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6500k $135 shipped
8500k $145 shipped

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I am interested in brighter HIDs for my 04 SL. Do these 6500K bulbs just replace my existing factory HIDS. If not what is involved in upgrading to your brighter bulbs?
 

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BigDon MO said:
I am interested in brighter HIDs for my 04 SL. Do these 6500K bulbs just replace my existing factory HIDS. If not what is involved in upgrading to your brighter bulbs?
you're correct, they switch out your stock ones. i'm going to do them soon. i'm going to put 8500k in one side, 6500k in the other, look at them and decide what i wanna go with and then switch them accordingly. i plan on taking pics if anyone's interested.

also i MIGHT install a matching HID kit in my fogs.
 

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BigDon MO,

actually they will have lower output, just different color temperature. If you are for "cool Look" it is OK but if you are purely for higher output - it is not th eway to go.
 

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kris is right, they appear "brighter" from the front but they're not technically brighter on the road. 6500k is fine though, i honestly don't notice a vision difference at all, the color shine on the road is just a little more purple tinted than yellow/white the stock gives.
4300-4700 is produces the most "lumens" but imo 6500k produces the best look.
 

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A bit of reading on HID bulb technology can be found here:

FROM: http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/hl-hid-bulbs.htm

Notice that the higher the kelvin, the lower the lumens (second the posts above).

6000K, 7000K, 15000K HID bulb scam
Many people said, "oh no, not another blue bulb!", and thought that the blue low quality bulb "scam" finally spread over to hit the real HID market in late 2001. Philips Ultinons made in Germany have equal quality, like the OEM Philips bulb, so you cant really call that product a scam.
There are other blue HID bulbs made other places in the world that can be scam products. They maybe even have the Philips or Osram name on the box, or the base, but bulbs are made or modified by someone else. Equal bulbs can also be markeded to have different color temperature. Most customers would never know if color temp was was off, as long as they are matched as a pair. Some kit and bulb suppliers advertise with 7000K and higher. This can be suspective because a lower than OEM quality bulb can have been used. No bulb OEM manufacturer makes any versions with more than ~6000K. So either it is 6000K, or the bulb might have been painted. Painting bulbs decreases brightness and in most cases decreases life. So be aware what you are buying.
As an example, look at table below, and see how blue a 9000K bulb will be! Would you honestly want it to be as blue as the sky?

Yellow:
1500 k Candlelight
2700-2900 k Yellow painted fog halogen bulbs
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Yellowish white:
3200 k Sunrise/sunset
3200 k Premium H7 non painted halogen bulb
3400 k 1 hour from dusk/dawn
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White:
4100 k Philips/Osram OEM HID D2S
5500 k Bright sunny daylight around noon
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Blueish white
5500-5600 k Electronic photo flash
6000 k Philips Ultinon HID D2S
6500-7500 k Overcast sky
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Blue:
9000-12000 k Blue sky
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Purple:
28000 Northern sky
12000-30000 k Ultra Violet light (black light)


Stage 1 refers to 4100K and stage 2 normally refers to something higher value K.
As an example, a 6000K bulb in some headlamps might not show much difference at all, others will look more blue. These are observations when standing in front of the car looking into the headlights from above. After getting over the initial thrill of cooler light, many drivers have noticed that important traffic information are not as appearant as with OEM standard bulb. White traffic signs is being lit too much and can feel glaring.
During winter 2002, exponensional use of Kelvin (K) rating is used as brightness improving advertisement. Its all just big empty words. Do a search for "kelvin color temperature" on a search engine (ie: yahoo.com) and you will see that it has nothing to do with brightness and all to do with color. Going upwards from 4100K means that your light turns blue at the expense of total brightness and yellow color. Theoretically, if the same brightness were to be kept, you would have to increase the wattage of the bulb from 35 to maybe 40W, and redesign the ballast. This would be a very costly solution, so thats pretty much why all automotive HID bulbs are 35W.
 

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Re: A bit of reading on HID bulb technology can be found here:

SugarRushMurano said:
FROM: http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/hl-hid-bulbs.htm

Notice that the higher the wattage, the lower the lumens (second the posts above).

Sugar,

with all due respect, i think what you meant was "the higher the color temperature (Kelvin ratings), the lower the lumens". All the rest perfectly correct.......

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Hehehe Kris,...you are right!

Sorry for the wrong info in earlier post. I edited it. Thanks for pointing it out.

Also adding to my own post and in response to a pm on where to buy ultinon d2s bulb:
I used the 6000K bulb before in my audi A4. I dont particularly like the 6000K bulb as they are kindda blue for my eyes. For long road trip (~3hrs+) , the 6000K tends to give me eye fatigue.
Some other users disagree with me and to that I think it is personal taste.
The 5000K D2S Philip CM (COLOR MATCH) bulb is excellent.
As the matter of fact, I like it better than the oem 4100K.
You can buy it here at autolamps-online.com

A bit more reading for Philips Ultinon D2S HID BULB 6000K:
http://www.lamptech.co.uk/Spec Sheets/Philips D2S Ultinon.htm

Good and legit place to buy hight quality hid bulb: http://www.autolamps-online.com/gasdischarge/index.htm
or http://www.xenondepot.com/category.php?category_id=9. And I am not affiliated to them in anyway ;)
 

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Cheryls Mo...of course you are legit :)

I am just trying to underline the fact that there are lots of shady hid seller (websites) who went fold overnight...
They sold their HID (bulbs and kit), storebrand sometimes coming form taiwan, mentioning that there willbe 3 yrs warranty etc.
A couplemonths later, they fold their business, and customers are left with no support.

The 2 websites provided in my post, have been in the market for a while and i think, they are a good place to buy.

There are many more, i just dont recall the sites
Go to www.audiworld.com and do a search uisng "HID D2S buy"
There have been many posts there....
 

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Welcome to the world of the GRIP :D
 

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8500K for $120? Good deal...I've been getting flashed a lot lately with my 1000K even though they are aligned correctly. Maybe a 'downgrade' in color temperature is necessary.

Does anyone know of a reputable/less-costly source to buy HID conversion kits for the fogs? Something around $300-350.
 

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i'm about to put in a big hid kit order from kaixen for someone. i can order another hid 8500k 9006 . total for the kit and bulbs would be 425 SHIPPPED. all brand new. i've hooked up these hid kits and they're nice, high quality korean made, not china made stuff.
lemme know guys. i have ONE 8500k left in the d2s.
 
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