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post #16 of 60 Old 12-12-2005, 03:57 PM
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Are there many gas mileage issues with larger yokos?
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Are there many gas mileage issues with larger yokos?
I have not noticed any difference. Its still lousy in town (15-16mpg) and a little below EPA numbers on the highway (~21mpg at 70mph). Granted, I've only driven about 500 miles on the new tires.




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I can't remember where I read it, but there was a claim that these Yokos could cure the common cold, or was it the Michelins????

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I can't remember where I read it, but there was a claim that these Yokos could cure the common cold, or was it the Michelins????
Joke all you want, but I stand by my review of these tires. If you prefer the OEM tires, then fine, but no use in posting sarcastic comments in a thread where people are trying to post information to help others.

The Michelins appear also to be good tires for the Murano.




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Really just joking. No attempt to knock your choice at all.

IMHO, a truck tire is heavier. Additional unsprung weight has an adverse effect on handling, wear, amd ride, in addition to possible suspension wear. I stick by my original comment that you have to compare apples and apples - new Yokos (or whatever) against new GY, not the worn out, hardened ones you became unhappy with.

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Really just joking. No attempt to knock your choice at all.

IMHO, a truck tire is heavier. Additional unsprung weight has an adverse effect on handling, wear, amd ride, in addition to possible suspension wear. I stick by my original comment that you have to compare apples and apples - new Yokos (or whatever) against new GY, not the worn out, hardened ones you became unhappy with.
Yeah originally I was concerned after reading Kris' review about the trucklike qualities of the Yokohamas, but I figured I am used to a hard ride of the SE so I probably would not mind.

It turns out I do not notice any difference between the ride or quietness between the Goodyears or Yokos. My comments about both tires refer to the tires when they were new (well as best as I recall for the GYs), and my Goodyears were worn down to about 25% after 2.5 years worth of driving (only 26,000 miles) so they were not entirely useless when I replaced them.

I'm sure more choices for Murano tires will come out as time goes on. In particular, the Goodyear Fortera in 245/60/18 (which you may have pointed out) seems to be an alternative to the similar Michelin CTs. I expect both those tires though, to be more trucklike than the Yokos.




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18 months or so before I bought the MO, I had put GY Forteras on my 2000 Durango.......and never felt secure with them. Hard braking on a dry surface could produce unpredicatable results and hard braking on wet surfaces would regularly produce front wheel lockup. The Durango only had ABS on the rear wheels, which to my mind is about as useless as a you-know-what on a bull!!

Anyway in the winter before buying the MO I managed to slide ever so gently from a snowy/icy road in my neighborhood (imagine the embarrassment) into a very shallow ditch. However the Forteras with FWD engaged could not get me out. Along comes the tow truck and hitches me up to pull me straight out. But to the tow truck operator's surprise the Durango came out sort of crab-wise, which immediately produced a negative comment on the ability of the tires from the operator.

They did not have that many miles on them, but since that comment confirmed my thoughts on the Forteras, I bought a new set of GY LSs some 4 months later, with a MO attached!!

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18 months or so before I bought the MO, I had put GY Forteras on my 2000 Durango.......and never felt secure with them. Hard braking on a dry surface could produce unpredicatable results and hard braking on wet surfaces would regularly produce front wheel lockup. The Durango only had ABS on the rear wheels, which to my mind is about as useless as a you-know-what on a bull!!

Anyway in the winter before buying the MO I managed to slide ever so gently from a snowy/icy road in my neighborhood (imagine the embarrassment) into a very shallow ditch. However the Forteras with FWD engaged could not get me out. Along comes the tow truck and hitches me up to pull me straight out. But to the tow truck operator's surprise the Durango came out sort of crab-wise, which immediately produced a negative comment on the ability of the tires from the operator.

They did not have that many miles on them, but since that comment confirmed my thoughts on the Forteras, I bought a new set of GY LSs some 4 months later, with a MO attached!!
Great to hear some feedback on the Forteras. Ok so it seems in terms of all season tires, we are back to the Yokos and Michelins for those who are not happy with the GYs.




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Hi Eric

Glad to hear you are happy with the Yokos. As to me – I stand by my opinion.

1. Look – Yokos are truck tires and look like that. I much prefer clean look of the GDY.
2. Dry traction – based on my experience of about 3k miles I believe that Yokos are not better than GDY. I would say GDY has slight advantage.
3. Wet traction – the Yokos felt more secure. However, it might be due to harder compound and stiffer sidewalls. One would need to do a scientific test to prove which tire performs better.
4. Snow – I have no idea! I live in Atlanta so I really do not care about tires performance in snowy conditions. My recent European experience lead me to conclusion that all who live in snow belt or Canada should have snow/winter tires as a second set. I would do it if I lived out there.
5. Ride – no truck tire can even compare to passenger car tire! There is no comparison.
6. Handling – stiffer sidewalls and harder compound make the Yokos handle a little better than GDY. However, GDY will tell you are approaching limits, Yokos – I am afraid will be OK till is too late. They just let go without warning.
My conclusion – till there is other passenger car tire I will stick with GDY. For those who live up North – get a good winter tire and you will be safe.

PS. Just took advantage of Firestone end of the year sale and got 4 Bridgestione Potenzas for the FX. Size – 265/60 – 18. Perfect fit for Murano. And they are passenger car tires. Great for 3 seasons. Winter – I would go with something else. Price - $1,070 fited, with all wheel alignment, road hazard insurance, free lifetime balancing. Better price that TireRack.




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Yeah Kris, I know what you mean. There is no perfect tire for the Murano, and I was more than willing to trade ride quality for better foul weather (snow,ice) handling.




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PAC aux input adapter, hardwired Escort Passport x50, KUDA mount for MP3 player, Porterfield R4S brake pads (now Akebono ProACT), ATE Superblue
Yokohama Envigor (much improved over stock Goodyears)
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Glad to see you went with the Geo's. We have 25k on ours and still love em.

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i wish goodyear made a triple tread tire in the murano's size. i hear nothing but good things about them and the passenger car assurance triple treads are whisper quiet from what i've experinced

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i wish goodyear made a triple tread tire in the murano's size. i hear nothing but good things about them and the passenger car assurance triple treads are whisper quiet from what i've experinced
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I check with GDY in December about the triple trends size for the Mo. The size that will be coming out in the 1st quarter ( there words not mine at that time) will be 255/55/18.

I checked again last weekend and they had not heard anything yet( they are going to call Edmonton today and let me know the delivery date hopefully today).

I already have the assurance triple tread on my 97 Jetta and they do preform as advertise, not that we have had much snow this year, but I am very satisfied with them and really want to get them for the Mo. They will be marketed as the Fortera tire, as I get more info I will pass it on.

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I check with GDY in December about the triple trends size for the Mo. The size that will be coming out in the 1st quarter ( there words not mine at that time) will be 255/55/18.

I checked again last weekend and they had not heard anything yet( they are going to call Edmonton today and let me know the delivery date hopefully today).

I already have the assurance triple tread on my 97 Jetta and they do preform as advertise, not that we have had much snow this year, but I am very satisfied with them and really want to get them for the Mo. They will be marketed as the Fortera tire, as I get more info I will pass it on.
I do not feel 255/55/18 is an appropriate size for the Murano - thats 1" shorter than stock (29" vs 30" diameter). So far, the only perfect plus zero sizing is 255/60/18, and 265/60/18 is just slightly taller (30.5" vs 30").




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PAC aux input adapter, hardwired Escort Passport x50, KUDA mount for MP3 player, Porterfield R4S brake pads (now Akebono ProACT), ATE Superblue
Yokohama Envigor (much improved over stock Goodyears)
Lots of squeaks and rattles.
R.I.P. 10/15/2015 CVT failure.
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i had the same thoughts Eric. it's sad that goodyear- the major tire supplier for nissan especially the murano- hasn't made a different option in the murano's size.

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