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I can't tell if my 2016 SL is pretending to shift. It seemed like it at one point, but it's hard to tell. I'm not through the break in period so I'm not gunning it just yet.

Does anyone know if Nissan put the faux shifts into the Murano? God I hope not.
 
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I thought I read in another thread in this forum about Nissan programing "fake" shifting with the CVT transmissons. I think the poster provided a link to an article about it.


Sorry man....just to lazy to do a search right now but it's in another transmission thread somewhere around here.
 
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csbrown28@gmail said:
I can't tell if my 2016 SL is pretending to shift. It seemed like it at one point, but it's hard to tell. I'm not through the break in period so I'm not gunning it just yet.

Does anyone know if Nissan put the faux shifts into the Murano? God I hope not.
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Yup. I think that it simulates shifts if you press the accelerator down 3/4 or more.
 
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Most people don't know how a CVT is supposed to work, and a few of them think their tranny isn't working if it doesn't shift. More than one manufacturer has added artificial "shifts" to provide a more familiar feel to drivers.

It is kind of cool that a CVT can be programmed with pre-set drive ratio steps pretty much any way that the manufacturer decides.
 
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Pilgrim said:
Most people don't know how a CVT is supposed to work, and a few of them think their tranny isn't working if it doesn't shift. More than one manufacturer has added artificial "shifts" to provide a more familiar feel to drivers.

It is kind of cool that a CVT can be programmed with pre-set drive ratio steps pretty much any way that the manufacturer decides.
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You know what would be even cooler? If there was a button that said "If your dumb and don't understand your CVT transmission, push here"". That way the rest of us could take maximum advantage of the technology. :D
 
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csbrown28@gmail said:
You know what would be even cooler? If there was a button that said "If your dumb and don't understand your CVT transmission, push here"". That way the rest of us could take maximum advantage of the technology. :D
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I am sure your attempt in sending this message is a noble one. What I am questioning is why you have to resort to calling folks here who may not be as expert as you are in such technical matters in a derogatory term.

After all this is a community where bullies are not welcomed. We encourage folks to openly ask questions and have them answered by the community without being concerned that they may be perceived uninformed and less intelligent than the rest of us!

After all there is NO such a thing as an unintelligent inquiry!
 
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Professor Maxxx said:
I am sure your attempt in sending this message is a noble one. What I am questioning is why you have to resort to calling folks here who may not be as expert as you are in such technical matters in a derogatory term.

After all this is a community where bullies are not welcomed. We encourage folks to openly ask questions and have them answered by the community without being concerned that they may be perceived uninformed and less intelligent than the rest of us!

After all there is NO such a thing as an unintelligent inquiry!
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You're misinterpreting, again.
 
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Professor Maxxx said:
I am sure your attempt in sending this message is a noble one. What I am questioning is why you have to resort to calling folks here who may not be as expert as you are in such technical matters in a derogatory term.

After all this is a community where bullies are not welcomed. We encourage folks to openly ask questions and have them answered by the community without being concerned that they may be perceived uninformed and less intelligent than the rest of us!

After all there is NO such a thing as an unintelligent inquiry!
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That was a little tongue-and-cheek... Not meant to hurt anyone's feelings....lol
 
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Guys, calm down. You're misreading sarcasm and making an issue out of nothing.

Let's get back on topic.

So, I don't drive our Murano and have a question.

If you drive these regularly, can you manipulate the fake shifting and avoid or cause it?
 
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You can force the simulated shifting by manipulating the gear shifter in "sport mode" or whatever Nissan calls it. No paddles, but it's something. Don't really see the point of trying to avoid the shifts. Buy a used Nissan Rogue (buy my wife's POS 2009) if you want that miserable, 1 gear droning experience.
 
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Robotaz said:
Guys, calm down. You're misreading sarcasm and making an issue out of nothing.

Let's get back on topic.

So, I don't drive our Murano and have a question.

If you drive these regularly, can you manipulate the fake shifting and avoid or cause it?
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Yes, you can. The TCM will learn your driving habits over time. Drive more aggressively and it will remember that, drive very slowly and it remembers that.
I drive my Murano in manual mode at least a couple times a week to keep the throttle response sharp.
Anyway, hope this helps:
 
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Winterpeg said:
Yes, you can. The TCM will learn your driving habits over time. Drive more aggressively and it will remember that, drive very slowly and it remembers that.
I drive my Murano in manual mode at least a couple times a week to keep the throttle response sharp.
Anyway, hope this helps:
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How does driving it in the manual mode change the behavior when not in manual mode?
 
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Robotaz said:
How does driving it in the manual mode change the behavior when not in manual mode?
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The TCM remembers how aggressive you are when driving. I use the manual mode and shift it at a minimum of 4K rpms through the range of shift points. Then, when driving in "D" mode, the car continues to "shift" more aggressively after that. I also own at Infiniti which works the same way.
It works for our vehicle but you have to drive it aggressively.
Anyway, Happy Motoring
 
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Wow. I never would have guessed. I don't consider it to be sound logic to overlay manual mode driving learning in the mapping that is developed for non-manual mode. That really makes no sense at all and sounds like lazy programming.

Glad I asked.
 
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Not sure I agree with the "faux shifting" terminology , its physically changing ratios (though using an entirely different method to achieve said ratios) so technically it is shifting. When it does shift it also feels crisper than that 6 speed Santa Fe Sport 2.0 turbo I drove last year.

I dunno....I never thought I'd say this a year or two ago but I like this CVT and the way it behaves.
 
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Mikeybc said:
Not sure I agree with the "faux shifting" terminology , its physically changing ratios (though using an entirely different method to achieve said ratios) so technically it is shifting. When it does shift it also feels crisper than that 6 speed Santa Fe Sport 2.0 turbo I drove last year.

I dunno....I never thought I'd say this a year or two ago but I like this CVT and the way it behaves.
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I agree 100%! I was very leery about the CVT in the Murano as I love the "shifting" of my Infiniti, but it shifts/feels great! I drove the Acura RDX before we bought the Murano and it shifted very abruptly.
Anyway, everyone should play with the "manual" mode and it does help with increasing throttle response which is lacking in today's vehicles due to MPG priorities.
 
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Robotaz said:
Wow. I never would have guessed. I don't consider it to be sound logic to overlay manual mode driving learning in the mapping that is developed for non-manual mode. That really makes no sense at all and sounds like lazy programming.

Glad I asked.
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Mr. Robot,

Winter is reminding you NOT to drive like a LOM , "Little Old Man":D

I am sure there is a little left here to misinterpret::nerd:
 
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