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We came home from the football game the other nite- raining, 45 degrees, and 3 people in the car (a little wet- but not bad). The front windshield would not clear and by the time we got home (15 minute drive) it was only 1/2 defrosted -- plus the rear window was also only 1/2 defrosted. I have owned a ton of cars in 40 years of driving and have never encountered this problem. My wife (she is primary driver) said she has noticed this on several occasions.

'05 SE

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It is possible something is blocking the airflow across the cabin filter element. Perhaps leaves or dirt have clogged it causing this to occur. I know I had a similar situation, where the windows kept fogging and a new filter solved that problem. No fog at all since...
 
Did you turn the A/C off? It's needed even when not cooling the temperature in order to dry the air out and defrost the windows.
 
oregon2-

Was it frost on the outside of the glass or moisture on the inside of the glass?

-njjoe
 
I find the defogger on my MO works great, provided you turn up the heat a bit (over 65) and make sure the AC is on.
 
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Eric L. said:
I find the defogger on my MO works great, provided you turn up the heat a bit (over 65) and make sure the AC is on.
We turned the heat up as high as 80 ----with no improvement.

Checked tonite- turn on Defrost and yes, A/C comes on. Can feel air out all 4 vents on top of dash.
 
oregon2 said:


It was moisture on inside of glass- not cold enough (45 degrees) for frost.
Difficulty in removing moisture from the inside of the glass can be attributed to one of two things: 1) The HVAC is incorrectly set to RECIRCULATE, when it should be set to FRESH air; and/or 2) the A/C was not enabled.

Next time you encounter those conditions make sure the HVAC is set for FRESH air and the A/C light is illuminated.

That should do the trick.

-njjoe
 
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njjoe said:


Difficulty in removing moisture from the inside of the glass can be attributed to one of two things: 1) The HVAC is incorrectly set to RECIRCULATE, when it should be set to FRESH air; and/or 2) the A/C was not enabled.

Next time you encounter those conditions make sure the HVAC is set for FRESH air and the A/C light is illuminated.

That should do the trick.

-njjoe
Checked tonite- when I turned on front defrost-- A/C and FRESH air automatically come on (buttons light up).
 
Gonzo said:
With the AC on have fresh air or recirc air doesn't really matter. The big thing is that the AC was on.

I would make sure your AC is working... sounds like it is not.
I agree. My window starts to clear immediately with the defog on. It does sound like the AC isn't working right above.
 
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Gonzo said:
With the AC on have fresh air or recirc air doesn't really matter. The big thing is that the AC was on.

I would make sure your AC is working... sounds like it is not.
Checked operation - turn on front defrost - A/C compressor and electric fan come on for 5 seconds - then shuts off for 15 seconds- and continues to repeat this cycle. Is that NORMAL ??
 
oregon2 said:


Checked operation - turn on front defrost - A/C compressor and electric fan come on for 5 seconds - then shuts off for 15 seconds- and continues to repeat this cycle. Is that NORMAL ??
That doesn't sound normal - it should be on continuously when the defog is on.
 
oregon2 said:


Would you mind if you get a chance to check yours and see if it does this same 5 sec on -15 sec off routine ?? Then we would know for sure if this is the problem.

thanks
Ok I'll listen tomorrow. Its been raining lately so I've had defog on continuously.
 
oregon2 said:


Checked operation - turn on front defrost - A/C compressor and electric fan come on for 5 seconds - then shuts off for 15 seconds- and continues to repeat this cycle. Is that NORMAL ??
O2-

Yes, that is normal. The A/C compressor will cycle to maintain a maximum temperature in the evaporator core. If it was to run continuously you would risk freezing-up the evaporator coils.

-njjoe
 
Eric L. said:


That doesn't sound normal - it should be on continuously when the defog is on.
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No, it should not be on continuously.

Just because the compressor is not running does not mean that the A/C system is not cooling and dehumidifying the air. When the compressor cycles off there is still a cooling effect in the evaporator core because 1) the expansion valve continues to meter high-pressure liquid freon in to the lower-pressure core, and 2) the relatively cold evaporator acts as a heat sink and continues to absorb heat from the air.

-njjoe
 
I'll have to listen to mine more carefully, but honestly I've never heard the compressor cycling, only the second electric fan. If they both happen at the same time, then maybe the fan switch is louder than the AC clutch.
 
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Eric L. said:
I'll have to listen to mine more carefully, but honestly I've never heard the compressor cycling, only the second electric fan. If they both happen at the same time, then maybe the fan switch is louder than the AC clutch.
Just open the hood and it is real easy to observe (and hear) the compressor cluch engaging and disengaging .........and yes, the fan comes on at the same time.
 
If you have a cooking thermometer, stick it in the vents... see what you get for a reading. Depending on the outside airtemp it should be significantly cooler than outside.

If it is cooler (this time of year at least 20°F) then you have just **GOT** to stop making out in the car while driving. :p
 
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