Nissan Murano Forum banner

The Window Rattle

6.4M views 512 replies 111 participants last post by  06murano  
#1 ·
Okay, I've dealt with this problem ever since I took ownership. I figured it might go away as the vehicle 'settled' and all the materials weathered, but noooo...

My driver and passenger windows (and very rarely the rear pass/driver) rattle. Or, more accurately, something is rattling against them and it resonates across the entire window surface. This sounds like a tapping or a creaking (but with a more rapid report, like a *tap!*) and happens in two situations:

Driver's side will tap when hitting a bump on the passenger side. Usually these are creases between sections of paved road. Sudden, quick, snappy bumps.

Passenger side will tap when hitting a similar bump on the driver side.

Both sides will tap if whatever causes the bump hits both sides of the car.

Also, occasionally tapping when the vehicle's weight shifts, like going around curves.

These only happen when the windows are fully up. These also happen MUCH more frequently if it is cold outside, often to the point where -any- bump will result in tap-tap-tap.

Given the topics on "the other Murano forum", people have had a variety of solutions for this. A variety of problems, I imagine. One dude took his door apart and tweaked something where the window rests. Frankly, I don't know what to do.

My MO is going in for 7500 service soon, and I will mention it to the techs. Again. The first time, they heard it on my initial drive, but then couldn't reproduce it (that old line) on subsequent test drives. They must've driven it around their nicely paved, smooth parking lot, because on any normal road, it'll do it. Often.

Mrf. :/
 
#402 ·
Slide it down further and use a black paper. :)
 
#404 ·
Use a Starbuck's cup torn and folded. :D
 
#405 ·
Scrib, I first tried the card by itself as indicated in that photo.
My tic noise changed to a moan and a groan. That is the point when I sprayed the card and slid it up and down just to get the goop in the offending area. I removed the card and let the lube due it's thing. I have no card in that slot just the lithium.
That's about it.
Bob1
 
#407 ·
Gonzo said:



That was me and thus far its been quiet. I used a over sized piece of foam and pushed it in with my credit card. I would have use something like you suggested but I was affraid that it would prematurally stick prior to my desired insertion point. (OK no funny jokes about that one please....) :rolleyes:
No jokes hard to pass up! :D
 
#408 ·
Scrib - Like Bob, I don't have the card in position either, just the WLG sprayed into the crack on the passenger side door. On the driver's side door of my Murano, I used a light color felt instead of a business card (its the stuff you find at Home Depot for sticking onto the bottoms of chair and table legs so that you can slide the furniture along wood floors smoothly - felt on one side, sticky on the other). For the driver's door, the felt/business card trick worked. It didn't on the passenger side. I was at a loss until Bob's suggestion, hence the WLG solution. If the felt stops working on the driver's side, I'm switching to the WLG. I don't notice the felt because its colored similar to the Cafe Latte interior plastic and you don't see that part of the trim with the door closed.
 
#411 ·
Not really. There aren't too many moving parts exposed on that section of door (right at the edge) and the whole affair is sealed up pretty well. I can't see much dirt getting in there. When I took the door panels off my last car to change out the power window motor, the inside of the doors looked as new and clean as the day I bought it - and that was eight years before! So I don't think it should be an issue.
 
#412 ·
Ok cross your fiingers I will supposedly have a new door panel installed this week. Because of the could temperatures here the rattling has been constant so I'm hoping I see , or this case hear, a noticable difference.
 
#413 ·
Jim C said:
Scrib - Like Bob, I don't have the card in position either, just the WLG sprayed into the crack on the passenger side door. On the driver's side door of my Murano, I used a light color felt instead of a business card (its the stuff you find at Home Depot for sticking onto the bottoms of chair and table legs so that you can slide the furniture along wood floors smoothly - felt on one side, sticky on the other). For the driver's door, the felt/business card trick worked. It didn't on the passenger side. I was at a loss until Bob's suggestion, hence the WLG solution. If the felt stops working on the driver's side, I'm switching to the WLG. I don't notice the felt because its colored similar to the Cafe Latte interior plastic and you don't see that part of the trim with the door closed.
Well, it worked!!! :2:

Took the MO for a 30 mile drive yesterday (wife dragged me around shopping :O ), and I didn't hear a peep.

So that's two rattles I've fixed... But I'm now happy to say our MO is dead quiet now.

:D
 
#415 ·
Well, I'm a new Murano owner and definately new to the forum (yesterday) but, I have a couple of ideas on the door rattle problem. I've noticed that, in some cases, folks are curing the ticks by sliding a card or thin cardboard between the panel and the metal of the door. I had the same problem in cold weather in my Ford pickup and my Lebaron convertable. The plastic door panel, after about 3 months of ownership and the first time it got cold, began making a creaking and ticking sound on rough roads and on turns. I solved that problem by looking closely at every place the panel came in direct contact with the door metal. Once I ID'd those places I pried open those locations and put thin, double stick (white) foam tape between the panel and the door metal and trimmed off the excess. ALL the noises went away. 80K later on my truck and 50K later on the car I had to replace the foam tape because it finaly wore through and started ticking again. Sure solved the problem on those vehicles, might work for some of the MO's that have noise related to plastic/metal contact.

Larry :2:
 
#416 ·
NICE JOB LARRY ;) :D
 
#417 ·
WINDOW RATTLE

Well here we go again.... I talked with the service tec and showed him the tsp I printed out and he only replaced the both front doors window gaskets. Now the ticking noise is comming from the back windows. Next oil change I'll let them know then maybe I'll get all of the ticking noises out.......... Replacing the front gaskets took care of the ticking in the front.
 
#418 ·
Make sure you tell them "BOTH" back windows!!!! :D
 
#420 ·
Try using some single-side-adhesive black felt instead of the foam. Should not wear nearly a quickly. Foam isn't very resistant to friction. All automakers use felt tape between certain plastic parts for just this purpose. In the MO they seem to have forgotten...



lapriester said:
Well, I'm a new Murano owner and definately new to the forum (yesterday) but, I have a couple of ideas on the door rattle problem. I've noticed that, in some cases, folks are curing the ticks by sliding a card or thin cardboard between the panel and the metal of the door. I had the same problem in cold weather in my Ford pickup and my Lebaron convertable. The plastic door panel, after about 3 months of ownership and the first time it got cold, began making a creaking and ticking sound on rough roads and on turns. I solved that problem by looking closely at every place the panel came in direct contact with the door metal. Once I ID'd those places I pried open those locations and put thin, double stick (white) foam tape between the panel and the door metal and trimmed off the excess. ALL the noises went away. 80K later on my truck and 50K later on the car I had to replace the foam tape because it finaly wore through and started ticking again. Sure solved the problem on those vehicles, might work for some of the MO's that have noise related to plastic/metal contact.

Larry :2:
 
#421 ·
Well they accidentally ordered the Drive side door panel instead of the the Passenger side, hopefully this week. According to my service manager part of the original fix was to put foam in the door. I am not sure if they did it or not, but it didn't fix the problem. I guess part of the new fix is the door panels with the foam pads already added, which is what the new driver's side has. I never thought the driver's side made as much noise as the passenger so I guess I can only wait to see if this new design has a noticable difference on the passenger side.
 
#422 ·
What a pain, I hope they are at least giving you some free "Oil Change" Coupons at least for all your time they are waisting. I would at least ask. :)
 
#423 ·
ADV said:
Try using some single-side-adhesive black felt instead of the foam. Should not wear nearly a quickly. Foam isn't very resistant to friction. All automakers use felt tape between certain plastic parts for just this purpose. In the MO they seem to have forgotten...



I used about a 6" long 1 1/2" wide piece of velcro (loop side) and slid it between the door panel and the door (beginning where the business card is pictured). I did not remove the plastic backing as I did not want it to stick and with it still on it made it easier to insert. My door is now tick free. The idea is to seperate more of the door panel from the door than just the cornor. I think the spray lube trick does the same thing but I feel that will only be a tempy fix.
 
#424 ·
Hmmm, good idea with the velcro. I'll might try that next time with my other vehicles. Just a thought....when you use the double stick foam it keeps the panel from moving thus the wear is very slow. I would think the velcro would wear faster since it doesn't prevent movement it just insulates the noise caused from the movement.

Just my $.02.

Knock on wood....no ticks or creaks yet in 1400 miles. I did notice though, when the driver seat is lowered all the way it creaks. Raising it just above the bottom (one small bump on the switch) and no more creak. Problem solved.

:2:
 
#425 ·
Another thought. I noticed that folks are putting lube in those trouble spots. BEWARE!!! It might be fine in the Winter, but once things dry out and that lube starts collecting dust I'll guarantee you that those noises will come back with a vengence. It has been my personal experience that any type of lube placed in a contact surface where dust can be collected just make matters worse over time.

What you'll find is that it will be fine for a long time the first time it's applied. Then, pretty soon, you'll have to lube it again. That won't last as long and you'll do it again. Bottom line.....the period of effectiveness will become shorter and shorter until you have to add lube once or twice a week or go nuts. Once it gets to that point you're basically screwed because there is so much lube there you can't clean it all off and it just becomes a dust collector and an unsolvable noise.

The dealers will spray lube, silicone or any thing else that's a quick fix in the hope you'll just go away or give up. All of them do it and often the TSB will suggests it. They're usually not smart enough or willing enough to find a real solution.

:2:
 
#426 ·
Seems like a lot of folks believe that plastic-to-plastic or plastic-to-metal chafing is the problem and that lubrication is the answer.

I'm with lapriester in the belief that oils should be kept away from areas where you don't want to attract dirt.

How's about this: talc.

I have used it between the leather seats of the Town Ride to stop the squeaking when the leather panels rub. No muss. No fuss.

And it don't smell too bad, either.