the DCU to the color display, and the other connector that plugs into the DCU, but you would need the connectors and have to be careful with some of the signals that need to be shielded.
If you PM me with your email address I will send you a couple of MS Excel spreadsheets I put together which show you the signal differences between the integrated display and the color display/DCU.
Hope this answers your question!
Phoenix54
Thanks Phoenix, I sent you a PM with my email.
Nissan and their damn integrated harnesses! From what I understand, all that would be required (in addition to the reconfig. of some pins on the original display harness) is a 16 pin harness from the color display controller and the color display. The key item for this project to be feasable is going to be the ability to make my own harness. The problems will be, as you stated, the sheilded wires and connectors.
Thanks again,
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| phoenix54 |
Hey Biggun,
I sent the MS Excel file I promised I would send you, but it looks like it "bounced". Please double-check the email address you PM'd me.
Note that there are multiple tabs or worksheets in this file. The first one is for the integrated display. It is called an integrated display because the display controller is built into the display, unlike the color display which has a separate controller. Both the color display and integrated display use 24 pin connectors, but as I said earlier, the pin-out is different. In addition, the 24 pin connector for the integrated display (M39) doesn’t use pins 5, 15 or 17-24. They are “no connects”. The 24 pin connector for the color display (M38) doesn’t use pin 4, 5, 10. 12, 15, 16, 20, or 24. So, as you can see, the 24 pin connector (M39) for the integrated has some pins physically present in the connector that 24 pin connector for the color display (M38) doesn't have, and vice-versa.
The Display Control Unit (DCU) has two connectors, a 24 pin connector, (the one that goes to the color display), and a 32 pin connector.
The net-net of all this is that if you went the route of building your own harness you really need the three connectors, (one for color display and two for the DCU), to really be able to pull this off. Your best shot at using the existing 24 pin connector going to the integrated display would be to use as the 24 pin connector that plugs into the DCU rather than the color display.
Hope this helps, please let me know if you have any more questions, I’m happy to help! :2:
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| biggun |
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Originally posted by phoenix54
Your best shot at using the existing 24 pin connector going to the integrated display would be to use as the 24 pin connector that plugs into the DCU rather than the color display.
Phoenix54
That is exactly what I was thinking. So, I would need just a harness with the two connectors - from the DCU to the color display. |
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| phoenix54 |
You got it Biggun!! Good luck, and if you build your own harness don't forget to use shielded cable for signals susceptible to crosstalk & "noise".
Phoenix54 |
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| Scorpious SPKC |
| Is there anything else I will need inorder to replacing 05 orange screen and head unit with 06 color screen and head unit? got one off ebay :) |
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| phoenix54 |
Scorpious,
See my replies to Biggun on the previous page regarding what you need to do to put a color screen in a MO with the orange (integrated) display.
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| biggun |
| What did you get off of ebay? I have seen auctions that have the radio and screen, but not necessarily the color controller. If not, you will need to purchase that as well for it to work. |
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| Scorpious SPKC |
Biggun:
this is what i got off ebay. Hope I didn't waste money.
You are bidding on a 2006 Nissan Murano CD Radio with control display, a/c control heater control, trip display, and fuel display. The info display screen is included with this auction with pigtail. This unit is complete with a tan colored bezel. Please see all attached photos for all included items.
thanks phoenix54 for you help |
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| Scorpious SPKC |
here is a pic of the head unit and display
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| biggun |
quote:
Originally posted by Scorpious SPKC
here is a pic of the head unit and display
:)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it does not appear that the display control unit (DCU) was included. It should look something like this (pic as provided by Phoenix54):
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| phoenix54 |
Hey Scorpious,
You also need the Display Control Unit or DCU as the color display does NOT have an integrated display controller like the orange display does.
It mounts below the display and looks like this.
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| Scorpious SPKC |
phoenix54
found parts at the same ebay location as you www.lkqonline.com
i attached a pic of the back of the unit they sold
can you buy DCU from nissan or somewhere else. sorry to beat a dead horse i'm under the weather an my brain isn't working very well. HAHAHA!!!
anyway thanks for all your advice your conversion lookes great. |
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| phoenix54 |
Hey Scorpious,
Yes, you can buy the DCU from Nissan but it is going to be pretty pricey. I'm not sure how much exactly. Did you check with LKQ Online?? Unless they sold the DCU to somebody else, the car from which they took the color display and radio assembly should still have the DCU. Check with them QUICK though in case they send the rest of the car to the CRUSHER!!
Member 07Muano may have a DCU for sale here in a couple of weeks as he is installing OEM navigation in his 07 MO same as I did to my 03, and had to get a different DCU to accomodate the Navigation Control Unit. You might check with him.
Good Luck! :)
Phoenix54 |
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| vicjalan |
Here I thought the only hard part was actually finding all the necessary parts and the price :( . Kudos to you phoenix :) great job!.
Now... hawk5
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That's exactly what I'm trying to do. You hit it on the head. I own, and sell if anybody is interested, the Coolnavi 700 GPS unit. It fits in the factory screen slot and is already set up with two 3.5 mm to RCA AV jacks. As far as I know you only need the yellow RCA jack for the video, red and white are for sound, so if the factory screen is left connected then all we need to know is what wire in the factory harness is for video. Pushing AV1 on my remote will transfer the factory screen image and all the original stock controls will still operate the software, simple. Now if someone can just tell us which stupid wire is the video source we can all be in business. If you have an installer that knows please let me know if he has any clue as to what wire we need to tap.
This sounds like something I would be interested in, did you ever manage to get this done?? |
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| phoenix54 |
| Yes, read the post from the beginning. |
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| vicjalan |
| the question was directed rowards Hawk5 :) |
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| xman21 |
| you did a great job on the upgrade. kudos to your patience. my question to you is how difficult would it be to just swap my 2004 chronograph screen for the 2006 color screen. is it plug and play or does it require additional wires? |
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| phoenix54 |
Thanks! :) No, it is far from Plug 'N Play. The orange screen has an integrated display controller, the color display has a SEPARATE display controller or "DCU". The plug that plugs into the integrated controller is different too. In short you would need to do everything I did with the exception of adding the navigation controller and antenna. Not a trivial upgrade by any stretch of the imagination.
Hope that helps, though I am sure it is not the answer you wanted to hear!
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| FWSalsera |
Did you get to keep your maintenance screen as well? Forgive me if I missed that; my eyes are shot from searching all over the internet to see if it's actually possible to replace the orange screen with nav/dvd in my '05.
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| phoenix54 |
Yes, the display functions EXACTLY as it would have if it left the factory as a MO with color display and OEM navigation. All functions work including maintenance reminders, heating/AC display, radio display, outside temperature, etc.
Not an easy upgrade, but definitely doable.
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| FWSalsera |
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Originally posted by phoenix54
Yes, the display functions EXACTLY as it would have if it left the factory as a MO with color display and OEM navigation. All functions work including maintenance reminders, heating/AC display, radio display, outside temperature, etc.
Not an easy upgrade, but definitely doable.
Phoenix54
Here's what I'm working with:
I had a huuuge issue with the dealership - one hour before I was supposed to pick up my car with nav it got sold right out from underneath me. After three days of fruitless searching for another one like it (and a little crying on my part) they made the situation right and got me another one (without nav) and are giving me a couple thousand dollars credit at a custom car audio, etc. shop for aftermarket work. It's a really great shop so I'm hoping they have your knowledge but last night we went to Car Toys (just to peruse) and they said it was impossible.
Would you mind if I print your instructions and take it to where I'm getting the work done? Or is that against the rules??? :confused: And how long will that kind of work take? I just got it and don't want to be without her for too long! Thanks again for your help; you've been an incredible resource!!! |
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| phoenix54 |
I do not mind AT ALL if you print out my instructions!! That is the intent of the posting, to help other folks out!
It is NOT impossible,it just requires rounding up the OEM parts, finding or making a harness, and patching that harness into the existing wiring harness. Most of the signals you need are in the harness that plugs into the integrated monochrome display.
If you send me your email address I will send you some MS Excel spreadsheets I did to help you understand how the various components are wired together.
Again, it is NOT impossible. :2: I have proven that to be a fact!
Cheers!
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| Getty17331 |
Could you also send me any info you have on the swap. I just bought an '04 Murano two weeks ago and have already started to look for the parts. Looks like a harder swap than I originally thought. Sounds like a fun challenge! Did you cut the side of your center console for the DVD disc or buy a new one? Also do you have a pic of all the plug ends used in the swap?
Rob
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