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post #16 of 141 Old 11-26-2004, 09:56 PM
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Thanks so much Kris for your objective opinion. I had made several calls in the past couple of days trying to locate a set of these Yoko's in Canada. No stock whatsoever. I am back to the drawing board, and either need some amazing all-seasons or full out snows really soon. Anyone else who has opinions, good and bad, we would all like to hear them.

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Kris,
Did you go to the Tire rack web site and review them there yet?

I think Tire Rack's surveys CAN be accurate but not until you have a LOT of miles reported, more than Homer's "acne faced teenager" kids can report.
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Great Idea save other from the same fate. It can be your good deed for the day! GRIP

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I will go and do it.

As to the accuracy of the Tire Rack surveys - I lost trust in them. They simply are too subjective.

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It is up to you but given my experience I would not trust the Geolandars “snow traction” ratings. I simply do not believe that they scored that high. Before driving in tropics and now in Atlanta I used to drive in snowy condition as well. And I understand you needs. I was in Stoney Creek last January and man, -20C and 45 cm snow! Absolutely terrible. How can you survive it. Anyway, is the cost is not a constrain, I would rather have two sets of tires and rims – one for winter and one for summer.

PS. If you really want I can give you my Yokos. On the second thought no, I would not do it to a fellow MO owner.




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Thanks again Kris, I have decided to buy another set of rims and go with dedicated summer and winters. I travel all over Ontario and put on about 50K per year, and cannot afford to slip and slide. The Goodyears were not too bad last winter, but only within city boundaries. Once you hit the highways, especially northern Ontario, they can get pretty scary to ride on. My current thoughts are contained in the snow tire threads, I will decide on some new performance summer tires next spring.

P.S. Thanks for retracting the offer to pass on your Yoko's


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Kris - I'm surprised your opinion of the Geolanders has turned so negative. I have driven 25,000 + kms on 265's and think the're an excellent tire. Snow traction is way better than the LS's, summer handling much better as well. I don't find them any noiser than the stock tire and the ride , I find , is comparable. Being larger, lower profile, and a SUV/light truck tire, you would expect a firmer ride. Maybe after a couple of hundred miles, the new tires will "break in" and give you a softer ride?
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senza,

I am happy for you. I probably have expected something more. When I compared the ratings of GDY and Yokos I thought the Yokos would be really nice tire. I drive FX with Bridgestone Potenza 265/60 - 18, same size as Yokos. The FX has stiffer suspension and it feels. However, the tires take care of noise and neutralize road harshness. So the tire size has nothing to do with it. As I said before for some it may be OK, I however am looking for nice, comfortable ride. And Yokos do not provide it. I will wait with final opinion a thousand miles or so but it is unlikely that I will change it significantly.

Just got back from a mall. I was very surprised as I could spin (I mean spin not just chirp) the Yokos on a dry bitumen when starting at a traffic lights. Dry traction - a question mark right now for me.




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A little late now but I went to Goodyear website and here is what I found (See the photo). My mistake I relied on Tire Rack ratings and ignored manufacturer. BIG MISTAKE!!!! My wife used to drive RS-A, I had LS on the Murano. I must admitt Goodyear ratings are exactly what I feel........weird, I bashed poor GDY so much............sorry, I was wrong.......



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My Jetta came with the Eagle LS and I thought they were good tires when they were new, however after about 5K miles they became much noisier, less responsive and wet/winter weather traction was horrible. I switched to Bridgestome Potenzas ( I think re90s...) and from day one they handled much better than the goodyears in all categories, and were very quiet especially on the highway. After about 10K they lost a little bit of their original grip and were a little bit noisier but were still much quieter then the Goodyears ever were. There's a reason the goodyears are so inexpensive compared to others...IMO

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Thanks for the review........I was just about to order these tires........now I am not so sure

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My Jetta came with the Eagle LS and I thought they were good tires when they were new, however after about 5K miles they became much noisier, less responsive and wet/winter weather traction was horrible. I switched to Bridgestome Potenzas ( I think re90s...) and from day one they handled much better than the goodyears in all categories, and were very quiet especially on the highway. After about 10K they lost a little bit of their original grip and were a little bit noisier but were still much quieter then the Goodyears ever were. There's a reason the goodyears are so inexpensive compared to others...IMO
Thanks for the comments. I did not say the GDY were great tires, I said I prefered them over Yokohama Geolandars.

I drive FX with Bridgestone Potenza RE 092. Put 13k miles. So far so good. Nice quiet tire, well handling. I hope to get at least 30k out of this tire. Interestingly enough Tire Rack ratings for this tire are horrible. Even worse that GDY. Go figure....

Anyway, if I was to do it again I would go either with OEM or Bridgestone…….Lessons learned……




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RE 92's are stock tire on WRX....not STi........they are the first mod by most of the Subie folks...(including myself) Horrendous reviews

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RE 92's are stock tire on WRX....not STi........they are the first mod by most of the Subie folks...(including myself) Horrendous reviews
WRX is a sports car and as such require appropriate tire.......no doubts.......




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04 FX35, AWD, Touring loaded, Garmin Nuvi 3590LMT, Fumoto oil valve
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WRX is not a sports car, it's a econo box with a huge hairdryer bolted on .

Any way some sort of poll can be engineered to keep track of user opinions of various aftermarket tires? I think we've got a good 4-5 different types on people's Mos at this point, and the number of people needing to worry about replacements is going to skyrocket in the coming year.

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You are right, we need a good tires poll or something similar. I will not need new tires for some time now but there must be a bunch of people who are going to do it very shortly.

Any suggestions on the format?




had: 03 MO SL, Gold, 2WD, Premium, leather, sunroof, Mobil 1, B-Quiet, Garmin Nuvi 250W, Fumoto oil valve, HIR's in fogs
08 CTS 304 HP Direct Injection Engine. Fully loaded with every option except AWD
04 FX35, AWD, Touring loaded, Garmin Nuvi 3590LMT, Fumoto oil valve
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