| wrench |
I've been happily running Yokohama Geolanders for about 40,000 miles. I have never rotated the tires. The fronts are pretty worn down, and definitely need to be replaced. The rear tires look to me like they have considerable life, due to the front wheel drive bias of this vehicle.
I recall being told that with ABS and othe wheel speed based controls it is important to replace all 4 tires. Is that a myth? Seems to me that two new front tires can only be way better than what I am driving now... |
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| Gonzo |
| If the rears have a good amount of treat I would just replace the fronts.... and then tell myself... rotate rotate rotate. |
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| zebelkhan |
| If the rear tires have more than 1/2 left, I think you should be fine with only two tires. So get two new tires, put the new ones in the back and move the old ones to the front. If you don't rotate, soon the front ones will need to be replaced. Then get two more and you will have 4 almost new tires then...:D |
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| njjoe |
wrench-
If two tires had dramatically different diameters then you could experience problems with an AWD system, but in your particular case it will be fine to replace the worn pair.
-njjoe |
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| Kris |
| You should be OK replacing front only. And as others said - rotate, rotate, rotate. Also make sure the new tires are same type, brand etc. |
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| wrench |
Thanks guys--the consensus is two new tires, and rotate. Seems to me that the new tires should go to the front, where they do the most work--especially as i enter into a New England Winter. Then rotate them to the back after the winter to even the wear. OK to rotate every 6 mos./7500 mi?
But one fellow suggests putting the new ones directly on the rear... |
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| njjoe |
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Originally posted by wrench
Seems to me that the new tires should go to the front, where they do the most work--especially as i enter into a New England Winter.
Yeah, that makes sense and is what I would have suggested, that is until I read a very convincing argument that says otherwise. Although I would personally put the better pair on the front, that is not the right thing to do. The rear axle needs the best rubber to maintain direction stability during hard braking and cornering.
-njjoe |
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| Stoker |
Wrench
I agree with all the above. The place that you bought your tires probably will rotate your tires for free, I know that GDY does it all the time. You should set up your maintenance program on the Mo to remind you that it is time and then let the techs do there job |
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| wrench |
That all makes sense to me--thanks. From poking around the forum, it also seems advisable to get the Force Balancing done in addition to the dynamic balancing, and that I should do this for all 4 wheels, especially the older ones which will be rotated to the front.
I have had the shimmy shimmy coco bop happening since I put the Geolanders on. |
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| Kris |
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Originally posted by wrench
Seems to me that the new tires should go to the front, where they do the most work--especially as i enter into a New England Winter.
Wrong! The new tires should go to the rear! |
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| Tyler_Canada |
| I would also like to chime in that I would rotate them once every 3 months, not every 6. If you always have the same tires on the front during the winter, they will not wear as much (due to reduced traction) as the tires that are on the front during the summer. |
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| Gonzo |
| Two questions, why should the new tires go in the rear... and why are you roting based on time, I rotate stickly on milleage, every 10K miles. |
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| hfelknor |
I wouldn't rotate them at all.
If you put the new ones on the rear and rotate them to the front after a very short time/low mileage.........you might as well put the new tires on the front since that is what you would be doing anyway.
I would disregard Tire Racks warnings and put the new tires on the front and not rotate until the fronts equal the rears. Then I would rotate every 5K or so.
If I had to deal with snow I would want the best tread on the driving wheels.
But, that's just me.
(Actually "me" would buy 4 new tires)
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| BikerJohn |
Is your MO AWD or FWD?
I would also want my new tires on the front for steering/braking control and the less likelyhood of having them blow if the old ones were up front. Espcially for winter since they will be your primary "drive" wheels and braking wheels. You can rotate them to the rear once they wear in a little after winter and then perhaps replace the two old ones before next winter..... |
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| njjoe |
This very same topic was discussed at length a year or two ago. While the obvious choice (to me) would be to install the new set of tires on the front wheels, the tire experts quoted in the thread said otherwise. The tire companies and on-line distributors all state that the best tires should be mounted on the rear to maintain directional stability when you need it most (hard braking and cornering). At first I was skeptical of the suggestion, but after listening to the arguments I was convinced they were right.
Putting the new tires on the front may be a short-sighted solution. Yes, it will give you the best traction as you try to accelerate on wet or snowy roads, but when you need maximum control during a panic maneuver it is best to have the proper set-up.
The ideal solution is to replace all 4 tires. I know that is a costly proposition, but it is also the best one.
-njjoe |
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