2009 Murano - It's official!
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The media releases are all saying it will be released to dealers in January 2008.
I'm wondering when they will announce the pricing?
I was going to get a 2007 Murano SL loaded at a great price earlier this summer, but the allure of the 2009 was too great. I mostly like what I see all around and now just worry that its going to be $5k more than what I was going to jump into the 07 for.
I also find it interesting that a lot of the longtime posters (from WAY back in 2003) all seem to be fairly critical of the Murano in general and don't care for the redesign. Interesting...I question the animosity.
I'm wondering when they will announce the pricing?
I was going to get a 2007 Murano SL loaded at a great price earlier this summer, but the allure of the 2009 was too great. I mostly like what I see all around and now just worry that its going to be $5k more than what I was going to jump into the 07 for.
I also find it interesting that a lot of the longtime posters (from WAY back in 2003) all seem to be fairly critical of the Murano in general and don't care for the redesign. Interesting...I question the animosity.
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I think he's referring to the fact that several people have been talking about how they love their MO's (or people that have had them for a long time) and are saying that they aren't interested in another one due to:hfelknor said:
A) High price of CVT repairs out of warranty
B) Crappy customer service (swearing off all Nissans)
C) Now the MO is not "special" since it looks like Toyota
Well I would hope not.Corin said:
The first two have nothing to do with the 2009 Murano and have been a theme around here when the new Murano wasn't even a gleam in his dadddy's eye.
As to the third......
Here is what Webster says about animosity:
": ill will or resentment tending toward active hostility : an antagonistic attitude"
I haven't heard even a hint of hostility.
I would hope, but may be wrong whenI say, that I would hope that this board is not going toward a model that leaves no room for dissent on matters of opinion.
And people better get used to it.
As VinceBurlap says over at Hollywood Extra:
"Not as original as the 1st one. But much more upscale. which might not actually be for everyone.
Inside, it now feels and looks like a full on luxury car.
It is still modern but the focus is now on luxury.
The front is pretty busy........"
So if people think the criticism here is too intense (I truthfully don't see it) I would advise them to put some fresh talc down their diapers and ignore it.
The 2009 Murano will absolutely NOT bring forth the type of hard comments that the original did.
That original grill separated the men from the boys in 2003.
The motorcycle instrument panel? Some folks dropped by to tell us how much they hated it! The 03 was a love it or hate it......and sometimes both simultaneously.Homer
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When I first saw a MO in early 2003 I was amazed. I had no idea what it was. It looked different from everything else on the road. A few months later I was able peak inside a MO and was again impressed with the unique instrument "pod" and "hanging" center console. And then when I heard it had a CVT I was in love. The MO was unique in so many ways.
This 2009 MO lost much of that uniqueness; partly because others have borrowed styling cues from it, and partly because Nissan compromised many of the original styling features.
Don't get me wrong. I think Nissan has done a good by adding many of the new features. However, I feel they compromised the MO's exterior and interior by making changes just for sake of change.
I guess that's progress.
-njjoe
This 2009 MO lost much of that uniqueness; partly because others have borrowed styling cues from it, and partly because Nissan compromised many of the original styling features.
Don't get me wrong. I think Nissan has done a good by adding many of the new features. However, I feel they compromised the MO's exterior and interior by making changes just for sake of change.
I guess that's progress.
-njjoe
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Looking at the '09 picture, I discovered yesterday that I am very happy to have the last year's original and I will look forward to see what Nissan can do in 2013 with the third generation. I like some of the styling but I prefered the previous grill. I also dislike the old Santa Fe hood lines and the bulgeoning tail lights. The interior is Ok but I think that the steering looked sportier and had richer quality leather before. And since I installed most of the gadgets that I needed in the optional equipment list including Bluetooth, iPod, etc.., I have no urgent need to change. My only small regret is the panoramic roof (actually copied on the Ford Edge) but I see no real interest in the push button ignition and although the powered liftgate would have been a nifty item in the parking lot, I can easily live without.
The big differances I see are:
Around the wheel wells -- why give the large flat transition thingies? (can you say Edge) I liked the previous Mo's smooth curves. I can see extending the rear wells out more (kinda Carrera'ish) and matching the tire locations to it (widen the stance). But the flat arches? Strange.
The hood line is improved, but, at the expense of the pulled up tiny grill -- the Ford Edge has the grill right but the angle could be laid back more -- it's to vertical which makes the front end bulbus. Yes, improve the hood line, no, do not merely pull the grill up to it.
The tail lights.... what tha... it was a trade mark of the Z and the Mo to have those swoopy inlaid tail lights. Now they protrude?
Around the wheel wells -- why give the large flat transition thingies? (can you say Edge) I liked the previous Mo's smooth curves. I can see extending the rear wells out more (kinda Carrera'ish) and matching the tire locations to it (widen the stance). But the flat arches? Strange.
The hood line is improved, but, at the expense of the pulled up tiny grill -- the Ford Edge has the grill right but the angle could be laid back more -- it's to vertical which makes the front end bulbus. Yes, improve the hood line, no, do not merely pull the grill up to it.
The tail lights.... what tha... it was a trade mark of the Z and the Mo to have those swoopy inlaid tail lights. Now they protrude?
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It's as I expected. The new MO will be based on the Altima "D" platform. I also see a bump up to 265 hp which is in line with what they threw in the new 3.5 liter V6 Altima engines ( I think they are listed at 270 hp).
Wonder how much more the new models will cost? Looks like all Muranos come standard with Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC) with a Traction Control System (TCS) for all-weather confidence.
Looking at the pictures of the front and rear end it seems to me the Murano is searching for a new identity. It can't decide if it wants to look like a Lexus, a Hyundai Veracruz, or a bloated Rogue. I think it has become a "CrissCrossover Vehicle".
Wonder how much more the new models will cost? Looks like all Muranos come standard with Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC) with a Traction Control System (TCS) for all-weather confidence.
Looking at the pictures of the front and rear end it seems to me the Murano is searching for a new identity. It can't decide if it wants to look like a Lexus, a Hyundai Veracruz, or a bloated Rogue. I think it has become a "CrissCrossover Vehicle".
I suppose I should clarify my statement.hfelknor said:
I’ve been following this thread: http://www.nissanmurano.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9356&perpage=15&pagenumber=1 since the start when I came to this board as a “lurker” several months ago trying to gather info on the new 2009 model. The problem is, now that I reflect, is that there were a very small handful of posters that seemed to have sentiments that caused me to think there is a negative slant from the members here.
Going back almost 10 years, I have been a member of several online car message board communities, many of which I was the owner of several makes/models, some of which I had previous interactions with etc… I just typically don’t see such pessimism when discussing the manufacturer or the release of a new model. Just my perception. Animosity was probably too strong of a word.
Certainly I understand opinions are what they are and everyone is entitled to their own. I guess I just expected when I came to a “Murano” website that I would get a lot more enthusiasm.
It appears the following people and comments were what I was referring to:
Kris (9/6/07) - To be honest I do not care about Murano 2008, 2009 etc.
I think I am done with this car.
I am looking for something else.
In 8 months time.
I just hope Nissan is not going to screw up a nice car……
Kris (9/12/07) - For those who really enjoyed the original Murano and FX there are two option – stick to what they already have or move on…
- I may have given the comments by this "Kris" more weight since he is a moderator, but after reviewing the thread, it just appears he has had bad experiences with the CVT and Nissan Customer Service which might be influencing his statements.
njjoe (11/12/07) - My MO!! What happened to it?
GripperDon (11/14/07) - Fug Ugly!
I give more credibility on the car message boards to the long-time members and posters...this might be my problem. A lot of the newer people (and for the most part - the majority) are lauding the 2009 and its new features/styling etc...
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I think this is fairly significant. That means they've probably redesigned the transfer case. With luck it also means they strengthened it. It also means that the Murano should have less torque steer than it used to. Good news all around, if it's true.teonek said:
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To be fair, the mods are all normal people too entitled to their own opinion. Their "job" on the forum is not to wax about how great the car is, but rather, keep order if things get out of hand.
That said, I'm sure the new MO is an improvement, but it certainly isn't as segment busting as it was when the first model came out. Nissan chose a conservative route, which is fine, since that is what Toyota and Honda do as well and they are very successful. It just would have been more exciting if Nissan took a big chance with a much bolder design and an interior that looked like it was 10 years ahead of its time, instead of just contemporary. I was hoping the MO would be a contender for Motortrend's 2009 SUV of the Year but i just don't think it is significant enough to qualify. (This year's winner was the CX-9, which MT liked because it performs well and has market significance in that it essentially replaces the Mazda MPV).
That said, I'm sure the new MO is an improvement, but it certainly isn't as segment busting as it was when the first model came out. Nissan chose a conservative route, which is fine, since that is what Toyota and Honda do as well and they are very successful. It just would have been more exciting if Nissan took a big chance with a much bolder design and an interior that looked like it was 10 years ahead of its time, instead of just contemporary. I was hoping the MO would be a contender for Motortrend's 2009 SUV of the Year but i just don't think it is significant enough to qualify. (This year's winner was the CX-9, which MT liked because it performs well and has market significance in that it essentially replaces the Mazda MPV).
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Musky300,
It seems that you really took on my comments….I sometimes forget how much “weight” they have….
Seriously, I believe Nissan has done fantastic job with the original Murano. It was a trend setter no doubt. Similarly the FX. Why most of the members are not so excited about the new Murano? I think what set this discussion board apart from many others that we can discuss cars, Murano including, from a distance. We do not bash other cars just because they are not Murano’s. Yes, I have had terrible experience with Nissan service and Nissan corporate support. But not with CVT! The only problem I have with CVT is the repair price, which seems to be somewhere between $5 - $7k range. And this is not acceptable. These two things make me want something else. Oh, and I am a car guy, not an SUV, Truck or CUV guy…..though Murano has been good so far….
Now, my opinion about the new Murano. It will sell well. People wanted those features and more conservative look. And they got it.
It seems that you really took on my comments….I sometimes forget how much “weight” they have….
Seriously, I believe Nissan has done fantastic job with the original Murano. It was a trend setter no doubt. Similarly the FX. Why most of the members are not so excited about the new Murano? I think what set this discussion board apart from many others that we can discuss cars, Murano including, from a distance. We do not bash other cars just because they are not Murano’s. Yes, I have had terrible experience with Nissan service and Nissan corporate support. But not with CVT! The only problem I have with CVT is the repair price, which seems to be somewhere between $5 - $7k range. And this is not acceptable. These two things make me want something else. Oh, and I am a car guy, not an SUV, Truck or CUV guy…..though Murano has been good so far….
Now, my opinion about the new Murano. It will sell well. People wanted those features and more conservative look. And they got it.
Kris,
Speaking of weight....I'm pretty anxious to see what this new Mo will tip the scales at.
I'd read on the autoblog that a lot of the materials were lighter weight....factor this with a stronger engine (which already uses less gas in the Altima then the older model) and the CVT - I'm thinking there is a pretty decent fuel ecomoy story here......
Speaking of weight....I'm pretty anxious to see what this new Mo will tip the scales at.
I'd read on the autoblog that a lot of the materials were lighter weight....factor this with a stronger engine (which already uses less gas in the Altima then the older model) and the CVT - I'm thinking there is a pretty decent fuel ecomoy story here......
I agree that some of the responses to the new Murano have been kind of frigid. Although I'm a first time poster, I've been a fan of the Murano since its inception and I think the new 2009 model has exactly the kind of changes that it needs for an evolutionary design.Musky300 said:
I was an early Murano owner (bought a '03 in January of '03) but was never really happy with the look of the front/grill, while I thought the design of the rear was perfect. I think that the '09 model provides a nice compromise -- I like the design of the front, and the new rear design doesn't really bother me (if they kept the rear design from '03-07 and used it with the new front, it just wouldn't work).
As far as comparisons to the Santa Fe and others, I still think the look of the Murano (new and old) is far superior. Mazda, Audi, and Ford+Lincoln have all tried to copy the Murano's look with their CUVs, but none have come up with a design that is as pleasing as the Murano.
I think a trip to the local Nissan dealer in January will be in order for me...
-Arion
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