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AUX Input Available Soon!

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#1 ·
From www.pac-audio.com:

Expected shipping date is end of April (beta interfaces are being tested). The AAI-NIS works with a Satellite ready factory G35 radios. It has two auxiliary inputs selected by the SAT button on face of radio. The G35 Aux input is the first in the industry to use the steering wheel or radio buttons to send out commands to PAC's optional SWI-X which can be used to control an MP3 player, DVD, VCP or most devices that use an infrared remote. The AAI-NIS also comes with a negative remote output when ever in Aux mode. (This aux input will not work if the vehicle is already equipped with a satellite receiver).
 
#127 ·
BTW, Jaak, I posted elsewhere today asking for a starting place to look for patterns in serial streams and reinject matching patterns as keystrokes or events in Linux, and Bruce Perens (yes, the Open Source God) replied that he uses XTest for that very purpose all the time. I will be checking it out shortly.

I really want to whip up a GUI head unit and steering wheel emulator that takes mouse clicks on button images and sends the appropriate hex values out through the serial port.

When you post your hex values are they coming across the line as ASCII text or binary values?
 
#128 ·
Binary represented by Hex. Let me know when you have it working and I can give you the Preset buttons too. I haven't taken the time to capture the steering wheel controls yet, and I don't know if it sends separate commands, or just tells the radio to send the corresponding command that's duplicated on the radio.

When you get something working, if you get to it before me, try the steering wheel control and see if you get equivalent radio control command.

And yeah, the website is IE preferred as the last run through I used MS tools to update it. (That'll teach me..) I'll have to look at Firefox this weekend. Right now, I'm crazy busy! (If I recall correctly, it's actually Netscape, built off of Mozilla as Netscape is the commercial version of the net generated Mozilla browser. IE came after that, when MS woke up and developed their own browser. Boy, that was a good, what 12 years ago? More? Can't remember... I do remember using Gopher and when the Web Browser was created, being reallly thrilled....)
 
#129 ·
Jaak, thanks for the pictures and overall help. I installed the PAC unit today, very happy.

I was not able to look my CD player... after I turned it off, no matter which buttons I pushed I could not get the display to change...

The other problem I had was that I did not immediately identify the power supply on the back of the radio, nor how to take it out. For the record, (mine) was a white plug near the top of the unit. There is a button on the bottom that releases the plug.

Again, thanks for all the info.

Chris
 
#131 ·
No.

Well OK, yes, but it's not practical.

What you can do, is switch the audio inputs in and out between the two, but you need an unbalanced to balanced audio converter.
 
#132 ·
Soundgate AUX-NISS, anyone tried this?

This device lists the following applications:

VEHICLE-SPECIFIC APPLICATIONS:

Nissan
2003-2004 350Z (w/o "SAT" button on Radio)
1998-2001 Altima
1998-2003 Frontier
1998-2003 Maxima
1998-2002 Pathfinder
2002-2003 Sentra (w/o Fosgate system)
2000-2003 Xterra (with AM/FM/CD player)

Infiniti
1998-2002 G20
2003-2004 G35 (w/o "SAT" button on Radio)
1998-2001 I30
1998-2002 Q45
1998-2002 QX4

Find it here:

http://www.logjamelectronics.com/logjam/soundauxniss.html

We just got a used 2000 I30, and we have several iPods in the family. I seriously would have gotten another car in the same price range if I knew AUX in would be such a challenge. I'm hoping this will work, but look forward to getting feedback on it before I buy it.

So......anyone have one of these?

Thanks.
 
#134 ·
Keep your optimism up. Nbus was originally for outboard CD changers and was updated in the radio's firmware to take a SAT receiver. Since there's a number of older vehicles there that never supported sat, chances are good it will work on your I30, as long as you don't want to use the outboard CD Changer.
 
#135 ·
My son has a 2005 Altima with the standard radio. NO tape, CD, NO SAT. Anybody know who might make a AUX in so he can use his Ipod? Thanks GRIP :D
 
#137 ·
I guess you overlooked that He does not have a SAT ready Radio. I use the unit you refered to in My MO which is with a SAT ready radio. Sorry I should have made that more clear. That is the problem he is facing. A leased car, Not tape, No sat capability and hates the FM modulators.. Thanks anyway GRIP :D Anybody with other Ideas?
 
#138 ·
#140 ·
For me, that's an easy choice

I'll take 10,000 tunes controlled from the iPod/dash controls over 6 CDs controlled from the steering wheel.

There's nothing on a CD that can't be on my iPod. In fact, I don't ever carry CDs around.

I spend some time on my playlists, so all I really need to control is the volume, unless someone wants to play "stump the band", in which case I have to get on the scroll wheel.
 
#141 ·
Very sorry I left out it's a lease so he can't put in a new head unit. Wish he could that would make it easy. Other suggestion please. GRIP :D
 
#143 ·
Good thought, I'll tell to kid. GRIP :D
 
#144 ·
I have the PAC unit for giving my a line in. When it is very cold sometimes the PAC unit doesn't show up. I push the SAT button, it says, NO SAT.

It does work after the car warms up, but you have to power the stereo on and off for it to recognize that you now have a SAT.

Has anyone else seen this problem?

BTW, very cold usually is < 15 F in this case.

Thanks,
Chris
 
#145 ·
No, my problem is different, I connected my Ipod to input 1 and input 2 is empty, it seems the the PAC "hears" if any sound is present on the inputs in order to activate them, when Im using my Ipod's car charger sometimes a background noise appears on SAT 2 input which is not connected, so the PAC misunderstand this and sticks on SAT 2 and I cannot switch to SAT 1.
The only way thats works for me is turning the key to ACC (without starting the engine), using the Ipod's battery I can be sure that there is no noise on input 2, then switching the IPOD ON and volume UP then switching the radio OFF and ON, I can have my audio back on SAT 1.
 
#147 ·
On the original issue of needing an extra input when you already have the Sat receiver......

Here is a 2-fisted suggestion/theory:

Pick up Clarion CD Changer from pawn shop.

Have someone "shotgun" it and remove the internal mechanical assembly and place a line level out circuit that will input from Ipod, MP3, (your analog source here) and sends audio back upstream to the Bose head unit.

In theory, the head unit will see the hex ID from the changer when it is daisy chained through the Sat receiver. From what I understand, holding the CD button in on the head unit will toggle between internal and external changer??

If all goes well so far, the head unit will think it is reading from the external changer and will pass the audio from the mp3 player.

Hopefully, the text enabled data stream will also show up on the display with song info.

I have a 20 Gig RCA Lyra RD2780 AV Jukebox that I want to incorporate into my Murano, and use it's TFT display for a Back-up camera (CCD) and for storing Audio and Video. The drive can be updated to 80 gig, and it has inputs and outputs for both audio and video.

This theory isn't excepptionally well thought out, but it may have some potential.

I will be looking for a Clarion CD changer to play with....

Also, has anyone looked into PYE cables for a protocol converter?

I had sourced a cable from them to allow my Kenwood Sirius tuner to plug direct to the head unit in my old PT Cruiser. I don't know if they are looking at the Murano for development or not...
 
#148 ·
Hello,

I have an Infiniti Q35 and it has the same BOSE radio. But the tuner is 88,1 88,3 etc, only odd numbers. Does anybody know how to switch or reprogram the radio to european mode, with 0,1 or 0,05 steps - 88,1 88,2 88,3 etc. ?

anybody? Bose headquarters and Infiniti manufacturers are literally ignoring emails

pleeese heeelp :)

Heiti
 
#149 ·
Dalite said:
On the original issue of needing an extra input when you already have the Sat receiver......

Here is a 2-fisted suggestion/theory:

Pick up Clarion CD Changer from pawn shop.

Have someone "shotgun" it and remove the internal mechanical assembly and place a line level out circuit that will input from Ipod, MP3, (your analog source here) and sends audio back upstream to the Bose head unit.

In theory, the head unit will see the hex ID from the changer when it is daisy chained through the Sat receiver. From what I understand, holding the CD button in on the head unit will toggle between internal and external changer??

If all goes well so far, the head unit will think it is reading from the external changer and will pass the audio from the mp3 player.

Hopefully, the text enabled data stream will also show up on the display with song info.

I have a 20 Gig RCA Lyra RD2780 AV Jukebox that I want to incorporate into my Murano, and use it's TFT display for a Back-up camera (CCD) and for storing Audio and Video. The drive can be updated to 80 gig, and it has inputs and outputs for both audio and video.

This theory isn't excepptionally well thought out, but it may have some potential.

I will be looking for a Clarion CD changer to play with....

Also, has anyone looked into PYE cables for a protocol converter?

I had sourced a cable from them to allow my Kenwood Sirius tuner to plug direct to the head unit in my old PT Cruiser. I don't know if they are looking at the Murano for development or not...
Great idea, but Clarion's consumer products aren't compatible.

Get a USA-SPEC changer if you want to try this.
 
#150 ·
jaak said:
See the picture of that circuit board, above?

It's working...:D
jaak,

These are probably dumb questions, but....

1. Is the audio actualy passed along the NBUS, or is only the data stream identifying the Sat, CD or Radio as the source?
[If it is only data, could a source switcher be placed in the audio line(s)]

2. Is the factory Sirius tuner "sealed" in any way with an anti-tamper label?

3. Is it possible to find an analog point within the Sirius tuner and insert a PIE source switcher - or equivalent?

4. Could the PAC unit be "daisy chained" to the existing Sirius unit and a method of switching between the two SAT IDs?

5. Does NBUS have similarities with Icom's CIV, or Phillips I2C bus?