I have had nothing but trouble out of my 2010 Nissan Murano SL, its transmission. The cvt transmissions are a joke. I changed the cvt fluid filter and all. I have 130,000 miles on it. You can start it put it in gear and it won't pull out in reverse or Drive. My advice is to stay away from any Nissan Murano with a cvt transmission. They are nothing but JUNK.
2010 Nissan Murano SL
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I have had nothing but trouble out of my 2010 Nissan Murano SL, its transmission. The cvt transmissions are a joke. I changed the cvt fluid filter and all. I have 130,000 miles on it. You can start it put it in gear and it won't pull out in reverse or Drive. My advice is to stay away from any Nissan Murano with a cvt transmission. They are nothing but JUNK.
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Sorry to hear you're having trouble and that doesn't sound good for sure. Did you buy your car new? How often did you service the cvt? I'm new to Murano and cvt and am alarmed at all the cvt reliability issues I read about now that I own one. I'm curious if somebody really takes care of one by the book and doesn't hammer it with abuse can get this kind of result in 130k miles. I hear of a few getting to 200k or 300k but don't know how common that is either. I certainly hear more stories of them failing at 140k than stories of anybody making it to 300k.
I had literally never heard about any of this before I owned one and I'm probably into cars way more than the average person (neighborhood dad pulls up in a brand new tundra and i ask him how he feels about the turbo v6 and he says he doesn't know what kind of engine it has). I can't believe this isn't more common knowledge somehow and that it didn't ruin Nissan's reputation if they're really that bad. I don't see any single topic on Toyota forums or even my Infiniti forum (yes Nissan but we don't get the cvt) that rivals the frequency and severity of complaints I read about cvts in these cars. Charging problems come close in frequency but not in the cost to repair.
I had literally never heard about any of this before I owned one and I'm probably into cars way more than the average person (neighborhood dad pulls up in a brand new tundra and i ask him how he feels about the turbo v6 and he says he doesn't know what kind of engine it has). I can't believe this isn't more common knowledge somehow and that it didn't ruin Nissan's reputation if they're really that bad. I don't see any single topic on Toyota forums or even my Infiniti forum (yes Nissan but we don't get the cvt) that rivals the frequency and severity of complaints I read about cvts in these cars. Charging problems come close in frequency but not in the cost to repair.
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People tend to come to this forum more often to report failures than the do to say everything is still working fine after 200-300 hundred thousand miles, it's human nature...
1st gen Murano CVTs do tend to fail more often then later generations. But even still, there have been a number of reports of no problems after 200-300 hundred thousand miles, FYIW...
Most alternator failure reports (to me) appear to be due to faulty aftermarket/rebuild replacements...
Early first gens did have an alternator recall, mine failed on the way to the dealership to perform the recall. They paid for the tow.
1st gen Murano CVTs do tend to fail more often then later generations. But even still, there have been a number of reports of no problems after 200-300 hundred thousand miles, FYIW...
Most alternator failure reports (to me) appear to be due to faulty aftermarket/rebuild replacements...
Early first gens did have an alternator recall, mine failed on the way to the dealership to perform the recall. They paid for the tow.
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Yeah I get there are more complaints but usually you get at least a few threads of people bragging about their high mileage ones and trying to top each other. I don't see much high mileage discussion. Lots of cvt stories though. I wish I knew how to use google or gpt to gather statistics from the web. I'm certain you could get some kind of measure of relative reliability from aggregate search history.
Found a cool old thread about high mileage reliability. Couple of people chimed in back then with stories of getting to 100k, 200k even one with 300k. But the comments are pretty similar to today. Alternators and CVTs. Same as it ever was....
www.nissanmurano.org
Found a cool old thread about high mileage reliability. Couple of people chimed in back then with stories of getting to 100k, 200k even one with 300k. But the comments are pretty similar to today. Alternators and CVTs. Same as it ever was....
High mileage Murano's
I'd like to hear from anyone with a high mileage MO. 100K? 200K? How has it held up in terms of Engine, CVT, interior, body, etc.
www.nissanmurano.org
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Bought used at a car lot 2nd owner it had 118,000 on it I kept it well maintained oil changes filter changes even changed mass-air-flow-sensor still owe 5000 for it but can't drive it at all.
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That sounds like a crap situation for sure. This sounds like one of those strategic decision making case studies of good decision/bad outcome. Trusting a traditionally reliable Japanese car brand is a good decision compared to many alternatives but so many variables like unknown service history and nuances of living with a cvt produce greater variability in outcomes compared to average Japanese car with regular auto transmission produced for the last 20-30 years.
I don't remember where I read it but maybe in that old high mileage reliability thread and it sounded like good advice to me. One of the admins advised a person in your exact situation (presumed cvt failure) to spend the diag fee to get a confirmed diagnosis rather than assume it and give up on a car. Better to make a possibly expensive decision based on a professional analysis rather than a guess based on something that sounds like your problem that you read on the internet. I hope you have a knowledgeable mechanic you can trust to do the diag. I'm not a big fan of dealerships or used auto lots when it comes to diagnosing big problems.
I don't remember where I read it but maybe in that old high mileage reliability thread and it sounded like good advice to me. One of the admins advised a person in your exact situation (presumed cvt failure) to spend the diag fee to get a confirmed diagnosis rather than assume it and give up on a car. Better to make a possibly expensive decision based on a professional analysis rather than a guess based on something that sounds like your problem that you read on the internet. I hope you have a knowledgeable mechanic you can trust to do the diag. I'm not a big fan of dealerships or used auto lots when it comes to diagnosing big problems.
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Check this out:
Nissan Murano - problems, statistics, and analysis
Statistics of the reported problems of Nissan Murano vehicles. Reliability study of Nissan Murano cars.
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Wow that’s pretty cool! What are all the seat problems being reported? I don’t see those on the forum. #2 and #3 make perfect sense and correlate well with what we see here. I wonder how the data source affects the list. The site says the data comes from problems reported to the dot and nhtsa. I can imagine reporting certain kinds of defects that I think are safety problems to nhtsa but I personally wouldn’t report things that seem like reliability issues like my alternator died or oil leaks or consumption but I guess people do. need the whole data set though to draw conclusions like time to failure and extra data like mileage rather than age to be really useful. If unit sales numbers are available to normalize it you could really compare models or manufacturers.
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3rd gen Platinum trim models ventilated seats tend to be trouble prone. And, if I recall, some 1st gens had a seat bracket breaking issue that would cause the seat to rock.
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FWIW, ChatGBT:
Is the Nissan JATCO CVT inherently less reliable than conventional automatic transmissions?
In terms of inherent reliability, it is difficult to make a broad generalization comparing the Nissan JATCO CVT to conventional automatic transmissions. Reliability can vary across different transmission types and models, and it depends on various factors such as design, engineering, manufacturing quality, and maintenance.
CVTs, including the Nissan JATCO CVT, have a different operating principle compared to conventional automatic transmissions. They use a system of belts and pulleys to provide seamless gear ratio changes, which can result in improved fuel efficiency and smoother acceleration. However, the complexity of CVTs can introduce potential points of failure.
Conventional automatic transmissions, on the other hand, use a series of gears to achieve different gear ratios. While they have been around for a longer time and are generally considered reliable, they can also have their own specific issues.
It's important to note that advancements in technology and engineering have led to improvements in the reliability of both CVTs and conventional automatic transmissions over the years. Automakers have been addressing issues and making updates to enhance the performance and durability of their transmissions.
Ultimately, when considering the reliability of a specific transmission, it is essential to research the particular model and year of the vehicle, review customer feedback and experiences, and consider factors such as maintenance history and driving conditions. Consulting reputable sources and seeking professional advice can also provide valuable insights into the reliability of a specific transmission type or model.
Is the Nissan JATCO CVT inherently less reliable than conventional automatic transmissions?
In terms of inherent reliability, it is difficult to make a broad generalization comparing the Nissan JATCO CVT to conventional automatic transmissions. Reliability can vary across different transmission types and models, and it depends on various factors such as design, engineering, manufacturing quality, and maintenance.
CVTs, including the Nissan JATCO CVT, have a different operating principle compared to conventional automatic transmissions. They use a system of belts and pulleys to provide seamless gear ratio changes, which can result in improved fuel efficiency and smoother acceleration. However, the complexity of CVTs can introduce potential points of failure.
Conventional automatic transmissions, on the other hand, use a series of gears to achieve different gear ratios. While they have been around for a longer time and are generally considered reliable, they can also have their own specific issues.
It's important to note that advancements in technology and engineering have led to improvements in the reliability of both CVTs and conventional automatic transmissions over the years. Automakers have been addressing issues and making updates to enhance the performance and durability of their transmissions.
Ultimately, when considering the reliability of a specific transmission, it is essential to research the particular model and year of the vehicle, review customer feedback and experiences, and consider factors such as maintenance history and driving conditions. Consulting reputable sources and seeking professional advice can also provide valuable insights into the reliability of a specific transmission type or model.
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I tried to get GPT's opinion about reliability of CVT vs automatic transmission and it was super politically correct and non-committal and wouldn't defame either technology by saying anything negative about either. Now I'm questioning GPT's omnipotence. I'm confident if you hold all other variables equal (operator, vehicle, driving habits, maintenance performed, etc.) that regular old auto tranny would come out on top in reliability (time to failure, time to repair, cost to repair). CVT may have many good traits that make it superior to regular auto but I can't believe reliability is one of them.
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Exactly no reliability with the cvt
@MuranoSL2003 post #11
OMG, That is the exact style of writing that I've seen of some of the new members postings.
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OMG, That is the exact style of writing that I've seen of some of the new members postings.
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Yeah, my experience so far with ChatGBT is it's pretty lame, it hasn't proven useful at all for me...
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Sorry I'm getting off topic but part of the reason I wanted to get gpt's opinion is because everywhere I go i hear nothing but how great this thing is. My kid told me people at his school are using to do things like create rhymes or poems for theology class and he raves how brilliant it is. A mechanical engineer and non-code guy at work used it to write some python code (albeit simple) and it worked great. The whole reason he tried to do that was because a software engineer he worked with optimized a whole commercially available kitchen appliance from a company you all know and said gpt made it half the size and was amazed at the results. But it looks like gpt isn't a car guy.... people are really divided about Scotty Kilmer and Car Wizard but I trust those guy's opinion about CVTs more than GPT now. When I need a poem I'll ask gpt.
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GPT does NOT give you an opinion. It uses online data to provide a grammatically correct response which may be entirely wrong. GPT doesn't value the data it finds, although I'm sure that a majority of negative comments would produce a negative result, since it just uses the data it finds to provide a statement.
There is no "omnipotence" involved, just mashing data to form a response.
In response to " CVT may have many good traits that make it superior to regular auto but I can't believe reliability is one of them" I would say that like most things about cars, the idea of better or worse depends heavily on who drives, under that circumstances, carrying what passengers or cargo, in what traffic settings, with what set fo driver skills, etc. Personally I prefer a manual transmission for most driving, and in other circumstances I prefer a conventional automatic to a CVT transmission, but that's from a sample size of One.
And anyone can have a bad transmission. I had a 1990 Audi 200 Turbo that needed an early automatic trans rebuild; most of the 5-cylinder Audi turbos did, and every mechanic knew that the automatic transmission used in them wasn't strong enough to handle the turbo engine. That's simply the kind of thing that is known about certain vehicles.
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Nissan isn't the only Car maker that has cars with CVT. It's another Way to take our money. I swear they think everyone can afford to just throw away and buy new everytime something breaks down and not just cars.
I also have a 2010 Murano SL it has 188k miles and has not given me any trouble until the issue with codes P1777 & P1070 which P1777 is the only one showing now and I can't get any mechanic to diagnose a few possible remedies for it. I need another transmission they say the two who have looked at it and one I'm not sure if he actually did a thing since I got no paperwork or charged for running any type of testing, just told to replace at a cost of 4800.00 heck I paid just a 1000 more when I bought it used 3 yr ago. I take care of my cars always have so I know it was well maintained by me and all was good when I bought it according to Carfax report.
Please see the second post on the following link.
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When I read a post like this, I wonder if it occurs to us that ALL cars eventually need repair or maintenance. DOn't forget that many vehicles with conventional automatic (and manual) transmissions will need repair or a rebuild well before 188K miles. I find the need to rebuild a CVT at 188K miles to be unremarkable. It s the kind of thing you hope won't happen, but it often does.
When a transmission of any type needs repair or rebuild at more than 100K miles, it's not that unusual. The question simply is whether you can repair it for less than it would cost to buy a comparable vehicle. Since you already know your vehicle's condition and state of repair, that makes repairing the transmission an easier decision.
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