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Discussion starter · #141 ·
Strange behavior with the window rattle today...

It was arguably the coldest day in Jersey so far. At 8:15 AM, the MO was reading 25 degrees outside. Frost was everywhere. It was DEFINITELY cold...

And the rattle was nonexistent! For almost my entire ride to work, in fact. It loosened up towards the end, but for a good bit of my commute the rattle was quiet. I guess it was so cold, something froze up inside there and didn't move around to cause a rattle :p

And with my attention drifting to other noises in the MO, I noticed a rattle from the passenger side of the vehicle... it sounds like it is coming from the vent or speaker on the dash. It happened at every bump or so. After the vehicle warmed up, it stopped... and the window rattle came back! Figures.

For those of you who have had the latest TSB applied to your Murano: How did your dealership handle it? Mine is big on "proving the problem exists" ... did your dealership just apply the TSB by taking your word for it, or were they sticklers about reproducing the noise?

I imagine they'd just DO it, considering it is an applicable TSB and the only "part" used is "shop supply" grease, but I'm fearing that the rattle won't happen when the MO is taken on their ultra-short test drive...
 
17 here in Connecticut this morning and yea, now that you mention it. It does seem like there was less window noise.
 
dmako said:
17 here in Connecticut this morning and yea, now that you mention it. It does seem like there was less window noise.
this is bad news, IMO


it only makes the diagnosis and reporduction more dificult to obtain......

try pulling the armrest on the doorskin, or, gently leaning on the top of the doorsill while the door is open (twists the doorfame ever-so-slightly)
 
Doombringer said:
Strange behavior with the window rattle today...

It was arguably the coldest day in Jersey so far. At 8:15 AM, the MO was reading 25 degrees outside. Frost was everywhere. It was DEFINITELY cold...

And the rattle was nonexistent! For almost my entire ride to work, in fact. It loosened up towards the end, but for a good bit of my commute the rattle was quiet. I guess it was so cold, something froze up inside there and didn't move around to cause a rattle :p

And with my attention drifting to other noises in the MO, I noticed a rattle from the passenger side of the vehicle... it sounds like it is coming from the vent or speaker on the dash. It happened at every bump or so. After the vehicle warmed up, it stopped... and the window rattle came back! Figures.

For those of you who have had the latest TSB applied to your Murano: How did your dealership handle it? Mine is big on "proving the problem exists" ... did your dealership just apply the TSB by taking your word for it, or were they sticklers about reproducing the noise?

I imagine they'd just DO it, considering it is an applicable TSB and the only "part" used is "shop supply" grease, but I'm fearing that the rattle won't happen when the MO is taken on their ultra-short test drive...

I've had both TSBs applied, both times they first had to "reproduce" the problem...no problem there!! The latest TSB was applied on 11/28...since then...2 straight days of no ticking...now I can hear it only very, very slightly from time to time...not always. The second TSB wasn't a "total" cure, but there was (so far) a definite improvement. I would say that for me it was 80% cured (so far). The noise went from the "totally unacceptable" category to the "I'm deciding if it's tolerable" category. The rattle in the cargo area however, returned the very next day (this is without the cargo cover attached). They say that they "tightened down a few things back there", which cured it for one day..(.they seem so secretive about what they actually do). When I gave my SM an update on the noises he said "yeah, that's going to be a tough one" (cargo noise)....he didn't say why...just told me to bring it back in.


On another note, I learned from a custom audio shop next door to my dealer that one of his customers got an even swap from a 2003 MO to a 2004 MO because of the satellite radio issue....he complained so much that THEY GAVE HIM AN EVEN SWAP WITH A NEW '04!! NOW THAT'S SERVICE!!!
(They worked it like an even swap trade-in...I think he only had his '03 for a couple of days though.)

(Hey....now everyone don't go out an ask for a swap for their '03 because it will raise a red flag to NNA and they'll put a stop to it....wait until I swap mine because of these damned rattles first!!) :)

:D
 
Discussion starter · #145 ·
I'm dropping the vehicle off the night before and, when I do this, I normally include a sheet of instructions and info telling about the problem, when I get it, when I don't, etc. I've made mention that the rattle is primarily on the driver's side (I don't hear it much on the passenger, but I'm not right against that window either) and that it doesn't always happens.

I'm confident (hopeful) they'll hear it. There are tons of crappy bumpy roads by the dealership so all they need to do is drive on one of those.

The saga continues.
 
window/panel noise

My Murano also has the window tapping noise. The mechanic removed the door panel and applied some foam tape to the top section of the window sill. He noted that a section of weather stripping was not properly attached and ordered new door panels. When the panels were delivered, I saw that one was different from the other. There are additional foam padding and supports under the window sill section. The mechanic installed the modified one and reordered the other one. The modified panel WORKS! No noise even when it’s cold.
I hope to have a digital camera to record the difference of the replacement panel when it comes in.

Larry
 
Window rattle

I tried the following.
I took 2 1" thick foam strips.
I placed it along the top of the door and down the side.
It seemed to have stopped the ticking sound about 95%.
It still rattles when I hit a bump.
With this DS window quiet, I now can hear will loud and clear the passenger side window snaps etc. What a mess.
I know this doesn't provide a cure, but maybe can lead to one.
 
Re: Window rattle

I agree.

It seems the rubber molding on the car is hollow and the rubber is very tacky which prodcues noise. If it were solid... hmmm.

trumpet said:
Here's another thing I found out.
If you press down on the molding around the window frame. ( on the car) It makes a snappy noise. It feels like the inside of the molding is sticky, press in and it snaps.
 
Over the last few days the mercury dipped to -20c and guess what the window rattle dissappears until the interior warms up but a pillar rattle became a factor.

Had the MO at the dealer for the second TSB on the window rattle apparently there was a Canadain TSB that came out about a month after the US version.

I was pretty quiet on the way home we will see how it does over time.
 
Discussion starter · #153 ·
An update. The MO went in for the rattle today. They could not work on it, though, because they do not have the grease specified in the TSB.

Go figure.

So it's going in again next Friday for the TSB fix. Let's hope it fixes it!
 
Try this:

It dawned on me that the ticking sound may be an "audio" illusion...and in fact may be coming from the rear windows and only sounds like its the front (or the bpillar).

So, as I was cleaning my windows the other day I made a very odd discovery with the rear windows (at least on my MO)....try this...roll the rear windows down enough to get your hand in there to "grab" the window (almost half-way actually)....with very little effort, I can actually shake my windows back and forth like there is nothing holding them secure!! It almost feels like I could actually pull the window out of the door if I pulled hard enough! The driver's side rear window is worse than the passenger side....I can't believe that the build quality with the windows/doors is this poor!! Incredible! I don't know if this the cause of the ticking that I still hear but it is certainly a problem nevertheless.

I'll be taking the MO in for the 3rd time on Monday for various rattle fixes (cargo rattle is very annoying).
 
Discussion starter · #155 ·
Eek.

Sounds scary. I had the same thought the other day... I was wondering just how the whole window system works and what is keeping the window in place. I've never tried holding the window while rolling it down, or pulling it up while it is partially rolled down...

Odd that I never wondered about this with my other cars. Hmm.
 
Doombringer said:
Eek.

Sounds scary. I had the same thought the other day... I was wondering just how the whole window system works and what is keeping the window in place. I've never tried holding the window while rolling it down, or pulling it up while it is partially rolled down...

Odd that I never wondered about this with my other cars. Hmm.

Yeah, I couldn't believe it! I can grab one side of the window and "gently" lift up and it comes up and the other side dips down....that is piss poor design if Nissan "meant" to do that! My dealership has been great so far but if they try to tell me that this is "normal" .....well....they may have to call the cops to get me out of there!!
 
We don't need no steenkin TSB!

The dealer called a couple of days ago and told me that "the window rails" to fix the rattle were in. I had told them earlier to just forget about it since it seems nobody can fix it.
But they ordered the rails anyway, so I set up the appointment.
I told the SM and the service super that if they can fix the rattle, they'll be heros. Also told them about the threads here and elsewhere.

Time to fix: About 40 minutes.
What got fixed: the weatherstripping around the window itself (except for the strip at the bottom).
Reason for fixing it: SM says this is a common problem, there seems to be slack around the window, and that the replacement parts are thicker than the originals and should hold the window more tightly.

After all was said and done, I asked the service super for the TSB number. He said "We didn't use a TSB. The SM said the windows rattle and the new weatherstripping should hold them tighter."

First rattle-producing bumps: Rattle!

DANG IT!

Think I'll have the boss lady ride in back while I go over a stretch that has proven to produce the rattle and see if she hears anything from the rear windows.
 
Ok...Just had 3rd TSB done for the window rattle...new TSB that calls for foam padding to placed/wrapped in various areas in door....once again....better....but....hit some significant bumps...and well you know. I ask them why they continue to think that its something inside the door when the sound clearly sounds like its coming from around the bpillar area where the pillar meets the roof...."we don't why it sound like its coming from there". Oh well...in VA we have a 3 strikes lemon law....after 3 attempts to fix the same problem (any problem)...you can enact the lemon law(total refund or swap for a new vehicle). Although things sound MUCH better....I'm still considering my options.
 
dalascby said:
Ok...Just had 3rd TSB done for the window rattle...new TSB that calls for foam padding to placed/wrapped in various areas in door....once again....better....but....hit some significant bumps...and well you know. I ask them why they continue to think that its something inside the door when the sound clearly sounds like its coming from around the bpillar area where the pillar meets the roof...."we don't why it sound like its coming from there". Oh well...in VA we have a 3 strikes lemon law....after 3 attempts to fix the same problem (any problem)...you can enact the lemon law(total refund or swap for a new vehicle). Although things sound MUCH better....I'm still considering my options.


i know i tried foaming/wrapping all the pull cables and such.......

i agree... its a tolerance issue.... 'b' pillar seems like the culprit

heres hoping!

SMS


ps- id like to see the inner of those w/o the rattle!! (is there a visible difference?)
 
Discussion starter · #160 ·
Would be interesting to see the 3rd TSB...

I think the window rattle and the b-pillar rattle are not related. At least not in all cases. I have a very soft rattle in my b-pillar that I can only hear when going over gravel.

Meanwhile, the window rattle is more of a sharper tick/tap and not nearly as subdued. Hmm.

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