Smart/Intelligent Ket Question/Problem

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gadgetfreak

Discussion Starter · Sep 15, 2006

Smart/Intelligent Key Question/Problem

Let's look at a scenario. You are driving around doing errands and you get to the grocery store. You exit the MO leaving the ignition on and locking the doors either with the key fob or the button inside or outside the MO. A burgler approaches the car and jimmies the door open. The ignition is still on and you are in the store with your smart key. I think I just realized that the guy could drive away even though the smart key is far away. Once he shuts the car, he won't be able to start it again, but he can drive the car away from the parking lot. Can someone PLEASE tell me that this is not true or at least give me a reason why this is not as bad as it sounds?

On a related note, take the burgler out of the scenario. How long would the car stay on? Will it ever shut off by itself if I am in the grocery store for more than X minutes?

Thanks, in advance, for your help.

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davidmw78

· #21 · Sep 21, 2006

I agree that it would make sense for the Intelligent Key absence to trigger a park lock without the mechanical key. I assumed my MO had that function. I tested it about an hour ago before even seeing this thread. I can't believe it. What are the three beeps for??? It just makes no sense. If they had the Park Locking feature you couldn't forget to take your keys with you.

This seems like an easy MOD.

Now, does anyone have wiring diagrams for the intelligent key computer?

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gadgetfreak

Discussion Starter · #22 · Sep 21, 2006

Hey David. Thanks for joining the thread. The 3 beeps seem to be just a reminder that you are walking away with the smart key but as you just realized (and I did too recently), there is no security of a park-lock when taking the key with you.

As I see it, Nissan went halfway on this and they should have either done all or none. Either allow the car to stay on but with added security features or have it shut down as soon as the fob is removed from the vehicle assuming the car is in park.

But I would also like to know how easy it would be to have this changed.

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Pinspector

· #23 · Nov 1, 2006

Think About It!

You just spent $25+ thousand for a really great car. Now, you leave it in a parking lot with the engne running and the keys in the ignition. I'm sorry, but are you stupid? I've seen it a lot, with and without children in the car. Why in the world would someone do that??! Shut the car off, take your keys and go shopping. Chances are the car will be there when you get back.

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gadgetfreak

Discussion Starter · #24 · Nov 1, 2006

Re: Think About It!

Pinspector said:
You just spent $25+ thousand for a really great car. Now, you leave it in a parking lot with the engne running and the keys in the ignition. I'm sorry, but are you stupid? I've seen it a lot, with and without children in the car. Why in the world would someone do that??! Shut the car off, take your keys and go shopping. Chances are the car will be there when you get back.

I only started reading this thread because I got an e-mail notification. Since it took so long to re-read everything again, I guess I will take the time to address your post. I think, though, that you should read the thread again carefully. We are talking about the car starting with the smartkey in the car, and then the smart key leaving the car (i.e. taking the "key" with you"). Car stays on and remains driveable (park, reverse, drive, etc.) until the ignition is turned off. There should be a security feature that if the car goes into park and the smart key is not in the vehicle, either the park lock should be engaged or the car should shut down.

No one is talking about leaving a car running with the keys in it - unless I am misreading your post.

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sobamanismo

· #25 · Nov 1, 2006

Re: Re: Think About It!

gadgetfreak said:
No one is talking about leaving a car running with the keys in it - unless I am misreading your post.

I think it could be said since we (with intelligent keys) don't have to use the mechanical key to start and keep the car running that in essence by walking away with the car running and no existing parking lock feature you are "leaving the car running (and ready to walk away) with the keys in it.

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gadgetfreak

Discussion Starter · #26 · Nov 1, 2006

Re: Re: Re: Think About It!

sobamanismo said:
I think it could be said since we (with intelligent keys) don't have to use the mechanical key to start and keep the car running that in essence by walking away with the car running and no existing parking lock feature you are "leaving the car running (and ready to walk away) with the keys in it.

THAT I agree with. But that was the whole point of the post. Although we are removing the smartkey, the car can still run which IS the same as leaving the keys in the car running.

I just thought it would make sense to have an additional safety feature to prevent that. Oh well, maybe in a future addition.

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Ayo

· #27 · 13 d ago

gadgetfreak said:
Smart/Intelligent Key Question/Problem

Let's look at a scenario. You are driving around doing errands and you get to the grocery store. You exit the MO leaving the ignition on and locking the doors either with the key fob or the button inside or outside the MO. A burgler approaches the car and jimmies the door open. The ignition is still on and you are in the store with your smart key. I think I just realized that the guy could drive away even though the smart key is far away. Once he shuts the car, he won't be able to start it again, but he can drive the car away from the parking lot. Can someone PLEASE tell me that this is not true or at least give me a reason why this is not as bad as it sounds?

On a related note, take the burgler out of the scenario. How long would the car stay on? Will it ever shut off by itself if I am in the grocery store for more than X minutes?

Thanks, in advance, for your help.

Yea I did the same thing ( by mistake) the car was turned on and I drove home from my uncle's house, not knowing I wasn't with the key ( extra miles) when I got home I turn off the vehicle and now I have the key but the vehicle is not starting
Pls what could be the problem....... thank you in advance, I appreciate

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jjervis

· #28 · 8 d ago

My 2020 shuts off if you try to put it in gear. This is when you have it running from remote start and do not restart it and push on brake. (And this is with me in the car, and my key in my pocket.) My 2019 would run, but functionality was limited. Wipers and other things would not work. I thought the older ones would shut off when a certain distance from key.

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Pilgrim

· #29 · 8 d ago

jjervis said:
My 2020 shuts off if you try to put it in gear. This is when you have it running from remote start and do not restart it and push on brake. (And this is with me in the car, and my key in my pocket.) My 2019 would run, but functionality was limited. Wipers and other things would not work. I thought the older ones would shut off when a certain distance from key.

That's probably how it's designed. If I tried to put my Jeep in gear after using the remote engine start, it would shut down as well. That makes perfect since, as using the remote start opens the vehicle to theft. Making the driver hit the start with the key fob present is a logical theft prevention measure. Just having the fob isn't enough.

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