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DIY - Change your CVT Fluid

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Hi Guys, Please help. I have 2007 Murano with 100,000 miles. I am given two options. One to replace the CVT fluid and the second option is to flush the cvt fluid. Any suggestions.
If a dealer is telling you to do this based on the mileage and not after doing a CVT fluid analysis (or at least doing a physical check and explaining to you why the fluid needs to be changed, ie it's milky, dark in color, smells burned, etc), RUN, don't walk, to another dealer.

As Joe explained, there is NO change interval (either age or mileage) specified by Nissan.
 
My MO just passed the 95k mile mark a day or two ago. Since buying the MO back in late 2007 with about 44k miles on it, I've yet to change the CVT fluid. Should I be doing this now? If not, when? Thx.
As nitely pointed out, routinely checking for leaks and, even more importantly, CVT fluid level is the key. Unless the previous owner abused the car (always the risk with buying used cars, especially one with 44K miles on it before you got it), your CVT fluid should be fine at not even 100K. I know we hit 107K on our 8 1/2 year old Mo recently, and I never give changing the CVT fluid any thought at all!

You might, however (especially since you bought yours used), consider having a dealer do a CVT fluid deterioration date analysis to check the condition of the fluid. The numerical value this analysis produces will tell you concretely whether the fluid needs to be changed or not.
 
Again this issue hasn't been visited in a year and I'm fixing to be doing a drain and refill on my 09 MO AWD.
Why?? Did you get a high CVT fluid deterioration date number from the Consult analysis, or do you just suspect the previous owner of your car subjected it to severe driving conditions? Just wondering why you think it needs to be changed.

My 04 SE is almost twice as old as yours and (mostly because it only has 110K miles, I've never had CVT problems, and my fluid has never smelled burned when I've checked the level) I don't give a seconds thought to changing it. I also know how that car has been driven since I bought it new 10 years ago (in 4 more months)!
 
you answered my question. You know your car was either driven hard (or possibly abused) by a previous owner, and needed transmission work at only 70K. And since that same owner drove it for another 17K, it's quite likely the fluid indeed DOES need to be changed. Still, the deterioration date analysis would reveal the condition of the CVT fluid.

That said, preventive maintenance like early fluid changes are never a bad thing - other than to your wallet and providing the proper replacement fluids are used!
 
102K miles sounds too early to me to do a CVT fluid change (unless you are tracking or autocrossing your MO, towing with it, or the dealers CVT fluid deterioration date number came out very high). I'm at 113K miles on my 04 SE, and not even thinking about a CVT fluid change.
 
oh wow really?
the manual says to change at 30K and so does the dealer... so if the manual is wrong, then how often am I supposed to change the CVT fluid?
What manual are you using? The FSM for my 04 has NO frequency for CVT fluid changes. It specifies only a visual inspection (looking for a viscous, varnished state, milky, white or cloudy color, or metal powder) UNLESS you are subjecting your car to severe conditions - specifically towing a trailer, using a camper (wtf that IS!) or car top carrier, or driving on rough or muddy roads (I assumn off roading).

Under these severe conditions, the manual calls for a CVT fluid inspection (obviously by a dealer) using the CONSULT-II every 60K miles, and then changing the fluid if necessary - ie if the number produced by the analysis indicates excessive fluid wear. If the CONSULT-II isn't available, under severe conditions the manual calls for a fluid change (NOT just an inspection) every 60K miles. 30K changes are crazy (at least IMHO) even under severe driving conditions, and are merely a money maker for whatever dealer is telling you that.

Again, what manual are you using? Maybe the FSM has been revised since I got mine with my MO when I bought it new 10/04.
 
If you have a Gen 1 Murano, those dealers are giving you bad info. Then again, it's only money (yours going unnecessarily to a dealer!). So if it makes you sleep better, knock yourself out. Personally, I'd trust the FSM over on-line advice.
 
The way I read that manual (the little, abbreviated one you posted - still not as comprehensive as the FSM), Pg. 10 STILL says to change the CVT fluid at 60K only if subjecting your car to severe conditions. Then again, it IS a little vague so you know some dealers (and obviously the two, unfortunately, you have checked with) are going to manipulate that info to get as much of your $$ as they can.

Not all dealers are like that. Hard as it may be to believe, some actually care about their customers.
 
I think it might be helpful to see the wording in the Factory Service Manual.
Here it is, from Pg. MA-8 in the maintenance section of Vol. 4 of my 2004 FSM:

If towing a trailer, using a camper or car top carrier, or driving on rough or muddy roads, inspect CVT fluid deterioration with CONSULT-II every 60,000 miles (96,000 km), then change CVT fluid NS-2 if necessary. (refer to CVT-69, "Check CVT fluid deterioration date".) And if CONSULT-II is not available, change (not just inspect) CVT fluid NS-2 every 60,000 miles (96,000 km).

See, no mention of a 30K mile CVT fluid change, even for cars exposed to severe service. Any dealer suggesting that (or, worse yet, encouraging it) is scamming its customers.
 
Starting to give the CVT some attention - 63K miles - no tow, 5 min wife commuter, no leaks or issues. First have to figure out the trick to get the lock off the dip stick. Perfectly designed to snap plastic it seems.
Called the dealer to investigate the fluids etc. They wouldn't be concerned until 100K+. Their routine is no flush, just drain and replace with same temp fluid to avoid displacement variable.
They want some of the old fluid to remain. $25 per quart/litre here for Nissan brand. I expect it will be $400 bill for dealer service.
Dealer should do a CVT Deterioration Date analysis prior to doing any work on the CVT fluid. That analysis will tell you the condition of the fluid. At only 63K miles, it should be fine - especially if you aren't subjecting your car to any severe driving conditions.